| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? 21:25 - Oct 23 with 3981 views | Southamptonfan |
Threads titled as astonishing and why is he still here?
Do people seriously think that the owners who appointed Jones and Selles, who bought a load of Man City reserves and Villa reserve players for PL failure, all to do it on the cheap, are going to spend tens of millions sacking a manager and then replacing him with a better manager (and if he's better he would want a lot more than RM wanted?). This is the same ownership team that could have appointed Dyche after Ralph, they could have appointed some decent managers instead of Jones and Selles. When is the penny going to drop, that the owners are the problem here?
If RM goes, these owners will koto attract a top manager to save us. The team isn't good enough for a start and a top manager would want money to spend on top.players. never going to happen under these owners. |  |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 21:35 - Oct 23 with 3362 views | 1885_SFC |
What I want to know is... why give RM a new contract when he still had 2 years to run on his existing one... and before a ball was even kicked in the Premier League?
SR have no idea what they're doing. |  |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 22:04 - Oct 23 with 3298 views | Southamptonfan |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 21:35 - Oct 23 by 1885_SFC |
What I want to know is... why give RM a new contract when he still had 2 years to run on his existing one... and before a ball was even kicked in the Premier League?
SR have no idea what they're doing. |
Exactly. It's all about money. But that's all SR are about. They aren't ambitious. They don't care about the entertainment on the pitch for the fans. Demand the sacking of RM if we like, but we would still be stuck with the same unambitious owners, who.would just appoint the next cheapest possible manager.
Round and round in circles. [Post edited 23 Oct 22:09]
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 07:42 - Oct 24 with 3085 views | kernow |
It’s not that they haven’t spent any money . They’ve squandered millions on poor decisions regarding recruitment of directors, coaches and players.
The business model is fatally flawed and the current set up is accelerating that fatality. | | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 08:21 - Oct 24 with 3050 views | GRIM |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 22:04 - Oct 23 by Southamptonfan |
Exactly. It's all about money. But that's all SR are about. They aren't ambitious. They don't care about the entertainment on the pitch for the fans. Demand the sacking of RM if we like, but we would still be stuck with the same unambitious owners, who.would just appoint the next cheapest possible manager.
Round and round in circles. [Post edited 23 Oct 22:09]
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I've said this before, as long as SR have control it's not about winning football matches, it's all about making money.
Hence their insistence on buying young players in an attempt to sell them on for a profit.
But this only works if you improve those players by giving them game time in the Premier Lge.
Very short sighted policy in football because unless you win enough games in any lge you get relegated into a lower lge.
We're not a cash rich club & cannot compete with the big 6 clubs financially.
But nor are Fulham + Brighton + Brentford + Bournemouth but they all manage to survive in top lge.
Why - Because they purchase the right players at the right price.
Then put a decent Manager / Coach in place to prepare the players & devise a system of playing that suits the players.
Unlike RM who insists on asking players to stick to his ridiculous suicidal style of play.
All players at any level need to be comfortable in the position they play & understand their role in the team.
We have to many square pegs in round holes that includes the Owners & the Manager. | | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 08:53 - Oct 24 with 3005 views | saintwizzler |
Since Sports Republic took over.
Premier League games.
Played 65
Won 11
Draw 12
Lost 42 |  |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 09:06 - Oct 24 with 2977 views | TripleNiemi |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 21:35 - Oct 23 by 1885_SFC |
What I want to know is... why give RM a new contract when he still had 2 years to run on his existing one... and before a ball was even kicked in the Premier League?
SR have no idea what they're doing. |
One of the most bonkers things they have done (and didn’t need to). |  |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 09:32 - Oct 24 with 2960 views | mushinexile |
Oh, but they did. It would have been cheaper than a performance bonus. money to be spent in two years time which would have to be spent anyway. Crafty buggers. | | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 09:32 - Oct 24 with 2958 views | GRIM |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 08:53 - Oct 24 by saintwizzler |
Since Sports Republic took over.
Premier League games.
Played 65
Won 11
Draw 12
Lost 42 |
Useful stats.
I actually didn't realise it was soooo Bad. | | | |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 10:17 - Oct 24 with 2906 views | MytchettSaint |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 08:53 - Oct 24 by saintwizzler |
Since Sports Republic took over.
Premier League games.
Played 65
Won 11
Draw 12
Lost 42 |
How on earth did we manage to win 11 games!! |  |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 10:40 - Oct 24 with 2870 views | dirk_doone |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 10:17 - Oct 24 by MytchettSaint |
How on earth did we manage to win 11 games!! |
It was in the early days before they'd had a chance to influence anything. We were a mid-table Premier League team back then. Of course, once they got to work, things deteriorated badly.
They took over an established top flight team on a good run in January, 2022. It's hard to believe now that we were getting results like this:
26 December 2021 West Ham United 2–3 Southampton
28 December 2021 Southampton 1–1 Tottenham Hotspur
11 January 2022 Southampton 4–1 Brentford
15 January 2022 Wolverhampton Wanderers 3–1 Southampton
22 January 2022 Southampton 1–1 Manchester City
9 February 2022 Tottenham Hotspur 2–3 Southampton
12 February 2022 Manchester United 1–1 Southampton
19 February 2022 Southampton 2–0 Everton
25 February 2022 Southampton 2–0 Norwich City [Post edited 24 Oct 10:42]
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 10:49 - Oct 24 with 2844 views | GRIM |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 10:40 - Oct 24 by dirk_doone |
It was in the early days before they'd had a chance to influence anything. We were a mid-table Premier League team back then. Of course, once they got to work, things deteriorated badly.
They took over an established top flight team on a good run in January, 2022. It's hard to believe now that we were getting results like this:
26 December 2021 West Ham United 2–3 Southampton
28 December 2021 Southampton 1–1 Tottenham Hotspur
11 January 2022 Southampton 4–1 Brentford
15 January 2022 Wolverhampton Wanderers 3–1 Southampton
22 January 2022 Southampton 1–1 Manchester City
9 February 2022 Tottenham Hotspur 2–3 Southampton
12 February 2022 Manchester United 1–1 Southampton
19 February 2022 Southampton 2–0 Everton
25 February 2022 Southampton 2–0 Norwich City [Post edited 24 Oct 10:42]
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Thanks Dirk for highlighting the demise of our club since SR took over.
I think we'd all forgotten the good times in the Premier league.
It's going to be a while before we achieve such good results in the Premier lge, at least we enjoyed winning many games last season in Championship.
But as enjoyable as last season was in the way of results, we really want to consolidate in the Premier lge. | | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 10:51 - Oct 24 with 2837 views | saintwizzler |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 10:40 - Oct 24 by dirk_doone |
It was in the early days before they'd had a chance to influence anything. We were a mid-table Premier League team back then. Of course, once they got to work, things deteriorated badly.
They took over an established top flight team on a good run in January, 2022. It's hard to believe now that we were getting results like this:
26 December 2021 West Ham United 2–3 Southampton
28 December 2021 Southampton 1–1 Tottenham Hotspur
11 January 2022 Southampton 4–1 Brentford
15 January 2022 Wolverhampton Wanderers 3–1 Southampton
22 January 2022 Southampton 1–1 Manchester City
9 February 2022 Tottenham Hotspur 2–3 Southampton
12 February 2022 Manchester United 1–1 Southampton
19 February 2022 Southampton 2–0 Everton
25 February 2022 Southampton 2–0 Norwich City [Post edited 24 Oct 10:42]
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2nd March 22 we beat WHU in the FA Cup and then Villa away the following weekend.
It all went to shit from there. | |
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It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 11:27 - Oct 24 with 2775 views | saintwizzler |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 11:20 - Oct 24 by MytchettSaint |
I remember walking out after that Norwich game thinking we’d challenge for a European spot. Then we went on that run where we managed to beat Arsenal to guarantee survival 
Sports Republic have been poor custodians of our club overall. I know some people will point to last seasons record run but they are going to match that with one even worse this season. |
There’s no getting away from the fact that they bought us as a mid table/bottom half PL club and we are now a top six Championship level club.
Is that their fault? | |
| We thought that we had the answers,
It was the questions we had wrong. |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 11:37 - Oct 24 with 2753 views | MytchettSaint |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 11:27 - Oct 24 by saintwizzler |
There’s no getting away from the fact that they bought us as a mid table/bottom half PL club and we are now a top six Championship level club.
Is that their fault? |
I’d say so, yes. They’ve been at the helm long enough to effect change. It’s just not been done for any perceivable benefit when you look at the before and now comparison you put up. | |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 11:41 - Oct 24 with 2739 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
But we were told by the previous regime that this was the best lot to take the club forwards? ........ ;) |  |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 11:53 - Oct 24 with 2722 views | PatfromPoole |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 07:42 - Oct 24 by kernow |
It’s not that they haven’t spent any money . They’ve squandered millions on poor decisions regarding recruitment of directors, coaches and players.
The business model is fatally flawed and the current set up is accelerating that fatality. |
The diagnosis in a nutshell. |  |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 12:46 - Oct 24 with 2669 views | Joiedevivre |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 11:53 - Oct 24 by PatfromPoole |
The diagnosis in a nutshell. |
I have a theory that we a club which needs active scrutinising measures on every player we sign, regardless of the price. We had this under Gao, though in terrible circumstances money wise. It’s this lack of scrutiny, with our new found wealth, which has caught us out and created a system of lacklustre recruitment.
Though having said there are many flaws in my argument. Fernandez, THB, and to a certain extent Downes have been good signings recently. But the flunking of money on Onuachu and Sulemana for example shows this in action. More money than sense. |  | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 14:28 - Oct 24 with 2580 views | saint22 |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 12:46 - Oct 24 by Joiedevivre |
I have a theory that we a club which needs active scrutinising measures on every player we sign, regardless of the price. We had this under Gao, though in terrible circumstances money wise. It’s this lack of scrutiny, with our new found wealth, which has caught us out and created a system of lacklustre recruitment.
Though having said there are many flaws in my argument. Fernandez, THB, and to a certain extent Downes have been good signings recently. But the flunking of money on Onuachu and Sulemana for example shows this in action. More money than sense. |
Cornet too!! That was astonishingly bad
It’s true they are running us into the ground and extended Martins contract was insanity, he just have bitten their hand off and to an extent now why should he change he holds all the cards knowing this.
Ludicrous. How come we seem to endlessly attract back owners who are clueless about football!?
We will be an embarrassment come May I am afraid | | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 14:33 - Oct 24 with 2528 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 14:28 - Oct 24 by saint22 |
Cornet too!! That was astonishingly bad
It’s true they are running us into the ground and extended Martins contract was insanity, he just have bitten their hand off and to an extent now why should he change he holds all the cards knowing this.
Ludicrous. How come we seem to endlessly attract back owners who are clueless about football!?
We will be an embarrassment come May I am afraid |
Ok, he's got a job guarantee for the next couple of years, but what will that do for his Cv? He's still a young manager that I would have thought would want to do his best and show future employees of his management skills. No ambitious club would take him on |  | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 14:33 - Oct 24 with 2527 views | TripleNiemi |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 14:28 - Oct 24 by saint22 |
Cornet too!! That was astonishingly bad
It’s true they are running us into the ground and extended Martins contract was insanity, he just have bitten their hand off and to an extent now why should he change he holds all the cards knowing this.
Ludicrous. How come we seem to endlessly attract back owners who are clueless about football!?
We will be an embarrassment come May I am afraid |
Still, we do have a club to follow and are not in the position of Inverness and will never be as embarrassing to support as Pompey
#TryingToGraspSomePositives [Post edited 24 Oct 14:34]
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 14:37 - Oct 24 with 2505 views | I_would |
At least everyone now knows for sure that the whole operation is geared around mid table Championship after the latest public backing for the hapless manager. It must have had them quaking in their boots when RM accidentally won at Wembley.
I thought we'd be mathematically down by xmas when the window closed, but we're down already, but SR are saving cash and RM is racking up possession stats. Great. | |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 14:58 - Oct 24 with 2475 views | 1885_SFC |
It's almost as if Saints were going to take the PL by storm this season - winning game after game under RM's possession-based, thrilling, exciting football... possibly top 6 by the end of October... and thus, SR were scared sh1tless that their main man was going to be poached around Christmas by an underperforming giant (Man United) - so we'd better extend his contract, just in case.
It's laughable really, but you have to admire SR's (blind) faith for the fella. RM has conned them well and truly! | |
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| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 16:31 - Oct 24 with 2409 views | Ifonly |
Yes I can see that the owners are disastrous, but I can also see that RM is disastrous too. He is a symptom of their mismanagement, 3 year contract and all. He is their man.
The position of the owners doesn't change the fact that RM needs to go. He is a dead end for SFC. We will never be successful in the PL when he is manager because we can't afford the players to play like Man City. And because he is a dead end, the sooner he goes the better. Anything else is just dragging out the agony. Replacing him with a random manager at least gives us a chance. We have no chance at all under RM. What's the worst that could happen? Relegation with record low points? That's what we're heading for anyway. | | | |
| Why? Why can't people see it's the owners who need removing? on 17:20 - Oct 24 with 2368 views | saint901 |
Stripped of hysteria, an owner can be removed only if they are willing to sell or they are persons thought not to fit and proper to run a football club.
Looking at owners of PL clubs,that "fit and proper" hurdle is clearly very low and anybody who isn't a belly crawling animal can get over it.
Why would they sell now? A season the PL enriches them regardless of results. The parachute payments shelter them.
Selling after the parachute runs out might be viable, but that is three and half seasons away.
Why bother buying out RM's contract? As you say, another manager would want more money anyway, so it's a double hit.
Does SR care if a small number of fans who can be bothered to post here are unhappy? Nah! We make up what, a thirtieth of a full ground.
No, we will continue to vent or unheeded fury to no purpose. | | | |
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