| Are we all happy now? 16:35 - Jan 5 with 7504 views | RhonddaSwans |
Are we all back on the same side lads?
Remember Luke
•Has not had a pre season
I can't wait for the Southampton game coming up.
That is gonna be a ding dong battle.
LCB and RCB attacking , We have darling that will be perfect for one of them spots.
God alive I am optimistic 💪😎
Look Luke please give the fist bumps.
Don't be afraid to be brave , please just give us a side that is feared again.
Also (get langstaff here 😉)
LUKE WILLIAMS BARMY ARMY 🎉🥳🪖
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| Are we all happy now? on 13:00 - Jan 6 with 1527 views | KeithHaynes |
| Are we all happy now? on 12:59 - Jan 6 by onehunglow |
Only thing that concerns me is him not banishing suicidal passing at the back.
Get us winning games
Nothing beats it
Nothing |
Suicidal or not passing out from the back will most certainly be a thing. |  |
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| Are we all happy now? on 13:04 - Jan 6 with 1504 views | union_jack |
| Are we all happy now? on 13:00 - Jan 6 by KeithHaynes |
Suicidal or not passing out from the back will most certainly be a thing. |
Well that’s fine if we start to capitalise on it, invite the high press and pass through it.
But if it is only going to end up giving silly goals away because of personal errors then it needs to be binned or at least modified in some way.
Anyway, we’ll see in due course. |  |
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| Are we all happy now? on 13:10 - Jan 6 with 1483 views | Dr_Winston |
| Are we all happy now? on 13:04 - Jan 6 by union_jack |
Well that’s fine if we start to capitalise on it, invite the high press and pass through it.
But if it is only going to end up giving silly goals away because of personal errors then it needs to be binned or at least modified in some way.
Anyway, we’ll see in due course. |
Passing out of defence to beat the press is only half of the solution. There needs to be movement as well. Otherwise you aren't beating the press. You're just inviting it in and making it's job much easier.
As anyone who has witnessed a Swans throw in at any point since about 2015, movement is not something that we do well. |  |
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| Are we all happy now? on 13:19 - Jan 6 with 1485 views | jack247 |
| Are we all happy now? on 13:00 - Jan 6 by KeithHaynes |
Suicidal or not passing out from the back will most certainly be a thing. |
I think the Martin era scarred people regarding passing out from the back. It’s fine. We did it under Martinez, Rodgers and Laudrup.
Passing around the back at all costs and never having the inertia to progress through midfield is all we need to avoid. I can’t see how Notts County would have got over 100 points, regardless of level, if they played the way we did the last two seasons. | | | |
| Are we all happy now? on 13:56 - Jan 6 with 1435 views | onehunglow |
Sunderland just now proving my point
Ally MccCoist says
Absolute madness
You can't do that
Goalkeeper passing it five yds to a teamplayer already under pressure from opposition player who then passes it straight to his cum to stroke the ball into the net
We did this regularly under Russ
Absolute madness indeed | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 13:59 - Jan 6 with 1434 views | union_jack |
| Are we all happy now? on 13:10 - Jan 6 by Dr_Winston |
Passing out of defence to beat the press is only half of the solution. There needs to be movement as well. Otherwise you aren't beating the press. You're just inviting it in and making it's job much easier.
As anyone who has witnessed a Swans throw in at any point since about 2015, movement is not something that we do well. |
Absolutely correct of course. | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 14:07 - Jan 6 with 1415 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are we all happy now? on 13:00 - Jan 6 by KeithHaynes |
Suicidal or not passing out from the back will most certainly be a thing. |
it's only suicida; if yu do it when you clearly shoudn't and/or if you don't have players capable. Which we didn't under Russell Martin which is why it rarely worked and we shipped far too many silly goals. | | | |
| Are we all happy now? on 14:30 - Jan 6 with 1386 views | jack247 |
| Are we all happy now? on 14:07 - Jan 6 by SullutaCreturned |
it's only suicida; if yu do it when you clearly shoudn't and/or if you don't have players capable. Which we didn't under Russell Martin which is why it rarely worked and we shipped far too many silly goals. |
We were actually quite good at passing it out from the back. We fell apart when we didn’t have enough midfield options and we ended up trying to force passes that weren’t on or passing our way back into danger. | | | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 15:10 - Jan 6 with 1334 views | union_jack |
Don’t know if anyone saw Alan McInally’s feedback from Nansfield regarding the playing out of the back and resulting in a goal😂😂😂😂😂 | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 17:32 - Jan 6 with 1253 views | Dr_Winston |
| Are we all happy now? on 14:07 - Jan 6 by SullutaCreturned |
it's only suicida; if yu do it when you clearly shoudn't and/or if you don't have players capable. Which we didn't under Russell Martin which is why it rarely worked and we shipped far too many silly goals. |
If Garry Monk could pass the ball out of defence well enough for Rodgers, then all of the defenders we've had in the last two years should have been good enough to do it.
Unfortunately there's passing the ball out of the back to start moves off, and there's whatever the Hell Martin was trying to get them to do. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Are we all happy now? on 21:17 - Jan 6 with 1191 views | vetchonian |
| Are we all happy now? on 17:32 - Jan 6 by Dr_Winston |
If Garry Monk could pass the ball out of defence well enough for Rodgers, then all of the defenders we've had in the last two years should have been good enough to do it.
Unfortunately there's passing the ball out of the back to start moves off, and there's whatever the Hell Martin was trying to get them to do. |
Well Martin brought in Darling who had played his way at MKDons...but benched him....we passed out from the back under Cooper....using Naughton,Rodon,Cabango Bennet and of course Guehi....though folk ignore that....lots of examples on you tube.
It wasn't the players it was the tactics of suicidal tikka tikka in frontnof goal when it wasn't on.
the Saints fans criticise him there for the same thing though it seems it happens less there than it did here | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 21:25 - Jan 6 with 1159 views | Dr_Winston |
| Are we all happy now? on 21:17 - Jan 6 by vetchonian |
Well Martin brought in Darling who had played his way at MKDons...but benched him....we passed out from the back under Cooper....using Naughton,Rodon,Cabango Bennet and of course Guehi....though folk ignore that....lots of examples on you tube.
It wasn't the players it was the tactics of suicidal tikka tikka in frontnof goal when it wasn't on.
the Saints fans criticise him there for the same thing though it seems it happens less there than it did here |
Let's not excuse Cooper. Another manager who had the players to do better than he did but ultimately failed.
But yeah. It will never not be amusing to see the same Russell Martin who spent £2m on both Fisher and Darling and ended up benching both described as "not backed". | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 21:32 - Jan 6 with 1156 views | ModeratorD |
One hell of a keeper we got there ... | | | |
| Are we all happy now? on 21:35 - Jan 6 with 1146 views | swancity |
| Are we all happy now? on 21:17 - Jan 6 by vetchonian |
Well Martin brought in Darling who had played his way at MKDons...but benched him....we passed out from the back under Cooper....using Naughton,Rodon,Cabango Bennet and of course Guehi....though folk ignore that....lots of examples on you tube.
It wasn't the players it was the tactics of suicidal tikka tikka in frontnof goal when it wasn't on.
the Saints fans criticise him there for the same thing though it seems it happens less there than it did here |
Tikka Tikka ?
I’d prefer a biriani myself. Failing that a kochi. | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 06:54 - Jan 7 with 1077 views | jack247 |
| Are we all happy now? on 17:32 - Jan 6 by Dr_Winston |
If Garry Monk could pass the ball out of defence well enough for Rodgers, then all of the defenders we've had in the last two years should have been good enough to do it.
Unfortunately there's passing the ball out of the back to start moves off, and there's whatever the Hell Martin was trying to get them to do. |
There were so many times when we passed our way through the press, didn’t have the easy ball to a midfielder and were so hell bent on keeping the ball, we’d pass our way back into it and let them have another go.
I doubt it will be that extreme under Williams. | | | |
| Are we all happy now? on 09:05 - Jan 7 with 1023 views | Dr_Winston |
| Are we all happy now? on 06:54 - Jan 7 by jack247 |
There were so many times when we passed our way through the press, didn’t have the easy ball to a midfielder and were so hell bent on keeping the ball, we’d pass our way back into it and let them have another go.
I doubt it will be that extreme under Williams. |
"There were so many times when we passed our way through the press, didn’t have the easy ball to a midfielder and were so hell bent on keeping the ball, we’d pass our way back into it and let them have another go"
God yes. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Are we all happy now? on 09:10 - Jan 7 with 1029 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Are we all happy now? on 21:25 - Jan 6 by Dr_Winston |
Let's not excuse Cooper. Another manager who had the players to do better than he did but ultimately failed.
But yeah. It will never not be amusing to see the same Russell Martin who spent £2m on both Fisher and Darling and ended up benching both described as "not backed". |
Not sure why you are having a go at Cooper he got us into the playoffs twice. He was far better than Potter who finished mid table with most of his player's having played in the PL the previous season.
Martin tactics of we must make suicidal passes in defence no matter what was clearly wrong. | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 09:40 - Jan 7 with 994 views | onehunglow |
| Are we all happy now? on 09:10 - Jan 7 by felixstowe_jack |
Not sure why you are having a go at Cooper he got us into the playoffs twice. He was far better than Potter who finished mid table with most of his player's having played in the PL the previous season.
Martin tactics of we must make suicidal passes in defence no matter what was clearly wrong. |
It clearly was and the idea we select a goalkeeper as he is “ good with the ball at his feet” damns us,absolutely.
I’d rather a keeper be good with his hands and move
One of their corners yesterday saw him motionless on his line . | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 10:12 - Jan 7 with 952 views | cadleigh |
I'd say 99% of us are happy now. I know I am. Last night was WAY too soon to make any judgements about how we'll play under him. The only thing I took away from it was that we improved in the second half and that's a positive sign.
I genuinely think we have an opportunity to put the culture wars of the past 4.5 seasons behind us. He's worked with Martin and obviously likes his players to keep possession, but he also likes them to do something with that possession, so both camps should be happy.
The remaining (scatalogical) 1% will never be happy.
Let’s move on together, back the new manager, and hope that he can drive walking football out of this club for good. [Post edited 7 Jan 11:52]
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| Are we all happy now? on 10:19 - Jan 7 with 942 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Are we all happy now? on 14:30 - Jan 6 by jack247 |
We were actually quite good at passing it out from the back. We fell apart when we didn’t have enough midfield options and we ended up trying to force passes that weren’t on or passing our way back into danger. |
Part of that problem was that grimes kept dropping in between the centre backs which took away a midfield option, where he needed to pass to was where he should have been. That's what kept putting us in trouble. Grimes still drops too deep too often. | | | |
| Are we all happy now? on 10:21 - Jan 7 with 935 views | onehunglow |
| Are we all happy now? on 10:12 - Jan 7 by cadleigh |
I'd say 99% of us are happy now. I know I am. Last night was WAY too soon to make any judgements about how we'll play under him. The only thing I took away from it was that we improved in the second half and that's a positive sign.
I genuinely think we have an opportunity to put the culture wars of the past 4.5 seasons behind us. He's worked with Martin and obviously likes his players to keep possession, but he also likes them to do something with that possession, so both camps should be happy.
The remaining (scatalogical) 1% will never be happy.
Let’s move on together, back the new manager, and hope that he can drive walking football out of this club for good. [Post edited 7 Jan 11:52]
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Scatalogical.
Great word | |
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| Are we all happy now? on 10:23 - Jan 7 with 933 views | Gwyn737 |
| Are we all happy now? on 10:12 - Jan 7 by cadleigh |
I'd say 99% of us are happy now. I know I am. Last night was WAY too soon to make any judgements about how we'll play under him. The only thing I took away from it was that we improved in the second half and that's a positive sign.
I genuinely think we have an opportunity to put the culture wars of the past 4.5 seasons behind us. He's worked with Martin and obviously likes his players to keep possession, but he also likes them to do something with that possession, so both camps should be happy.
The remaining (scatalogical) 1% will never be happy.
Let’s move on together, back the new manager, and hope that he can drive walking football out of this club for good. [Post edited 7 Jan 11:52]
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Lots of good points in there, although I’d add the sentence that starts “The remaining 1% will never be happy…” could easily have just stopped there 😉 | | | |
| Are we all happy now? on 10:24 - Jan 7 with 927 views | Dr_Winston |
| Are we all happy now? on 10:19 - Jan 7 by SullutaCreturned |
Part of that problem was that grimes kept dropping in between the centre backs which took away a midfield option, where he needed to pass to was where he should have been. That's what kept putting us in trouble. Grimes still drops too deep too often. |
A situation worsened when he's paired up with Fulton because they both do it.
It's the primary reason that for me, if Patino is fit he plays. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Are we all happy now? on 10:40 - Jan 7 with 908 views | jack247 |
| Are we all happy now? on 10:19 - Jan 7 by SullutaCreturned |
Part of that problem was that grimes kept dropping in between the centre backs which took away a midfield option, where he needed to pass to was where he should have been. That's what kept putting us in trouble. Grimes still drops too deep too often. |
True | | | |
| Are we all happy now? on 11:53 - Jan 7 with 862 views | cadleigh |
| Are we all happy now? on 10:23 - Jan 7 by Gwyn737 |
Lots of good points in there, although I’d add the sentence that starts “The remaining 1% will never be happy…” could easily have just stopped there 😉 |
Sorted (without disappointing Dr W) | |
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