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Kane or Kakay 13:27 - Apr 19 with 39308 viewsQPR99

Not the biggest fan of Kane for obvious reasons, but looking at Kakay's recent games I wonder if he should be back starting.

Apparently Kakay lost the ball 'once every 2.5 touches and once every 4.5 minutes' against Boro. Completed only 57% of his 37 passes. I remember hearing Warbs say something before that this is how it works when building a team from younger players, that they do make mistakes but it gives experience and creates a better team. Which is so evident from Willock who i think has become one of our best players from his game time this season.

So... Kakay or Kane?
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Kane or Kakay on 13:42 - Apr 19 with 7543 viewsMatch82

If we expect to be mid table next year then let's spend another year developing Kakay. If we expect to be pushing for promotion then I don't think he's a weak link currently. If Kane hasn't burnt his bridges within the squad then he's a better option but not enough that we don't still need an upgrade
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Kane or Kakay on 13:49 - Apr 19 with 7514 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

I think Kane is a more effective player than Kakay but both players tend to give the ball away a lot. When Kane is on his game he’s a very decent championship player. Kakay has not had a very good season for me but is useful and willing. If Adomah is now starting ahead of Kane then it seems likely the little weasel is on his way out.
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Kane or Kakay on 13:56 - Apr 19 with 7480 viewsJigsore

it didn't sound like he had a great game but to be fair at this level you won't really find many tougher players to defend against than Bolasie

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Kane or Kakay on 14:53 - Apr 19 with 7351 viewsderbyhoop

Are we trying to protect Todd Kane, so we don't jeopardise that 13m bid from Sheffield United?

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Kane or Kakay on 15:37 - Apr 19 with 7269 viewsdmm

I marginally prefer Kakay to Kane but think we need to improve that position for the new season. So I hope we can bring in a new RB/RWB, keep Kakay as cover and offload Kane.
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Kane or Kakay on 17:24 - Apr 19 with 7161 viewsOldPedro

Kane or Kakay on 13:42 - Apr 19 by Match82

If we expect to be mid table next year then let's spend another year developing Kakay. If we expect to be pushing for promotion then I don't think he's a weak link currently. If Kane hasn't burnt his bridges within the squad then he's a better option but not enough that we don't still need an upgrade


Kakay only has about 60 professional appearances, so still lots of room for development assuming that a player needs 100 games that we have seen with others such as Eze, Chair etc

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Kane or Kakay on 17:29 - Apr 19 with 7140 viewshantssi

Kane or Kakay on 15:37 - Apr 19 by dmm

I marginally prefer Kakay to Kane but think we need to improve that position for the new season. So I hope we can bring in a new RB/RWB, keep Kakay as cover and offload Kane.


Agreed, think we’ll be able to do a lot with £13M in this economic climate 😜
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Kane or Kakay on 17:54 - Apr 19 with 7109 viewsqpr_1968

Kane or Kakay on 15:37 - Apr 19 by dmm

I marginally prefer Kakay to Kane but think we need to improve that position for the new season. So I hope we can bring in a new RB/RWB, keep Kakay as cover and offload Kane.


prefer kane, just, but makes sense to keep kakay for cover, or with drastic improvement, a permanent in that position.

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Kane or Kakay on 18:01 - Apr 19 with 7093 viewsAntti_Heinola

It's a pretty prolonged punishment of Kane now. Is Warbs going to move him on this summer?

Bare bones.

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Kane or Kakay on 18:07 - Apr 19 with 7081 viewsDorse

There's a lot to like in both their games but I think there is more to come from Kakay. With Kane, I think we are unlikely to see any more significant development, other than consistency. If he can play his best game more often, he's a good selection. Don't sack off Kakay - he's the mid / long term bet and has the chops to go on to be a key player down the line.

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Kane or Kakay on 19:13 - Apr 19 with 6996 viewsDavieQPR

Kakay is now 23 but, to me, has shown no sign of improving on being an average lower Championship player. But he has a contract until 2024.
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Kane or Kakay on 19:49 - Apr 19 with 6938 viewsNed_Kennedys

Kane or Kakay on 19:13 - Apr 19 by DavieQPR

Kakay is now 23 but, to me, has shown no sign of improving on being an average lower Championship player. But he has a contract until 2024.


Kane is better than Kakay starting at Wing Back: no real comparison IMO. Kakay is useful on the bench as he can cover a few positions at the back.
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Kane or Kakay on 21:13 - Apr 19 with 6841 viewsdaveB

Kakay looks better as a centre half than a full back so out of the 2 at right wing back I'd go for Kane
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Kane or Kakay on 21:49 - Apr 19 with 6797 viewsThGrimRanger

neither

don't want to be negative as the squad is great at the moment but if we are to make a push for the playoffs next year then new full backs should be our priority. Wallace has been great this calendar year but he's coming to the end of his contract.

I worry that Kane and Kakay (and Hamalainen for that matter) aren't on the same level as the rest of the squad. They also have long contracts.

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Kane or Kakay on 23:18 - Apr 19 with 6678 viewsenfieldargh

Think Kakay has great potential but needs game time to improve. I'd stick him in as wing back for the last games, Bolasie caused him all sorts of problems much like Aguero did to Darnell.

OKK has shown he has great ball control, can cross, can tackle. Needs to work on positioning and concentration.

Never been a fan of Kane but he did improve greatly this season until interviewgate

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Kane or Kakay on 08:16 - Apr 20 with 6593 viewsgazza1

I am a Kakay fan, I am also a bit disappointed that he does not appear to have improved greatly over the season.

Despite that, and depending on availability of others, I think he will start.

I think Kane is in the 'bad books' and may be sold in the summer.
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Kane or Kakay on 10:10 - Apr 20 with 6538 viewssimmo

I appreciate it's all easier said than done but I think the ideal scenario for next season is to sell Kane, loan Niko to league 1 for a full season, give Wallace a year on reduced terms and then sign a more orthodox RWB & LWB.

Again there's a lot to have to swallow there but Niko isn't good enough atm and neither is Kakay, but the latter is not far away and v useful as he can play multiple positions/systems and is always up for it. Kane will struggle to come back in front of crowds and even so, he's decent on his day but those aren't often enough - if we can get a fee then I'd take it. Wallace has been great since the new year, but he can't be relied upon, I'm getting big Matt Rose energy from him too.

There are enough teams throughout the leagues that are playing a wing back system that we will have options to find a more specialist player. I think we missed the boat with a few already in January, but hopefully the summer is when we get it right. Along with up front, these positions are the most important to make this system work, so let's go for it.

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Kane or Kakay on 11:01 - Apr 20 with 6496 viewsLazyFan

Kane or Kakay on 10:10 - Apr 20 by simmo

I appreciate it's all easier said than done but I think the ideal scenario for next season is to sell Kane, loan Niko to league 1 for a full season, give Wallace a year on reduced terms and then sign a more orthodox RWB & LWB.

Again there's a lot to have to swallow there but Niko isn't good enough atm and neither is Kakay, but the latter is not far away and v useful as he can play multiple positions/systems and is always up for it. Kane will struggle to come back in front of crowds and even so, he's decent on his day but those aren't often enough - if we can get a fee then I'd take it. Wallace has been great since the new year, but he can't be relied upon, I'm getting big Matt Rose energy from him too.

There are enough teams throughout the leagues that are playing a wing back system that we will have options to find a more specialist player. I think we missed the boat with a few already in January, but hopefully the summer is when we get it right. Along with up front, these positions are the most important to make this system work, so let's go for it.


Agree with this.

I think Kakay will improve. This is his first full season. Means also we do not need to sign another CB after we sign the Dutchie.

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Kane or Kakay on 14:35 - Apr 20 with 6384 viewsmcqpr10

I actually think we miss Kane's energy down the right, and he does add an attacking dimension even if he does shank plenty of crosses. Really want Kakay to do well but everytime I watch him he doesn't impress at all and i think if he weren't a youth product we wouldn't be as supportive of him.
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Kane or Kakay on 21:45 - Apr 20 with 6284 viewsBlackCrowe

Kane or Kakay on 14:35 - Apr 20 by mcqpr10

I actually think we miss Kane's energy down the right, and he does add an attacking dimension even if he does shank plenty of crosses. Really want Kakay to do well but everytime I watch him he doesn't impress at all and i think if he weren't a youth product we wouldn't be as supportive of him.


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Kane or Kakay on 21:49 - Apr 20 with 6249 viewsdaveB

Kane or Kakay on 18:01 - Apr 19 by Antti_Heinola

It's a pretty prolonged punishment of Kane now. Is Warbs going to move him on this summer?


It's can't be due to the interview, something must have happened behind the scenes, maybe a fall out from it but what he said whilst it being a bit stupid is not really worthy of being dropped for this long
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Kane or Kakay on 21:51 - Apr 20 with 6231 viewsgazza1

Kane or Kakay on 21:45 - Apr 20 by BlackCrowe

Osman was all over the place today, not his finest hour.


Harsh.......he gets involved in a lot of things during the 90 minutes. Tonight we played very well as a team and it was good viewing as far as I am concerned. Stick with him.
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Kane or Kakay on 21:54 - Apr 20 with 6214 viewspaulparker

Kane or Kakay on 21:49 - Apr 20 by daveB

It's can't be due to the interview, something must have happened behind the scenes, maybe a fall out from it but what he said whilst it being a bit stupid is not really worthy of being dropped for this long


From what I’ve heard Kane and Warbs have had a right ding dong , Also been told Kane is being sold to Cardiff

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Kane or Kakay on 21:55 - Apr 20 with 6208 viewsjoolsyp

As an attacking RWB I've always liked Nathan Byrne since his Swindon days. Cheeky bid if WRDC go down? I don't think Albert can do the defensive duties of a RWB, he's more of an orthodox winger for me.

LWB I liked Ryan Giles for Rotherham ...

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Kane or Kakay on 21:56 - Apr 20 with 6194 viewsgazza1

Kane or Kakay on 21:54 - Apr 20 by paulparker

From what I’ve heard Kane and Warbs have had a right ding dong , Also been told Kane is being sold to Cardiff


MW would not be pleased with the matter, for sure.....not surprised that he is not playing and would not be surprised if he left in the Summer. MW is a team man.
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