| You cannot be serious 23:51 - Feb 14 with 2093 views | MattFinish |
I just can’t believe this w***fest by some fans on here about Jesse Marsch
His record speaks for itself, he’s sh1te
Jones had a 35% win rate in league and cups at Saints and in the same period Marsch won two out of nine games, against Accrington Stanley and Cardiff. In his time at Leeds he had a 29% win record and people are banging on like he’s the next coming.
Unbelievable, I’m lost for words |  | | |  |
| You cannot be serious on 00:27 - Feb 15 with 2034 views | 1885_SFC |
Strachan's record at Coventry wasn't much better before he took over from a disastrous Stuart Gray. Sometimes a manager just fits a club.
Who should have been given the job then Matt?
I don't think anyone on here is having a w***fest about Jesse Marsch. Some of us are realists & are looking at the bigger picture. We are not going to attract a big name or someone with vast Premier League experience - not in our current state.
Last but not least, some of us are just chuffed to f*ck that we'd rather have Jesse Marsch than Nathan fooking Jones. |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 07:05 - Feb 15 with 1853 views | TripleNiemi |
Just laugh pal, laugh.
Most on this site have an air of pragmatism and reality, however I have come to the conclusion that we have a bunch of complete tools on Social Media platforms that have no sense of reality or the real world. Almost given up on the modern game now…… |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 07:32 - Feb 15 with 1805 views | dwayne_dibley |
This season is a bust so wtf difference does it make who takes over in the short term |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 08:03 - Feb 15 with 1731 views | saint22 |
| You cannot be serious on 07:05 - Feb 15 by TripleNiemi |
Just laugh pal, laugh.
Most on this site have an air of pragmatism and reality, however I have come to the conclusion that we have a bunch of complete tools on Social Media platforms that have no sense of reality or the real world. Almost given up on the modern game now…… |
people who spend their life in the virtual world on social media really have o grasp join reality
their reality is love island "hilarious" memes and doing jäger bombs |  | | |
| You cannot be serious on 08:18 - Feb 15 with 1707 views | MattFinish |
| You cannot be serious on 07:32 - Feb 15 by dwayne_dibley |
This season is a bust so wtf difference does it make who takes over in the short term |
What are you talking about? There’s just under half a season left, for the first time since Ralph’s first season we have a half decent squad and there’s over a third of the table within 9 points of us
Get the right manager in and the season is clearly salvageable and you only have to look at Wolves and Forest for proof. They were below us when Jones was appointed | | | |
| You cannot be serious on 08:43 - Feb 15 with 1664 views | Chesham_Saint |
| You cannot be serious on 08:18 - Feb 15 by MattFinish |
What are you talking about? There’s just under half a season left, for the first time since Ralph’s first season we have a half decent squad and there’s over a third of the table within 9 points of us
Get the right manager in and the season is clearly salvageable and you only have to look at Wolves and Forest for proof. They were below us when Jones was appointed |
I agree. Marsch - hugely underwhelming. And that’s being kind. |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 08:53 - Feb 15 with 1634 views | SaintNick |
| You cannot be serious on 08:18 - Feb 15 by MattFinish |
What are you talking about? There’s just under half a season left, for the first time since Ralph’s first season we have a half decent squad and there’s over a third of the table within 9 points of us
Get the right manager in and the season is clearly salvageable and you only have to look at Wolves and Forest for proof. They were below us when Jones was appointed |
You are right Forest were below us but they kept faith with their manager and didn't panic, it is no use moaning about Hassenhuttl's sacking or Jones appointment now, we just have to move forward.
You can take Marsch's stats in his last games at Leeds and make a case for why we should not appoint him, you can also make a case for his record at Leeds overall and appoint him where he kept them up and has averaged 1.16 points per game.
You could make it look better by taking his record between starting the job and the World Cup break, that looks even better, up to then he was doing ok
You could also look at his record as RB Salzburg boss and see that he is not a Lower League manager as Jones was, but one that has won titles in the top flight of a European country.
All we can do is back him if he is appointed, I wasn't a fan of Jones but his cause, which was also "our" cause was not helped by the continual criticism of him on social media |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 09:34 - Feb 15 with 1543 views | Buggalugs |
| You cannot be serious on 08:53 - Feb 15 by SaintNick |
You are right Forest were below us but they kept faith with their manager and didn't panic, it is no use moaning about Hassenhuttl's sacking or Jones appointment now, we just have to move forward.
You can take Marsch's stats in his last games at Leeds and make a case for why we should not appoint him, you can also make a case for his record at Leeds overall and appoint him where he kept them up and has averaged 1.16 points per game.
You could make it look better by taking his record between starting the job and the World Cup break, that looks even better, up to then he was doing ok
You could also look at his record as RB Salzburg boss and see that he is not a Lower League manager as Jones was, but one that has won titles in the top flight of a European country.
All we can do is back him if he is appointed, I wasn't a fan of Jones but his cause, which was also "our" cause was not helped by the continual criticism of him on social media |
Jones was on a hiding to nothing before he even walked through the door. Far too many preferred putting their energy into slagging him and the appointment off rather than at least giving the bloke a chance. What do fans think that's going to achieve? If you constantly pedal doom and gloom and negativity, that's what you'll get.
Who knows if Marsch will be any better? Some managers and players are shite at one club, but excel at another....a natural fit if you like. I don't remember people praising the clubs appointments of Strachan, Adkins or Pochetinno at the time....the same lack of ambition and cheap option tags were broadly banded about.
Jones didn't help himself as he was instantly unlikeable, but as supporters of the club, we should all at least get behind whoever the new guy is, create some positivity in the stands and do our part to drag us out of the mess we're in. |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 09:35 - Feb 15 with 1539 views | MattFinish |
| You cannot be serious on 08:53 - Feb 15 by SaintNick |
You are right Forest were below us but they kept faith with their manager and didn't panic, it is no use moaning about Hassenhuttl's sacking or Jones appointment now, we just have to move forward.
You can take Marsch's stats in his last games at Leeds and make a case for why we should not appoint him, you can also make a case for his record at Leeds overall and appoint him where he kept them up and has averaged 1.16 points per game.
You could make it look better by taking his record between starting the job and the World Cup break, that looks even better, up to then he was doing ok
You could also look at his record as RB Salzburg boss and see that he is not a Lower League manager as Jones was, but one that has won titles in the top flight of a European country.
All we can do is back him if he is appointed, I wasn't a fan of Jones but his cause, which was also "our" cause was not helped by the continual criticism of him on social media |
Nick, if Marsch is appointed and does well I’ll back him 100% but there’s nothing that says to me he will. I have a couple of mates who are Leeds fans and they thought he was completely out of his depth
I don’t think Ralph should have been sacked, I think he should have been bought some strikers over the last two seasons but that’s in the past and as far as I can see my post is not moaning about Ralph’s sacking or Jones’s appointment it’s about Sports Republic potentially making a third serious error of judgement in less than 4 months
Yes you can ignore Masch’s disastrous performance at Leeds and look back 3 seasons ago when he did well at RB Salzburg but then again that’s like Steve Gerrard doing well at Rangers. You could make the same argument that Jones did well at Saints if you ignore the games he lost and look at how well he did at Luton | | | |
| You cannot be serious on 09:41 - Feb 15 with 1513 views | Butty101 |
| You cannot be serious on 09:34 - Feb 15 by Buggalugs |
Jones was on a hiding to nothing before he even walked through the door. Far too many preferred putting their energy into slagging him and the appointment off rather than at least giving the bloke a chance. What do fans think that's going to achieve? If you constantly pedal doom and gloom and negativity, that's what you'll get.
Who knows if Marsch will be any better? Some managers and players are shite at one club, but excel at another....a natural fit if you like. I don't remember people praising the clubs appointments of Strachan, Adkins or Pochetinno at the time....the same lack of ambition and cheap option tags were broadly banded about.
Jones didn't help himself as he was instantly unlikeable, but as supporters of the club, we should all at least get behind whoever the new guy is, create some positivity in the stands and do our part to drag us out of the mess we're in. |
Lets not re-write history eh. Had he hit the ground running then he would have been given a fair crack. However having had 6 or so weeks to work with the squad and implement his ideas, we had regressed further.
Marsch is going to be a disaster, winning things in leagues comparable with Scotland counts for nothing. |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 09:51 - Feb 15 with 1485 views | SaintNick |
| You cannot be serious on 09:35 - Feb 15 by MattFinish |
Nick, if Marsch is appointed and does well I’ll back him 100% but there’s nothing that says to me he will. I have a couple of mates who are Leeds fans and they thought he was completely out of his depth
I don’t think Ralph should have been sacked, I think he should have been bought some strikers over the last two seasons but that’s in the past and as far as I can see my post is not moaning about Ralph’s sacking or Jones’s appointment it’s about Sports Republic potentially making a third serious error of judgement in less than 4 months
Yes you can ignore Masch’s disastrous performance at Leeds and look back 3 seasons ago when he did well at RB Salzburg but then again that’s like Steve Gerrard doing well at Rangers. You could make the same argument that Jones did well at Saints if you ignore the games he lost and look at how well he did at Luton |
Im glad to hear that you back him.
Im not ignoring Marsch's performance at Leeds, it wasn't disastrous though, he kept them up and they were outside of the bottom 4 when he was sacked, you could argue that the same as Ralph he lacked strikers .
Saying we could look back 3 years is attempting to cloud the situation, the last of the two titles was less than 2 years ago in 2020/21 season, comparing it to Scotland is a little unfair, it is more than just a two horse race in Austria. | |
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| You cannot be serious on 09:58 - Feb 15 with 1475 views | SonicBoom |
He wouldn't be my choice. for all he did well last season keeping Leeds up he blew this season by not getting any wins. Leeds fans also seem bemused by his post match comments, which sounds familiar.
However if it's him then it's him. We need him to be successful and we should immediately get behind him. Big decision for the owners though cos if they get it totally wrong again then their stock will be rock bottom with the fans. Incidentally I actually think that we are good enough to stay up so I don't buy into the narrative that we are already down and Marsch only has to prepare us for the championship. It's not over yet. |  | | |
| You cannot be serious on 10:00 - Feb 15 with 1470 views | MattFinish |
| You cannot be serious on 09:51 - Feb 15 by SaintNick |
Im glad to hear that you back him.
Im not ignoring Marsch's performance at Leeds, it wasn't disastrous though, he kept them up and they were outside of the bottom 4 when he was sacked, you could argue that the same as Ralph he lacked strikers .
Saying we could look back 3 years is attempting to cloud the situation, the last of the two titles was less than 2 years ago in 2020/21 season, comparing it to Scotland is a little unfair, it is more than just a two horse race in Austria. |
Yes but the Austrian Bundesliga is far closer to the Scottish PL than the English Premier League | | | |
| You cannot be serious on 10:02 - Feb 15 with 1466 views | MattFinish |
| You cannot be serious on 09:58 - Feb 15 by SonicBoom |
He wouldn't be my choice. for all he did well last season keeping Leeds up he blew this season by not getting any wins. Leeds fans also seem bemused by his post match comments, which sounds familiar.
However if it's him then it's him. We need him to be successful and we should immediately get behind him. Big decision for the owners though cos if they get it totally wrong again then their stock will be rock bottom with the fans. Incidentally I actually think that we are good enough to stay up so I don't buy into the narrative that we are already down and Marsch only has to prepare us for the championship. It's not over yet. |
Absolutely, there’s 48 points to fight for | | | |
| You cannot be serious on 10:47 - Feb 15 with 1340 views | DorsetIan |
| You cannot be serious on 08:53 - Feb 15 by SaintNick |
You are right Forest were below us but they kept faith with their manager and didn't panic, it is no use moaning about Hassenhuttl's sacking or Jones appointment now, we just have to move forward.
You can take Marsch's stats in his last games at Leeds and make a case for why we should not appoint him, you can also make a case for his record at Leeds overall and appoint him where he kept them up and has averaged 1.16 points per game.
You could make it look better by taking his record between starting the job and the World Cup break, that looks even better, up to then he was doing ok
You could also look at his record as RB Salzburg boss and see that he is not a Lower League manager as Jones was, but one that has won titles in the top flight of a European country.
All we can do is back him if he is appointed, I wasn't a fan of Jones but his cause, which was also "our" cause was not helped by the continual criticism of him on social media |
Got to take issue with your suggestion that Jone's cause wasn't helped by the constant criticism of him on social media.
Sure, his appointment was extremely underwhelming and he got a lot of stick on social media (and from other media sources) but his problems were entirely his own making.
Hi first game against Brighton after having such a long time with the team was a joke (why did he need a half of competitive football to know that Diallo and Djenepo shouldn't be playing?) and an absolutely massive disappointment. And the Forest game was even worse.
And people did start to give him a chance when he won three in a week - me included - but it was soon back to strange decisions and losing ways.
Throughout his media appearances were amateurish and bizarre. And I would say that it was his comments after the Brentford game rather than the actual result, that really sealed his fate.
If anything the 'constant criticism' of him forced the board to pull the plug as early as they did. A decision that was at least a week late, as I think you have acknowledged elsewhere.
Marsch is a different kettle of fish. Who know what his results are going to be like but he's not going to be shooting himself in the foot like Jones did. | |
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| You cannot be serious on 11:15 - Feb 15 with 1276 views | Buggalugs |
| You cannot be serious on 09:41 - Feb 15 by Butty101 |
Lets not re-write history eh. Had he hit the ground running then he would have been given a fair crack. However having had 6 or so weeks to work with the squad and implement his ideas, we had regressed further.
Marsch is going to be a disaster, winning things in leagues comparable with Scotland counts for nothing. |
Yes, I bet you were over the moon when as a constantly struggling Premier League club we appointed the sacked manager of freshly relegated Coventry back in 2001. He was so obviously the stand-out candidate to help us avoid the drop, get us up the league and to an FA Cup final.
I've no doubt you also called it right when the ex-physio of Scunthorpe United was seen as the answer to get us promoted back to the Premier League. Most scoffed, but you just knew he was the one.
It also goes without saying you were doing cartwheels when an unheard of Argentinian with zero Premier League experience and who couldn't speak a word of English was recruited from a struggling Espanyol side to replace the guy that had just given us back to back promotions.
Fair play on calling all those right as well. | |
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| You cannot be serious on 11:19 - Feb 15 with 1257 views | Berber |
| You cannot be serious on 08:53 - Feb 15 by SaintNick |
You are right Forest were below us but they kept faith with their manager and didn't panic, it is no use moaning about Hassenhuttl's sacking or Jones appointment now, we just have to move forward.
You can take Marsch's stats in his last games at Leeds and make a case for why we should not appoint him, you can also make a case for his record at Leeds overall and appoint him where he kept them up and has averaged 1.16 points per game.
You could make it look better by taking his record between starting the job and the World Cup break, that looks even better, up to then he was doing ok
You could also look at his record as RB Salzburg boss and see that he is not a Lower League manager as Jones was, but one that has won titles in the top flight of a European country.
All we can do is back him if he is appointed, I wasn't a fan of Jones but his cause, which was also "our" cause was not helped by the continual criticism of him on social media |
He has also brought them into a relegation fight alongside us. Both asa get out of jail gambit, as well as any future campaign, the facts do not bear out a decision to select him. I sincerely hope I have to eat humble pie on this. |  |
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| You cannot be serious on 11:38 - Feb 15 with 1220 views | GRIM |
| You cannot be serious on 09:35 - Feb 15 by MattFinish |
Nick, if Marsch is appointed and does well I’ll back him 100% but there’s nothing that says to me he will. I have a couple of mates who are Leeds fans and they thought he was completely out of his depth
I don’t think Ralph should have been sacked, I think he should have been bought some strikers over the last two seasons but that’s in the past and as far as I can see my post is not moaning about Ralph’s sacking or Jones’s appointment it’s about Sports Republic potentially making a third serious error of judgement in less than 4 months
Yes you can ignore Masch’s disastrous performance at Leeds and look back 3 seasons ago when he did well at RB Salzburg but then again that’s like Steve Gerrard doing well at Rangers. You could make the same argument that Jones did well at Saints if you ignore the games he lost and look at how well he did at Luton |
I have to disagree with your comment saying Ralph should not have been sacked.
He admitted publicly that he had run out of ideas.
His team selections were crazy , consistently playing players out of position & his substitutions were horrendous, he made them too late in the game & they always made us worse.
We had the worst record in the lge for losing games from a winning position.
He had to go but we're very limited for choice of a new manager to replace the hapless Nathan Jones.
I for one will be supporting & hoping that Jesse Marsche can keep us in the the best lge in the world.
It's no good us lot getting on his back before he's even started the job, give the guy a chance. | | | |
| You cannot be serious on 11:48 - Feb 15 with 1194 views | SteveMoron |
| You cannot be serious on 08:18 - Feb 15 by MattFinish |
What are you talking about? There’s just under half a season left, for the first time since Ralph’s first season we have a half decent squad and there’s over a third of the table within 9 points of us
Get the right manager in and the season is clearly salvageable and you only have to look at Wolves and Forest for proof. They were below us when Jones was appointed |
For the first time Marsch has a decent squad. Leeds have been seriously unlucky and play exciting football. Might as well not die wondering. |  | | |
| You cannot be serious on 11:56 - Feb 15 with 1164 views | MattFinish |
| You cannot be serious on 11:38 - Feb 15 by GRIM |
I have to disagree with your comment saying Ralph should not have been sacked.
He admitted publicly that he had run out of ideas.
His team selections were crazy , consistently playing players out of position & his substitutions were horrendous, he made them too late in the game & they always made us worse.
We had the worst record in the lge for losing games from a winning position.
He had to go but we're very limited for choice of a new manager to replace the hapless Nathan Jones.
I for one will be supporting & hoping that Jesse Marsche can keep us in the the best lge in the world.
It's no good us lot getting on his back before he's even started the job, give the guy a chance. |
Yet with appalling backing from the owners, no strikers and a squad full of youth players he kept us in the PL for four seasons, took us top for the first time in 32 years, got us to the cup semi final and quarter final and in four seasons we were only in the relegation places a total of 4 weeks
In addition he was able to go through dips in form and come out the other side, something that Jones and Marsch couldn’t
Don’t get me wrong, Ralph was ground down and was sacked and there’s no going back but we need someone who in the same circumstances is a big improvement on him otherwise it’s a backward step. Jones clearly wasn’t and I fail to see how Marsch is.
I’ll get behind Marsch if appointed and hope the boo boys at SMS don’t get on his back from the first whistle but it doesn’t mean I have to be happy with the appointment | | | |
| You cannot be serious on 12:38 - Feb 15 with 1074 views | oncebitterne |
| You cannot be serious on 11:56 - Feb 15 by MattFinish |
Yet with appalling backing from the owners, no strikers and a squad full of youth players he kept us in the PL for four seasons, took us top for the first time in 32 years, got us to the cup semi final and quarter final and in four seasons we were only in the relegation places a total of 4 weeks
In addition he was able to go through dips in form and come out the other side, something that Jones and Marsch couldn’t
Don’t get me wrong, Ralph was ground down and was sacked and there’s no going back but we need someone who in the same circumstances is a big improvement on him otherwise it’s a backward step. Jones clearly wasn’t and I fail to see how Marsch is.
I’ll get behind Marsch if appointed and hope the boo boys at SMS don’t get on his back from the first whistle but it doesn’t mean I have to be happy with the appointment |
Agree with all of that Matt but the trouble is who else is available who is willing to come?
Actually JM's record suggests he might restore some togetherness and morale amongst the players so they all raise their game.
Hopefully those who can't will be sent packing at the end of the season as we prepare for another season in the Premier League!  | | | |
| You cannot be serious on 12:46 - Feb 15 with 1047 views | Scoot |
| You cannot be serious on 00:27 - Feb 15 by 1885_SFC |
Strachan's record at Coventry wasn't much better before he took over from a disastrous Stuart Gray. Sometimes a manager just fits a club.
Who should have been given the job then Matt?
I don't think anyone on here is having a w***fest about Jesse Marsch. Some of us are realists & are looking at the bigger picture. We are not going to attract a big name or someone with vast Premier League experience - not in our current state.
Last but not least, some of us are just chuffed to f*ck that we'd rather have Jesse Marsch than Nathan fooking Jones. |
When Strachan left his win % was shitte. Everyone looks back with rose-tinted glasses at him but the stats don't bare it out. Since Ted was manager only one person had an above 50% win rate and that was Koeman not poch not any of the others. | |
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| You cannot be serious on 13:38 - Feb 15 with 981 views | dirk_doone |
| You cannot be serious on 09:51 - Feb 15 by SaintNick |
Im glad to hear that you back him.
Im not ignoring Marsch's performance at Leeds, it wasn't disastrous though, he kept them up and they were outside of the bottom 4 when he was sacked, you could argue that the same as Ralph he lacked strikers .
Saying we could look back 3 years is attempting to cloud the situation, the last of the two titles was less than 2 years ago in 2020/21 season, comparing it to Scotland is a little unfair, it is more than just a two horse race in Austria. |
"Comparing it to Scotland is a little unfair, it is more than just a two horse race in Austria." 
True, it's just a one horse race:
2022-23 Red Bull Salzburg
2021-22 Red Bull Salzburg
2020—21 Red Bull Salzburg
2019—20 Red Bull Salzburg
2018—19 Red Bull Salzburg
2017—18 Red Bull Salzburg
2016—17 Red Bull Salzburg
2015—16 Red Bull Salzburg
2014—15 Red Bull Salzburg
2013—14 Red Bull Salzburg
Even Nathan Jones could win the league title with them. |  |
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