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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:02 - Nov 20 with 1210 viewssaints__fan__73

It's SR's player judgement that is flawed not Rusty's.

We're paying £10m a pop for the big club's failed youngster's and the question is not so much if Charles, Edozie and Bazunu are PL level, more if they are even Championship level.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:18 - Nov 20 with 1170 viewsPatfromPoole

Shea Charles gets stuck in, but I saw more than enough of him last season to see that on the ball he is reminiscent of Carlton Palmer.

In the 1990's a player with abysmal ball control like Carlton Palmer could get away with it, but you get found out pretty quickly in these days if you can't pass the ball 5 yards to one of your colleagues.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:20 - Nov 20 with 1167 viewsdirk_doone

Anyway, we may not have to worry about him much longer as there are a lot of reports today that he's a January transfer target for Arsenal.

https://www.arsenalinsider.com/features/who-is-arsenal-transfer-target-shea-char

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday-star-linked-w

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/arsenal-transfer-news-in-shock-move-for-southam

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/arsenal-transfer-news-arteta-pursues-sh
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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:22 - Nov 20 with 1153 viewsPatfromPoole

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:20 - Nov 20 by dirk_doone

Anyway, we may not have to worry about him much longer as there are a lot of reports today that he's a January transfer target for Arsenal.

https://www.arsenalinsider.com/features/who-is-arsenal-transfer-target-shea-char

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday-star-linked-w

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/arsenal-transfer-news-in-shock-move-for-southam

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/arsenal-transfer-news-arteta-pursues-sh
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There is more chance of me having a threesome with Scarlett Johansson and Kylie, filmed by Liz Hurley, than of Shea Charles signing for Arsenal.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:37 - Nov 20 with 1098 viewssaintwizzler

Shea Charles has found his level. Championship.
Northern Ireland are a Championship level side.

Cornet has been mentioned and along with Ugochukwu have been disastrous signings.
As Nick says in the article we may of well kept Edozie.
We may as well of kept Charles too as Ugochukwu is no better.
Then the two loan spots could of been used for a more important position, Centre Forward.

Archer is useless playing with his back to goal.
A Centre Forward who can play that way and hold the ball up was required.
Something that Che Adams COULD do.

WE MARCH ON

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:06 - Nov 20 with 1064 viewsSaintNick

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:02 - Nov 20 by saints__fan__73

It's SR's player judgement that is flawed not Rusty's.

We're paying £10m a pop for the big club's failed youngster's and the question is not so much if Charles, Edozie and Bazunu are PL level, more if they are even Championship level.


Whilst the club has people in the recruitment department who identify potential targets, it is the manager who will have the final say, even SFC realise that there is no point in buying a player unless the manager is going to play him.

The point of the article was about Martin's ability to work with the squad that he has to hand, rather than whether he is good in the transfer market.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:22 - Nov 20 with 1050 viewsmushinexile

How much more proof do we need?
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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:43 - Nov 20 with 1026 viewsBLEEDRED

It seems that every player we have loaned out seems to be having good seasons. While every player we have brought in has gone to the dogs!!
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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:49 - Nov 20 with 1018 viewssaints__fan__73

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:20 - Nov 20 by dirk_doone

Anyway, we may not have to worry about him much longer as there are a lot of reports today that he's a January transfer target for Arsenal.

https://www.arsenalinsider.com/features/who-is-arsenal-transfer-target-shea-char

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday-star-linked-w

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/arsenal-transfer-news-in-shock-move-for-southam

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/arsenal-transfer-news-arteta-pursues-sh
[Post edited 20 Nov 10:26]



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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:52 - Nov 20 with 1016 viewssaints__fan__73

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:06 - Nov 20 by SaintNick

Whilst the club has people in the recruitment department who identify potential targets, it is the manager who will have the final say, even SFC realise that there is no point in buying a player unless the manager is going to play him.

The point of the article was about Martin's ability to work with the squad that he has to hand, rather than whether he is good in the transfer market.


Do you know that for a fact Nick? There are lots of instances in modern football where the manager does not have the final say. Why would they? The average life span of a manager at a club is less than 2 years and the club are buying these punts on a player trading model basis to hopefully sell in 2 years time.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 12:13 - Nov 20 with 979 viewsPatfromPoole

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:37 - Nov 20 by saintwizzler

Shea Charles has found his level. Championship.
Northern Ireland are a Championship level side.

Cornet has been mentioned and along with Ugochukwu have been disastrous signings.
As Nick says in the article we may of well kept Edozie.
We may as well of kept Charles too as Ugochukwu is no better.
Then the two loan spots could of been used for a more important position, Centre Forward.

Archer is useless playing with his back to goal.
A Centre Forward who can play that way and hold the ball up was required.
Something that Che Adams COULD do.

WE MARCH ON


Who knew there would come a time when we would lament not having Che Adams?

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:02 - Nov 20 with 932 viewsIfonly

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:52 - Nov 20 by saints__fan__73

Do you know that for a fact Nick? There are lots of instances in modern football where the manager does not have the final say. Why would they? The average life span of a manager at a club is less than 2 years and the club are buying these punts on a player trading model basis to hopefully sell in 2 years time.


I wouldn't say there are lots of instances where the manager wasn't consulted. There are some but all the evidence says that SR give the manager a big say in recruitment (e.g. Tall Paul is only here because Nathan Jones said he wanted that style of player).

When RM spoke in the summer about signings, it was obvious he was heavily involved, if not directing the operation. If you look at the individual signings too it is obvious - which other club would have prioritised signing Ryan Manning, or this summer Nathan Wood and Ryan Fraser? The evidence suggests that our signings reflected RM's priorities e.g. no centre forward.
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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:28 - Nov 20 with 911 viewssaints__fan__73

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:02 - Nov 20 by Ifonly

I wouldn't say there are lots of instances where the manager wasn't consulted. There are some but all the evidence says that SR give the manager a big say in recruitment (e.g. Tall Paul is only here because Nathan Jones said he wanted that style of player).

When RM spoke in the summer about signings, it was obvious he was heavily involved, if not directing the operation. If you look at the individual signings too it is obvious - which other club would have prioritised signing Ryan Manning, or this summer Nathan Wood and Ryan Fraser? The evidence suggests that our signings reflected RM's priorities e.g. no centre forward.


Russ would have a say on bit part players like the ones you mentioned but I would doubt he would have any say on players like the Man City kids who the club are buying solely as they (falsely) believed they could turn a profit on them.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:30 - Nov 20 with 900 viewsfranniesTache

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 10:22 - Nov 20 by PatfromPoole

There is more chance of me having a threesome with Scarlett Johansson and Kylie, filmed by Liz Hurley, than of Shea Charles signing for Arsenal.


Would Wints or Wiz still get to use the cuckold chair in that situation?
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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:40 - Nov 20 with 880 viewssaintwizzler

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 12:13 - Nov 20 by PatfromPoole

Who knew there would come a time when we would lament not having Che Adams?


Did a job in The Championship.
Found his level.
That’s why he plays for Scotland.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:51 - Nov 20 with 849 viewsTripleNiemi

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:40 - Nov 20 by saintwizzler

Did a job in The Championship.
Found his level.
That’s why he plays for Scotland.


Where’s the great ‘Redmondo’ these days; remember our Pep gushing over him too……….

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 14:01 - Nov 20 with 832 viewsGRIM

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 11:06 - Nov 20 by SaintNick

Whilst the club has people in the recruitment department who identify potential targets, it is the manager who will have the final say, even SFC realise that there is no point in buying a player unless the manager is going to play him.

The point of the article was about Martin's ability to work with the squad that he has to hand, rather than whether he is good in the transfer market.


Not sure I agree with your comment Nick.
If that was the case, Cornet + Taylor + Diaz would all be playing regularly.
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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 14:13 - Nov 20 with 815 viewsPatfromPoole

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 13:30 - Nov 20 by franniesTache

Would Wints or Wiz still get to use the cuckold chair in that situation?


Wiz would be pre-occupied with Ann Widdecombe and Wincey Willis.

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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 15:07 - Nov 20 with 769 viewssaintwizzler

Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 14:13 - Nov 20 by PatfromPoole

Wiz would be pre-occupied with Ann Widdecombe and Wincey Willis.


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Does Shea Charles Prove That Russell Martin's Player Judgement is Flawed on 03:27 - Nov 21 with 550 viewssaint22

Don’t just look at who he let go look at who he still picks regularly!!
The guy is a fraud
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