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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY 20:52 - Oct 20 with 8276 viewsModeratorC

In 1984 the Swans lost 6-1 at Hillsborough. The next game between the sides was in 2008. Since then the Owls have won just one game against the Swans, a 3-1 home win in 2019. Despite the overall record being poor, recent history states differently.




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The above stat (P19 etc) are games played at Hillsborough.

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/63179

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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 15:51 - Oct 23 with 723 viewsjack247

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 15:40 - Oct 23 by union_jack

I wasn’t criticising your post. A clumsy reply on my part.


I didn’t take it as criticism. It was a fair post.

You raised the point that not everything can be blamed on the owners and Williams needs to take his share when he gets things wrong.

While I think the owners are ultimately responsible for the state of the squad, I still think Williams has to be held accountable.

Richard has explained it to an extent and I can see where he is coming from, but I’m still not convinced Vipotnik should be burning himself out playing piggy in the middle. Concede a few yards if it means he’s sharper and has more energy when we’re attacking.

Or commit to a press and involve enough players to put pressure on opponents and force mistakes. Yes it’s a problem if they play through it, but we’re also far more likely to score that way than with slow build up against a set defence.
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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:13 - Oct 23 with 685 viewsswan65split

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 21:36 - Oct 22 by Yossarian

We could play till Saturday and we wouldn’t score. Midfield just doesn’t create anything. Strikers need chances. They all look terrified


This ....we could have Shearer, Haaland or even a giraffe up front, if our midfield or our winger dont supply them we wont score .

weve been here before and it didnt end well.
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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:23 - Oct 23 with 663 viewsonehunglow

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 14:33 - Oct 23 by union_jack

You are emphasising the point that it’s not just the owners who are responsible for our predicament but also the lack of coaching or tactical nous by our head coach. It’s the same thing every game, slow and toothless with no training ground plays or drills to be seen.


The owners,whilst they select dumbarse coaches ,are not responsible for this crap show
Sorry,they just ain’t
There was and is enough on that team to have slaughtered an incredible Owls outfit .The worse team we have played surely in years . Utterly shambolic ,utterly technically inept ,yet we still couldn’t score . And we will not until our coach improves the service to the poor bugger up front . I say singular as he doesn’t like playing two strikers .
We have Rinald,who initially looked the business but now he is regressing rapidly . He has pace ,can beat opponents yet his crossing is woeful.

What do they practise in training


The owners do not take training


It is down to Williams ,folks. Simple as that

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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:27 - Oct 23 with 659 viewsonehunglow

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 12:16 - Oct 23 by jack247

You said he was a ‘positive’ from last night. I’m not sure what you saw. Anyone with a decent level of fitness can run directly at the keeper or centre backs when they are playing it out. Not any footballer, anyone. He contributed nothing when we were in possession, which was most of the time.

Replace Grimes with an average championship midfielder and you won’t see much difference. Replace Vipotnik with an average championship striker and you’ll see a massive one.


Well,I’m told to be positive . I have by you.
I try it and guess what !
In future ,I ll get back to my doom and gloom naysinging best

Our striker has no chance. Did you not hear the crossing stats . It ain’t just me babe .
It ain’t me you’re looking for .

How about VIP stays stationery and wait for improved crosses to come in or maybe a pass . They could try this is training

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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:39 - Oct 23 with 627 viewsjack247

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:27 - Oct 23 by onehunglow

Well,I’m told to be positive . I have by you.
I try it and guess what !
In future ,I ll get back to my doom and gloom naysinging best

Our striker has no chance. Did you not hear the crossing stats . It ain’t just me babe .
It ain’t me you’re looking for .

How about VIP stays stationery and wait for improved crosses to come in or maybe a pass . They could try this is training


You’ve been watching football for decades. Great you’re trying to be more positive, but Vipotnik last night? Barely touched the ball and was absolutely no threat to Wednesday.

Every other player on the pitch had a better game than him. Including Grimes.
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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:59 - Oct 23 with 590 viewsonehunglow

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:39 - Oct 23 by jack247

You’ve been watching football for decades. Great you’re trying to be more positive, but Vipotnik last night? Barely touched the ball and was absolutely no threat to Wednesday.

Every other player on the pitch had a better game than him. Including Grimes.


Disagree matey.
I say he s nit great but he can practise .
Grimes ,to me,….well I need say no more really.
Look at the comments on others including PS .
I see him as the main issue ,a potentially match winning player utterly wasted by a coach .
Grimes was little better. Vip didn’t turn over the ball as easily .

I do feel the players should be knocking on Williams door to end this nonsense and that they don’t bothers me . I see little dedication or commitment to the cause although Cabango is the best IMO.

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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 17:10 - Oct 23 with 569 viewsjack247

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 16:59 - Oct 23 by onehunglow

Disagree matey.
I say he s nit great but he can practise .
Grimes ,to me,….well I need say no more really.
Look at the comments on others including PS .
I see him as the main issue ,a potentially match winning player utterly wasted by a coach .
Grimes was little better. Vip didn’t turn over the ball as easily .

I do feel the players should be knocking on Williams door to end this nonsense and that they don’t bothers me . I see little dedication or commitment to the cause although Cabango is the best IMO.


He didn’t turn over the ball as easily because he didn’t have it. He played for 80 odd minutes and touched it 13 times!

The players did that with Duff. It resulted in an overnight change of style and an uplift in performances and results. Unfortunately, he reverted to type soon after.

I don’t know what you expect from this group of players. 13 points and mid table at this point is overachieving IMO. It’s boring, but it will keep us up, which is frankly more than the owners deserve with the neglect they have shown the squad.
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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 17:23 - Oct 23 with 560 viewsonehunglow

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 17:10 - Oct 23 by jack247

He didn’t turn over the ball as easily because he didn’t have it. He played for 80 odd minutes and touched it 13 times!

The players did that with Duff. It resulted in an overnight change of style and an uplift in performances and results. Unfortunately, he reverted to type soon after.

I don’t know what you expect from this group of players. 13 points and mid table at this point is overachieving IMO. It’s boring, but it will keep us up, which is frankly more than the owners deserve with the neglect they have shown the squad.


What I expect …
A team who runs forward with some elan and when in sight of goal then kicks the ball in the direction of the goal.
I don’t expect the ball to go sideways 18 yards from goal when a shot is actually the easier option .
The throw in incident shows exactly how dumb we are and how putrid a caption he is .
A talented enough player who has been grossly mismanaged since Potter . Even Duff ,bless him,got him playing forward but this coach clearly instructs him to play this way .
Grimes seems a yes man

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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 20:27 - Oct 23 with 451 viewsjack247

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 17:23 - Oct 23 by onehunglow

What I expect …
A team who runs forward with some elan and when in sight of goal then kicks the ball in the direction of the goal.
I don’t expect the ball to go sideways 18 yards from goal when a shot is actually the easier option .
The throw in incident shows exactly how dumb we are and how putrid a caption he is .
A talented enough player who has been grossly mismanaged since Potter . Even Duff ,bless him,got him playing forward but this coach clearly instructs him to play this way .
Grimes seems a yes man


However you want to look at it, 13 points and mid table is over achieving with this group of players.
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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 08:33 - Oct 26 with 217 viewsWhiterockin

Trouble in the build up to this game.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/swansea-city-team-hit
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Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 09:22 - Oct 26 with 167 viewsonehunglow

Sheffield Wednesday v Swansea City : Match day thread GAME DAY on 20:27 - Oct 23 by jack247

However you want to look at it, 13 points and mid table is over achieving with this group of players.


Not the way I look at it really.

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