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Disgraceful! 12:05 - Sep 18 with 3193 viewsunion_jack

Or are WOL reverting to a bit of Mail / Express style reporting?

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Disgraceful! on 12:27 - Sep 18 with 2507 viewsKeithHaynes

I’m getting the word ‘BS’

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Disgraceful! on 12:59 - Sep 18 with 2478 viewsBoundy

I can well believe it , the north considers us southerners as non Welsh so someone from across the border could well receive an unwelcome mat.
Reading some of the comments seems to back up the negative experiences.

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Disgraceful! on 13:20 - Sep 18 with 2425 viewslifelong

More dreadful journalism from WOL.
File under bollocks.
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Disgraceful! on 13:20 - Sep 18 with 2423 viewsonehunglow

Before lifelong,bless him,pops up ,this is the reality ,the lie that the “ Welsh” are welcoming .
In the welsh speaking heartlands it is not.
Flintshire and Denbighshire are better though,the regions that don’t bkuddy speak welsh
We’ve stayed in Moria nefyn and the contempt fir English folk is palapable
And if you think south walians are immune from this,you’re not.
There might as well,be a wall from Barmouth to Oswestry .

This happens.

I can guarantee that welsh defenders will be along very soon posting what they do .

North wales would starve without tourists and English tourists prevail.

Gogs truly are embarrassing

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Disgraceful! on 13:22 - Sep 18 with 2415 viewslifelong

Disgraceful! on 13:20 - Sep 18 by onehunglow

Before lifelong,bless him,pops up ,this is the reality ,the lie that the “ Welsh” are welcoming .
In the welsh speaking heartlands it is not.
Flintshire and Denbighshire are better though,the regions that don’t bkuddy speak welsh
We’ve stayed in Moria nefyn and the contempt fir English folk is palapable
And if you think south walians are immune from this,you’re not.
There might as well,be a wall from Barmouth to Oswestry .

This happens.

I can guarantee that welsh defenders will be along very soon posting what they do .

North wales would starve without tourists and English tourists prevail.

Gogs truly are embarrassing


Yet more bollocks.
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Disgraceful! on 13:25 - Sep 18 with 2407 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 12:27 - Sep 18 by KeithHaynes

I’m getting the word ‘BS’


Keith.
I can guarantee to you Sir,this ain’t BS
Looking at this group,they dont look like scousers ,therefore thieves, or baleful Brummies who are going to dump coke cans on the Golders
I’m afraid we have no option to accept this prevailing attitude of north Walians bites the hands thatv feed
L
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Disgraceful! on 13:28 - Sep 18 with 2391 viewslifelong

Disgraceful! on 13:25 - Sep 18 by onehunglow

Keith.
I can guarantee to you Sir,this ain’t BS
Looking at this group,they dont look like scousers ,therefore thieves, or baleful Brummies who are going to dump coke cans on the Golders
I’m afraid we have no option to accept this prevailing attitude of north Walians bites the hands thatv feed
L
PS.this thread will become sticky


With your attitude towards the good people of North Wales do you ever wonder why you don’t get a welcome there?
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Disgraceful! on 13:30 - Sep 18 with 2385 viewsonehunglow

As I said folks.
That was less than five mins
Truth is that it IS embarassing
My chums from Huddersfield always enjoyed visiting Swansea and mixed well with Jacks
If they had to play Bangor City,things would. Be different

It is happening

This debate has already become personal .It vindicates completely my views

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Disgraceful! on 13:35 - Sep 18 with 2374 viewspencoedjack

I think are plenty of English haters on this forum so it doesn’t surprise me
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Disgraceful! on 13:38 - Sep 18 with 2374 viewslifelong

Disgraceful! on 13:30 - Sep 18 by onehunglow

As I said folks.
That was less than five mins
Truth is that it IS embarassing
My chums from Huddersfield always enjoyed visiting Swansea and mixed well with Jacks
If they had to play Bangor City,things would. Be different

It is happening

This debate has already become personal .It vindicates completely my views


You make it personal because of your obsession with me.

I have good friends in North Wales and have visited there on countless occasions visiting many restaurants and pubs whilst doing so.Not once have I, or my family, experienced unwelcome behaviour.
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Disgraceful! on 13:42 - Sep 18 with 2370 viewslifelong

Disgraceful! on 13:35 - Sep 18 by pencoedjack

I think are plenty of English haters on this forum so it doesn’t surprise me


Care to name who the English haters are?
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Disgraceful! on 13:48 - Sep 18 with 2364 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 13:38 - Sep 18 by lifelong

You make it personal because of your obsession with me.

I have good friends in North Wales and have visited there on countless occasions visiting many restaurants and pubs whilst doing so.Not once have I, or my family, experienced unwelcome behaviour.


Stick to topic
It’s not about me or yiu
Ignore button is your friend
Yours is a poor analogy
Please don’t us with making out north Walians are welcoming as an entity
You’ve lost this argument
Gogs need to understand what drives their economy
Why build a zip line ? Whose use was that for. Not locals for sure .
Why create Slate Museums ?
Just who visits them

Yeah baby

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Disgraceful! on 13:50 - Sep 18 with 2362 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 13:35 - Sep 18 by pencoedjack

I think are plenty of English haters on this forum so it doesn’t surprise me


How long was it before we saw the reaction?
It’s pitiful really
It’s the truth ,blinding and full beam
It’s not confortable
I have lots of friends in north wales and always feel welcomes.

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Disgraceful! on 13:52 - Sep 18 with 2360 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 13:35 - Sep 18 by pencoedjack

I think are plenty of English haters on this forum so it doesn’t surprise me


Nobody would admit to be so.
It certainly looks that way to outsiders
Many view this site but are not registered and would not post on a million light years
I have spoken what Ai see as the truth
People can’t take it,then tough titties
Wales has to grow up

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Disgraceful! on 13:57 - Sep 18 with 2345 viewslifelong

Disgraceful! on 13:48 - Sep 18 by onehunglow

Stick to topic
It’s not about me or yiu
Ignore button is your friend
Yours is a poor analogy
Please don’t us with making out north Walians are welcoming as an entity
You’ve lost this argument
Gogs need to understand what drives their economy
Why build a zip line ? Whose use was that for. Not locals for sure .
Why create Slate Museums ?
Just who visits them

Yeah baby


Millions of people visit Wales every year, both North and South, just because one bloke in a pub has upset a group of women the whole of North Wales is now unwelcoming..it’s utter bollocks.
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Disgraceful! on 13:57 - Sep 18 with 2341 viewspencoedjack

Disgraceful! on 13:42 - Sep 18 by lifelong

Care to name who the English haters are?


It's blatantly obvious so I don't need to name names.
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Disgraceful! on 14:01 - Sep 18 with 2326 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 13:57 - Sep 18 by lifelong

Millions of people visit Wales every year, both North and South, just because one bloke in a pub has upset a group of women the whole of North Wales is now unwelcoming..it’s utter bollocks.


Better.
But it’s not
I am telling you I have had similar crap,as have a myriad of friends who go there .We are 20 mins from the border so much nearer than you
Wrexham folk are by and large good folk . Urban welsh.
Coffis ,Bangoreyes and Llyn are different gravy

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Disgraceful! on 14:04 - Sep 18 with 2317 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 13:57 - Sep 18 by pencoedjack

It's blatantly obvious so I don't need to name names.


There isn’t and we should be discussing the topic
Note my initial comments and it guides yiu an insight
This report of six respectable middle aged ladies rubbished immediately as BS and then we see the pitiful….I vecalmways been welcomed there ….No you haven’t

It’s a lovely land but wasted on the people there

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Disgraceful! on 14:09 - Sep 18 with 2307 viewslifelong

Disgraceful! on 14:01 - Sep 18 by onehunglow

Better.
But it’s not
I am telling you I have had similar crap,as have a myriad of friends who go there .We are 20 mins from the border so much nearer than you
Wrexham folk are by and large good folk . Urban welsh.
Coffis ,Bangoreyes and Llyn are different gravy


Better?

Who the hell do you think you are? Have you suddenly become the Judge Judy of this forum?
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Disgraceful! on 14:25 - Sep 18 with 2286 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 14:09 - Sep 18 by lifelong

Better?

Who the hell do you think you are? Have you suddenly become the Judge Judy of this forum?


Judge Judy?
Is that that American lady on daytime tv?
If you’re watching that ….
Back on topic.
Yes,my real life,real time experiences which relate to the topic

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Disgraceful! on 14:59 - Sep 18 with 2247 viewsKeithHaynes

Disgraceful! on 13:25 - Sep 18 by onehunglow

Keith.
I can guarantee to you Sir,this ain’t BS
Looking at this group,they dont look like scousers ,therefore thieves, or baleful Brummies who are going to dump coke cans on the Golders
I’m afraid we have no option to accept this prevailing attitude of north Walians bites the hands thatv feed
L
PS.this thread will become sticky


I’ve visited the north many, many times, never once received anything other than a good welcome. These ‘ladies’ were looking for it. And found it.

Look for the bigger picture, socials, increasing their profile. And of course these comments they allege were made, and so many of them were unprovoked ? Like Harry Darling’s contract nonsense, I’m not buying it.

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Disgraceful! on 15:16 - Sep 18 with 2225 viewsonehunglow

Disgraceful! on 14:59 - Sep 18 by KeithHaynes

I’ve visited the north many, many times, never once received anything other than a good welcome. These ‘ladies’ were looking for it. And found it.

Look for the bigger picture, socials, increasing their profile. And of course these comments they allege were made, and so many of them were unprovoked ? Like Harry Darling’s contract nonsense, I’m not buying it.


It’s your right to buy Keith
I couldn’t disagree more
I visit the place regularly
It’s on our doorstep
My son works in Wrexham
Your suggesting that these ordinary middle age walking ladies would be looking at increasing their social media standing does not make me wantbto buy that at all.
I’ve seen this crap show myself
I’ve been on the receiving end myself . I can handle it deftly or not so subtlety but 60 yr old ladies walking Snowdon ?
Nah
No way

Personally ,the only thing that attracts me to Gogkand are the swimming beaches . Locals friendly? Nah
Last time we were there was in May ,in Mynytho ,where we hired a house for The Rock . I walk our dog four times daily .starting at 7am. Village is not touristy . It has a PO / shop. Wife went in for some cheese . Told her the welsh word and for the purchase she got faraway eyes .
One night,went to the nearest pub in Llanbedrog ,with the dog. On approaching the bar to order a food ,two locals were sat . I stood between them and looked at them both and said , or right lads”
I had a pink Swanse shirt on . They both looked away .
Meal was crap too.

So no, Ivecbeen more times that you and never ever received any welcome as you describe but I’ve not visited with a lively,feisty band

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Disgraceful! on 15:46 - Sep 18 with 2186 viewsjack247

Doesn’t happen often, but I agree with OHL here. There are certain heartlands, particularly further North, where non Welsh speakers, including Welsh people aren’t particularly welcomed.

It’s more of a cold shoulder than anything else.

Regarding the article though, two sides to every story. Llanberis and the like rely on and promote tourism. This kind of attitude is more prevalent off the beaten track.
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Disgraceful! on 16:46 - Sep 18 with 2132 viewsAnotherJohn

Disgraceful! on 15:46 - Sep 18 by jack247

Doesn’t happen often, but I agree with OHL here. There are certain heartlands, particularly further North, where non Welsh speakers, including Welsh people aren’t particularly welcomed.

It’s more of a cold shoulder than anything else.

Regarding the article though, two sides to every story. Llanberis and the like rely on and promote tourism. This kind of attitude is more prevalent off the beaten track.


Must admit that I think there is a perceptible difference between the south (which I consider generally very friendly - even Cardiff) and parts of the north. I had a short break in Porthmadog and the Llyn peninsula early in the year, and did get the sense of the occasional cold shoulder. Although I was christened in Swansea and have lived here on and off for nearly 40 years, I went to school in England, and I think my accent is enough to get an unfavorable reaction from some in the north. What might happen in the north is nothing compared with Scotland though.
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Disgraceful! on 17:37 - Sep 18 with 2110 viewsGwyn737

I think there are pockets (and situations) it could be worse on either side.

We’ve all had different experiences that will influence what we think.
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