| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC 19:45 - Aug 4 with 17265 views | RAFCBLUE |
From the forum.
The club have reported the potential investors for discriminatory comments made.
Disgraceful that in the current day and age people make discriminatory comments and well done to the Board for taking the steps to properly report these to the EFL. |  |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 11:31 - Aug 5 with 3268 views | finberty |
Threatening behaviour is a criminal act.
So is the removal of club data, with a view to hawking it around the most gullible and despicable of shysters.
Two separate criminal acts, and we are confident we know who is behind each one. |  | | |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 11:35 - Aug 5 with 3249 views | RAFCBLUE |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 11:31 - Aug 5 by finberty |
Threatening behaviour is a criminal act.
So is the removal of club data, with a view to hawking it around the most gullible and despicable of shysters.
Two separate criminal acts, and we are confident we know who is behind each one. |
And justice can be served over time.
If you look at the backlog of cases in the courts there are many years to follow through on any wrongdoing and have it properly investigated and prosecuted.
I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life looking over my shoulder for the long arm of the law creeping up on me.
Whoever leaked all that personal shareholder information has committed a deceitful and criminal act. | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 11:39 - Aug 5 with 3221 views | electricblue |
It was stated at the FF that Curran and Rose have not started proceedings through the proper channels and there is a protocol of doing things..
Its seems that these two are so thick(hence their business stance) that they started from a backwards prospective which in its self speaks volumes......
If these two have offered to buy Altmans and Marcellis shares then im affraid the yanks wont get any money and they will still hold the amount they bought.......
Perhaps the trust can persuade them to sell to them later...... |  |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 11:41 - Aug 5 with 3213 views | ThreeLions |
You would have to ask the board and the chairman for details. |  | | |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 11:50 - Aug 5 with 3160 views | RAFCBLUE |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 11:39 - Aug 5 by electricblue |
It was stated at the FF that Curran and Rose have not started proceedings through the proper channels and there is a protocol of doing things..
Its seems that these two are so thick(hence their business stance) that they started from a backwards prospective which in its self speaks volumes......
If these two have offered to buy Altmans and Marcellis shares then im affraid the yanks wont get any money and they will still hold the amount they bought.......
Perhaps the trust can persuade them to sell to them later...... |
I suspect you have Mr Bottomley to thank for this if you are Curran and Rose.
The plan which was withdrawn at the EGM was for the then directors to be allowed to release new shares to anyone they saw as fit and proper.
If that had been passed, then Curran and Rose would be in by now - with over 50% and the EFL test would have been swept under the table.
Unfortunately Bottomley did not get his wish.
He was then removed from the Board and has now left the club by mutual consent.
It would be amazing if Curran and Rose had listened to a man most of use regard as a complete and utter tool but we know that he can be convincing and conniving however if you don't know that I bet you can be taken in.
Any NDA's signed with Curran / Rose / Jarvis will have been on his watch and if they have transacted on a "dead cert" which isn't actually a dead cert, well that just leaves you dead.
Bottomley will have known the purported selling shareholders well for years - Andrew Kilpatrick, himself and Graham Rawlinson served on a majority board alongside others.
Then the two Americans - they were tempted on to the Board by Bottomley but then said no.
The planning for sale of the club then followed.
If you're trying to buy this club then you are backing Bottomley's plan - a plan that essentially failed because it did not make any sense. | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 13:01 - Aug 5 with 2998 views | D_Alien |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 21:56 - Aug 4 by jonahwhereru |
Ah! I’m from Essex. Mind I can recognise all of Finberty’s comments. I see it everyday.
The arrogance, inflammatory and threatening language they use is a true sign of an ignorant and truly rattle group of wannabe’s, who haven’t got an ounce of class or scruples.
This episode has completely trashed their business credibility. As a result they will be desperate to get hold of the club. But the evidence as to why they are neither fit or proper persons is mounting up against them, and ironically they are providing all the damaging details themselves. Thanks lads keep it coming, |
They will be desperate, as you suggest, and it's showing in their behaviour
Having put so many eggs in the Dale basket (without paying for them) and in the process raising their profile further with the EFL, failure to achieve the HRT could leave them all in an exposed and compromised business position
When they've finished whingeing pathetically about us, they'll find someone to blame - and they need look no further than David Bottomley
David, if you're keeping tabs on this, you know you'd better watch your back (and your back door). The Essex mob will be on your trail, if they aren't already. And they won't be the only ones; i wouldn't be surprised if further enquiries are made into your business activity whilst at RAFC by more than one body concerned with law enforcement, for instance
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 13:18 - Aug 5 with 2946 views | RAFCBLUE |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 13:01 - Aug 5 by D_Alien |
They will be desperate, as you suggest, and it's showing in their behaviour
Having put so many eggs in the Dale basket (without paying for them) and in the process raising their profile further with the EFL, failure to achieve the HRT could leave them all in an exposed and compromised business position
When they've finished whingeing pathetically about us, they'll find someone to blame - and they need look no further than David Bottomley
David, if you're keeping tabs on this, you know you'd better watch your back (and your back door). The Essex mob will be on your trail, if they aren't already. And they won't be the only ones; i wouldn't be surprised if further enquiries are made into your business activity whilst at RAFC by more than one body concerned with law enforcement, for instance
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I said the same in an earlier post DA.
I can see how Curran and Rose - despite their obviously unsuitability - might have been taken in by Bottomley.
He'll have given them every assistance AND we know for a fact that he hosted all of the possible investors at the Swindon Town home game on 13th April , which included Martin Halsall, the Speakmans and Curran.
From there the plan Bottomley had failed spectacularly but if you didn't know him (as Dale fans do) and know the level of ineptitude as CEO and just listened to one of the many odious Youtube or PR broadcast you may have fallen into the trap that he actually knew his stuff.
Then there was the clandestine running around to snap up shares, but not a majority.
Panic then sets in and Alexander Jarvis rings around all big shareholders hoping for enough to get them over the line. They obviously all say no and the word gets out.
Bottomley has locked up a sizeable wedge (I think that is the Essex word) of Curran and Rose's capital in a client account with a law firm that MIGHT be transferred. Existing shareholders have received nothing so far.
In the meantime, the PR that Curran is getting as a man who owns a £2.1m mansion in Ingatestone, Essex and drives a £300k Rolls Royce Culinan without having ever seemingly had a job is getting people to ask questions.
Rose - his compadre - is also tied up with John Radford the Mansfield owner (Google: Mansfield Town Barnby Moor) and Rose's son Oliver works directly for Radford.
There are so many failures and conflicts of interests it does make you wonder how the EFL haven't just thrown them out.
Bottomley will not be a popular man when this all goes south. Something Hasbro and Dale have found out to their cost already and I suspect Curran and Rose are just wakening too..... | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 23:15 - Aug 6 with 2704 views | Marjorie_Plane |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 13:18 - Aug 5 by RAFCBLUE |
I said the same in an earlier post DA.
I can see how Curran and Rose - despite their obviously unsuitability - might have been taken in by Bottomley.
He'll have given them every assistance AND we know for a fact that he hosted all of the possible investors at the Swindon Town home game on 13th April , which included Martin Halsall, the Speakmans and Curran.
From there the plan Bottomley had failed spectacularly but if you didn't know him (as Dale fans do) and know the level of ineptitude as CEO and just listened to one of the many odious Youtube or PR broadcast you may have fallen into the trap that he actually knew his stuff.
Then there was the clandestine running around to snap up shares, but not a majority.
Panic then sets in and Alexander Jarvis rings around all big shareholders hoping for enough to get them over the line. They obviously all say no and the word gets out.
Bottomley has locked up a sizeable wedge (I think that is the Essex word) of Curran and Rose's capital in a client account with a law firm that MIGHT be transferred. Existing shareholders have received nothing so far.
In the meantime, the PR that Curran is getting as a man who owns a £2.1m mansion in Ingatestone, Essex and drives a £300k Rolls Royce Culinan without having ever seemingly had a job is getting people to ask questions.
Rose - his compadre - is also tied up with John Radford the Mansfield owner (Google: Mansfield Town Barnby Moor) and Rose's son Oliver works directly for Radford.
There are so many failures and conflicts of interests it does make you wonder how the EFL haven't just thrown them out.
Bottomley will not be a popular man when this all goes south. Something Hasbro and Dale have found out to their cost already and I suspect Curran and Rose are just wakening too..... |
RAFC you are amazing luvvie..
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/fa-probes-c |  | | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:00 - Aug 8 with 2366 views | AndyH |
Find below a number of addresses that you may find useful and please, just jot down a few lines to these people to make them aware of the potential injustice on the cards here. If each one of us sends a letter then it may make them take notice. No one on this forum likes to mention bury and their demise, but if we ALL don't take a stance against these imposters to our game and our club then we we will be the bury of the future. This is our club!
#UpthedaleNotforsale
Sir Tony Lloyd MP
23 The Wheatsheaf,
Baillie St,
Rochdale
OL16 1JZ
Sir Tony Lloyd MP
House of Commons,
London.
SW1A 0AA
mailto:Tony.lloyd.mp@parliament.uk
Chris Clarkson MP
House of Commons,
London.
SW1A 0AA
mailto:Chris.clarkson.mp@parliament.uk
Rick Parry (Chair)
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Trevor Birch (Chief Executive)
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Debbie Jevans CBE
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Andy Burnham (Mayor)
GMCA
Tootal Buildings,
56 Oxford St,
Manchester.
M1 6EU |  | | |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:04 - Aug 8 with 2351 views | D_Alien |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:00 - Aug 8 by AndyH |
Find below a number of addresses that you may find useful and please, just jot down a few lines to these people to make them aware of the potential injustice on the cards here. If each one of us sends a letter then it may make them take notice. No one on this forum likes to mention bury and their demise, but if we ALL don't take a stance against these imposters to our game and our club then we we will be the bury of the future. This is our club!
#UpthedaleNotforsale
Sir Tony Lloyd MP
23 The Wheatsheaf,
Baillie St,
Rochdale
OL16 1JZ
Sir Tony Lloyd MP
House of Commons,
London.
SW1A 0AA
mailto:Tony.lloyd.mp@parliament.uk
Chris Clarkson MP
House of Commons,
London.
SW1A 0AA
mailto:Chris.clarkson.mp@parliament.uk
Rick Parry (Chair)
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Trevor Birch (Chief Executive)
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Debbie Jevans CBE
EFL House,
10-12 West Cliff,
Preston,
PR1 8HU
Andy Burnham (Mayor)
GMCA
Tootal Buildings,
56 Oxford St,
Manchester.
M1 6EU |
Are you related to Marjorie Plane? | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:05 - Aug 8 with 2343 views | AndyH |
Who? | | | |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:07 - Aug 8 with 2317 views | D_Alien |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:05 - Aug 8 by AndyH |
Who? |
A poster who posted the same post in half a dozen threads, when one would suffice
...which you'd know if you've been taking any notice of the threads you've actually posted into | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:11 - Aug 8 with 2283 views | AndyH |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:07 - Aug 8 by D_Alien |
A poster who posted the same post in half a dozen threads, when one would suffice
...which you'd know if you've been taking any notice of the threads you've actually posted into |
I'm just doing my bit for the club... I just want to help and to encourage people to write in that's all... I'm not related to, nor know Marjorie Plane to answer your question | | | |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:14 - Aug 8 with 2263 views | D_Alien |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:11 - Aug 8 by AndyH |
I'm just doing my bit for the club... I just want to help and to encourage people to write in that's all... I'm not related to, nor know Marjorie Plane to answer your question |
Posting those addresses once would be "doing your bit"
Stuffing them into multiple threads is just annoying because messageboarders will open them in the expectation of reading something different, thus wasting their time | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:19 - Aug 8 with 2239 views | AndyH |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:14 - Aug 8 by D_Alien |
Posting those addresses once would be "doing your bit"
Stuffing them into multiple threads is just annoying because messageboarders will open them in the expectation of reading something different, thus wasting their time |
I appreciate your feedback, thanks | | | |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:20 - Aug 8 with 2227 views | D_Alien |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:19 - Aug 8 by AndyH |
I appreciate your feedback, thanks |
I've also written to our MP, three weeks ago
You're welcome | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:21 - Aug 8 with 2213 views | AndyH |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:20 - Aug 8 by D_Alien |
I've also written to our MP, three weeks ago
You're welcome |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 16:34 - Aug 8 with 2067 views | SuddenLad |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 15:14 - Aug 8 by D_Alien |
Posting those addresses once would be "doing your bit"
Stuffing them into multiple threads is just annoying because messageboarders will open them in the expectation of reading something different, thus wasting their time |
I'm not annoyed.
The message needs repeating at every opportunity. Not everyone reads every single post. The information provided is useful to whoever chooses to get involved and for those who only read selected posts.
Keep it up Andy H. You're doing an amazing job for OUR club. |  |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 17:01 - Aug 8 with 2011 views | D_Alien |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 16:34 - Aug 8 by SuddenLad |
I'm not annoyed.
The message needs repeating at every opportunity. Not everyone reads every single post. The information provided is useful to whoever chooses to get involved and for those who only read selected posts.
Keep it up Andy H. You're doing an amazing job for OUR club. |
Neither was i "annoyed" ...
It certainly increases the digital footprint of the anti-takeover campaign (which i understand to be the intention), as long as it's not something that gets repeated by all and sundry with the same intention, which would then become ridiculous | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 18:40 - Aug 8 with 1825 views | boromat |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 17:01 - Aug 8 by D_Alien |
Neither was i "annoyed" ...
It certainly increases the digital footprint of the anti-takeover campaign (which i understand to be the intention), as long as it's not something that gets repeated by all and sundry with the same intention, which would then become ridiculous |
Could you post that on the other threads just to make sure?   | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 18:47 - Aug 8 with 1810 views | RAFCBLUE |
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/fa-probes-c
However, Mr Jarvis said the takeover deal was '100 per cent going ahead'.
He has to be the only one right? How can someone legitimately call a conversation where someone uses a homophobic term "heated".
The FA term is "discriminatory" and the legal term is "unlawful"
I'm very surprised that the EFL have not just got on with it and referred Andy Curran to the police under the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Perhaps they already have?
What was perpetuated is a hate crime with various witnesses - can't be any clearer than that. | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 19:12 - Aug 8 with 1758 views | boromat |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 18:47 - Aug 8 by RAFCBLUE |
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/fa-probes-c
However, Mr Jarvis said the takeover deal was '100 per cent going ahead'.
He has to be the only one right? How can someone legitimately call a conversation where someone uses a homophobic term "heated".
The FA term is "discriminatory" and the legal term is "unlawful"
I'm very surprised that the EFL have not just got on with it and referred Andy Curran to the police under the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Perhaps they already have?
What was perpetuated is a hate crime with various witnesses - can't be any clearer than that. |
I'm not 100% convinced by the EFL messages so far. | |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 19:27 - Aug 8 with 1718 views | D_Alien |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 19:12 - Aug 8 by boromat |
I'm not 100% convinced by the EFL messages so far. |
Indeed
It's as if the EFL are bending over backwards to try to accommodate those with dubious intentions rather than making it clear that anything other than straight-dealing immediate proof of funding gained by easily-proven legitimate means is the only criterion by which the F&P ownership test can be passed
Any other attempts to gain ownership of a club should be dismissed until such time as those conditions are met - and that wouldn't happen overnight. Instead, the EFL seem to have taken the burden of proving someone ISN'T Fit & proper upon themselves, which i'd suggest they have neither the time or resources to do
Were it not for the work undertaken by Dale fans in providing so much relevant information regarding those trying to acquire ownership of our club, i very much doubt they'd have managed to fulfil their own remit (and they haven't, as yet). They've failed to do so with other clubs with dire consequences
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 20:31 - Aug 8 with 1601 views | Nafelad |
| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 19:27 - Aug 8 by D_Alien |
Indeed
It's as if the EFL are bending over backwards to try to accommodate those with dubious intentions rather than making it clear that anything other than straight-dealing immediate proof of funding gained by easily-proven legitimate means is the only criterion by which the F&P ownership test can be passed
Any other attempts to gain ownership of a club should be dismissed until such time as those conditions are met - and that wouldn't happen overnight. Instead, the EFL seem to have taken the burden of proving someone ISN'T Fit & proper upon themselves, which i'd suggest they have neither the time or resources to do
Were it not for the work undertaken by Dale fans in providing so much relevant information regarding those trying to acquire ownership of our club, i very much doubt they'd have managed to fulfil their own remit (and they haven't, as yet). They've failed to do so with other clubs with dire consequences
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Totally agree with this.
It's time the EFL really 'got their act together'. |  |
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| EFL receive formal complaint against potential investors from RAFC on 20:34 - Aug 8 with 1596 views | James1980 |
Probably worth sending the dossier to these folk as well | |
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