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European super league 15:28 - Apr 18 with 61051 viewsqpr_1968

can anyone see it taking off.
talks of 6 clubs from the premier.
on sky news now.

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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European super league on 15:07 - Apr 22 with 2423 viewsRanger_Things

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN955jJDSmO/?igshid=1jp1womup9nn4
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European super league on 15:36 - Apr 22 with 2371 viewsRanger_Things

European super league on 14:48 - Apr 22 by Juzzie

It's not so much them leaving for the €$£ that bothers me, it's how it the FA/PL react. Do not allow them to compete in any UK competitions alongside the ESL and if they wish to return they have to enter at a lower level and work their way up.

IMO I don't think it should stop players playing for their national country. The players shouldn't be penalised, they are employees of the club and it the club making the decision.


Exactly. The players would be under contract presumably unab le to leave even if they wanted to.
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European super league on 16:32 - Apr 22 with 2285 viewsEsox_Lucius

There is a disturbing Tweet regarding the money behind the scenes, and it goes a lot further than football.

The grass is always greener.

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European super league on 17:42 - Apr 22 with 2193 viewsTGRRRSSS

Perez and Real are presumably in big big trouble, the problem is how can it not be dead in the waye - if the clubs do it again then surely that would be it.

I feel some punishment is warranted but it's annoying everyone is now calling for calm and measured approach.... funny that.


Anyone know Man United's current debt?

Last I read it was well down on what it once was.

My favourite idea is to punish ring leaders Real Madrid, Man United and Liverpool by UEFA and co as a warning to everyone else, points deduction and £200 Million fine each - not so much when you consider the fine we got for FFP.
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European super league on 18:07 - Apr 22 with 2157 viewsBrianMcCarthy

I'd be more interested in strengthening the rules of the FIFA, UEFA and the National FA's to make sure this doesn't happen again. It's very hard to engineer ironclad rules, but every attempt should be made to make them as stringent and structurally sound as possible, and to do it now while public opinion is high.

"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
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European super league on 20:53 - Apr 22 with 2041 viewsEsox_Lucius

European super league on 16:32 - Apr 22 by Esox_Lucius

There is a disturbing Tweet regarding the money behind the scenes, and it goes a lot further than football.


Apologies, this Tweet goes on for another 7-8 Tweets where the football side of it is exposed.

The grass is always greener.

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European super league on 21:12 - Apr 22 with 2012 viewsBucksRanger

European super league on 20:53 - Apr 22 by Esox_Lucius

Apologies, this Tweet goes on for another 7-8 Tweets where the football side of it is exposed.


Read the lot. Very interesting.
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European super league on 13:24 - Apr 23 with 1864 viewsTGRRRSSS

What they should have done was ask the old Rivals owners what happened to their business when they took over, announced wholse sale changes with a high handed "you'll do as I say" attitude and you'll like it as well.


I believe eventually it closed down.

Something Norf will know doubt remember and tell us more about one day..
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European super league on 14:21 - Apr 23 with 1791 viewsQPR_John

JP Morgan have now issued a statement

"JP Morgan, the financial backers of the doomed Super League, say they misjudged the proposals and have vowed to learn from the reaction of supporters."

Looks nots so much a case of one goes followed by a dominoes effect more like they all put a combined plan together.
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European super league on 14:49 - Apr 23 with 1759 viewsJuzzie

European super league on 14:21 - Apr 23 by QPR_John

JP Morgan have now issued a statement

"JP Morgan, the financial backers of the doomed Super League, say they misjudged the proposals and have vowed to learn from the reaction of supporters."

Looks nots so much a case of one goes followed by a dominoes effect more like they all put a combined plan together.


"vowed to learn" - yeah right, that old chesnut.
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European super league on 15:09 - Apr 23 with 1717 viewsMatch82

In terms of how we react we all know the premier league is going to cave, so the FA needs to do something symbolic and meaningful. Banned from the FA cup for five years, something like that. The big clubs demean that anyway and it would open up the competition and European qualifying spot to being much more competitive.
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European super league on 16:26 - Apr 23 with 1667 viewsMatch82

Edit: double post
[Post edited 23 Apr 2021 16:26]
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European super league on 17:05 - Apr 23 with 1612 viewsSimplyNico

I am surprised that an investment bank's Risk or PR teams allowed the word "doomed".
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European super league on 07:53 - Apr 24 with 1517 viewstoboboly

I see that Moyes has called for a PL2 and Parry wants to revisit Project Big Picture. These people need shooting.

Sexy Asian dwarves wanted.

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European super league on 08:46 - Apr 24 with 1466 viewsdavman

European super league on 16:11 - Apr 21 by PinnerPaul

EFL statement - interesting. Addresses the point Clive made in his preview - the PL is part of the problem, not the solution!

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/april/efl-statement-european-super-league2/


Thanks for posting that Paul. It is the best statement to come out of the EFL that I can remember. There is still the remote possibility that they will surprise me, but the real test is how they follow up on this.

If they were really part of a football "family", they would be able to seek more of an equitable share of the riches, but the Big 6 and the current (temporary) hangers on in the Prem will continue to maximise their income ignoring the long term damage to the members of their oh-so-all-important pyramid the current arrangements promote.

They have as much chance of reform as I do for playing for QPR.







(Just so that you are clear, due to metal plates in both legs, being 50 and never being much cop, that's ZERO chance just in case you weren't clear...).

Can we go out yet?
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European super league on 09:14 - Apr 24 with 1441 viewsNorthantsHoop

It does make me laugh, some of the so called big 6 clubs fans demonstrating wanting their clubs back. That boat sailed long ago for top level clubs and football in general with the explosion of players salaries, TV rights, betting, sponsorship, obscene transfer fees to name just a few. It is very hard to put the genie back in the bottle, I'm at a loss to see how football finance will ever change. Still anyway onto the Norwich game this afternoon - COYRsss.
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European super league on 23:15 - Apr 24 with 1270 viewsRanger_Things

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/24/perez-says-super-league-clubs-c
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European super league on 23:36 - Apr 24 with 1244 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

European super league on 23:15 - Apr 24 by Ranger_Things

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/24/perez-says-super-league-clubs-c


"Project" will "Move Forward" - Perez

Is that the most persuasive argument he can come up with...

Is this a revolution in football led by one man? On his own?

Poll: Expectations for this season?

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European super league on 23:45 - Apr 24 with 1225 viewsRanger_Things

One way or another I think a European Super League is inevitable. Most likely with changes to the Champions League.
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European super league on 00:32 - Apr 25 with 1180 viewsCliveWilsonSaid

European super league on 23:45 - Apr 24 by Ranger_Things

One way or another I think a European Super League is inevitable. Most likely with changes to the Champions League.


It’s inevitable why?

Poll: Expectations for this season?

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European super league on 00:45 - Apr 25 with 1167 viewsRanger_Things

European super league on 00:32 - Apr 25 by CliveWilsonSaid

It’s inevitable why?


Because the clubs want to wring every last penny out of the game. Playing Real, Barca, Juventus etc twice every season with renegotiated TV and streaming rights is the way to do it. Euro qualifying rounds, draws against smaller clubs and 95%of domestic games don’t bring in the same worldwide revenue as the European ‘glamour ties’.
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European super league on 01:13 - Apr 25 with 2336 viewsBoston

European super league on 00:45 - Apr 25 by Ranger_Things

Because the clubs want to wring every last penny out of the game. Playing Real, Barca, Juventus etc twice every season with renegotiated TV and streaming rights is the way to do it. Euro qualifying rounds, draws against smaller clubs and 95%of domestic games don’t bring in the same worldwide revenue as the European ‘glamour ties’.


The 'Supply and Demand' model does not work if there is no demand.

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European super league on 12:48 - Apr 25 with 2166 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Hilarious how the fans of the Big Five (and Spurs) are so against points deductions because it "punishes the fans" even though the fans of every smaller club who has suffered points deductions have been punished in this way.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/25/just-relegate-them-fans-discuss
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European super league on 13:05 - Apr 25 with 2144 viewsqpr_1968

if the big six want to play more games per season, stick them all in the preliminary rounds of the fa cup, starting in august....could be part of a punishment i suppose.

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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European super league on 13:43 - Apr 25 with 2107 viewsManinBlack

It might just be that all the clubs involved knew that their were proposals to increase the amount of games with the new CL format. They all oppose that prospect so they want a league of their own to play each other as worth far more commercially. Far more money in AC Milan playing Real Madrid twice a season than Real playing Alaves or Young Boys.

It is rather like fans wanting only to see international matches between England and Germany rather than England v San Marino in bigger tournaments. On that basis the owners of the 12 have a case. It is the closed shop that has scuppered their plans.
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