| Fans allowed back 15:21 - Nov 23 with 19271 views | dalenumber2 |
Breaking news: A maximum of 4,000 fans are to be allowed at outdoor events in the lowest-risk areas when the national lockdown in England ends on 2 December, so BBC Sport understands. Probably not us then! |  | | |  |
| Fans allowed back on 21:17 - Nov 27 with 2108 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Fans allowed back on 20:29 - Nov 27 by nordenblue |
Your week starts on a Friday riddler? |
Drinking week runs from fri teatime to sun teatime |  |
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| Fans allowed back on 21:20 - Nov 27 with 2106 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Fans allowed back on 20:39 - Nov 27 by isitme |
It said in the notes that Pennie Trust and Manchester University Hospitals had a high number of patients, but I suppose they always do considering the areas they serve. What is probably a more accurate measure is demand above the usual. We do have a Nightingale hospital (presumably sitting empty) for 'Covid patients'. |
But no staff to run them | |
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| Fans allowed back on 21:23 - Nov 27 with 2091 views | nordenblue |
Quite a decent watch, but how the hell have the club spent £50k on making the ground the go to phrase of "covid safe" seems a tad heavy |  | | |
| Fans allowed back on 21:24 - Nov 27 with 2090 views | TVOS1907 |
| Fans allowed back on 21:17 - Nov 27 by rochdaleriddler |
Drinking week runs from fri teatime to sun teatime |
Which Sunday? |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Fans allowed back on 21:57 - Nov 27 with 2040 views | isitme |
| Fans allowed back on 21:20 - Nov 27 by rochdaleriddler |
But no staff to run them |
As they are off as one if their kids is off school due to the year group bubble bursting! |  | | |
| Fans allowed back on 10:38 - Nov 28 with 1915 views | dingdangblue |
| Fans allowed back on 21:23 - Nov 27 by nordenblue |
Quite a decent watch, but how the hell have the club spent £50k on making the ground the go to phrase of "covid safe" seems a tad heavy |
He’s probably using some artistic licence and lumping in the cost of going ticketless as being a covid safe measure - that would add a few quid to the numbers. |  |
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| Fans allowed back on 10:53 - Nov 28 with 1908 views | James1980 |
| Fans allowed back on 10:38 - Nov 28 by dingdangblue |
He’s probably using some artistic licence and lumping in the cost of going ticketless as being a covid safe measure - that would add a few quid to the numbers. |
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Sanitiser dispensers & sanitiser
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Paying a covid safe consultants, fees.
What else is needed to make a venue Covid safe? | |
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| Fans allowed back on 12:24 - Nov 28 with 1840 views | blackdogblue |
| Fans allowed back on 10:53 - Nov 28 by James1980 |
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Sanitiser dispensers & sanitiser
Signage
Paying a covid safe consultants, fees.
What else is needed to make a venue Covid safe? |
Matt Hancock’s resignation? |  |
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| Fans allowed back on 13:18 - Nov 28 with 1784 views | nordenblue |
| Fans allowed back on 10:53 - Nov 28 by James1980 |
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Sanitiser dispensers & sanitiser
Signage
Paying a covid safe consultants, fees.
What else is needed to make a venue Covid safe? |
Apparently around £50k should do the trick.....or maybe he's been really forward thinking in all this and bought a shit load of vaccines for anyone wanting to enter the stadium. | | | |
| Fans allowed back on 14:30 - Nov 28 with 1740 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Fans allowed back on 21:24 - Nov 27 by TVOS1907 |
Which Sunday? |
Every Sunday ! | |
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| Fans allowed back on 14:32 - Nov 28 with 1735 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Fans allowed back on 21:57 - Nov 27 by isitme |
As they are off as one if their kids is off school due to the year group bubble bursting! |
No staff allocated to the Noghtingales, each hospital sending patients there has to organise their own team from existing resources | |
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| Fans allowed back on 10:07 - Nov 29 with 1552 views | rochdaleriddler |
Sunday Times today ‘ Andy Burnham has been told greater Manchester will drop a tier on 19 dec’ let’s hope so | |
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| Fans allowed back on 12:17 - Nov 29 with 1484 views | 442Dale |
| Fans allowed back on 10:07 - Nov 29 by rochdaleriddler |
Sunday Times today ‘ Andy Burnham has been told greater Manchester will drop a tier on 19 dec’ let’s hope so |
In that interview earlier in the thread it sounds like the club will announce the plans in advance of that date, so if the tiers do change we will all know what the situation is re. tickets available and how it’ll be managed on the day. |  |
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| Fans allowed back on 12:19 - Nov 29 with 1480 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Fans allowed back on 14:32 - Nov 28 by rochdaleriddler |
No staff allocated to the Noghtingales, each hospital sending patients there has to organise their own team from existing resources |
Yet private hospitals are being paid for patients they have not even treated. Wonder who the owners of those hospitals support politically ? |  |
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| Fans allowed back on 12:37 - Nov 29 with 1460 views | James1980 |
| Fans allowed back on 12:19 - Nov 29 by foreverhopefulDale |
Yet private hospitals are being paid for patients they have not even treated. Wonder who the owners of those hospitals support politically ? |
That's not red mist is it?  | |
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| Fans allowed back on 12:49 - Nov 29 with 1445 views | Dalenet |
| Fans allowed back on 12:19 - Nov 29 by foreverhopefulDale |
Yet private hospitals are being paid for patients they have not even treated. Wonder who the owners of those hospitals support politically ? |
It is incompetence. If you pay for services and fail to send the patients ........ shocking incompetence of the local management teams. You can't blame the private hospitals who will have blocked out their capacity. During the initial wave of the pandemic the private patients couldn't get access to the hospitals that they pay hundreds of pounds a month for in insurance premiums as the Govt requisitioned them. Its a two way street | | | |
| Fans allowed back on 13:11 - Nov 29 with 1421 views | isitme |
| Fans allowed back on 12:19 - Nov 29 by foreverhopefulDale |
Yet private hospitals are being paid for patients they have not even treated. Wonder who the owners of those hospitals support politically ? |
I am pretty sure shareholders in these companies will support a wide range of political parties or maybe even none at all.
If you think it through, if you are buying space at private hospitals they cannot then treat any/as many private patients. Obviously they will be paid for this, even if not all the paid for capacity is used. If you book Manchester Central for an event you don't get money back if not as many people attend as you expect. | | | |
| Fans allowed back on 13:31 - Nov 29 with 1399 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Fans allowed back on 12:49 - Nov 29 by Dalenet |
It is incompetence. If you pay for services and fail to send the patients ........ shocking incompetence of the local management teams. You can't blame the private hospitals who will have blocked out their capacity. During the initial wave of the pandemic the private patients couldn't get access to the hospitals that they pay hundreds of pounds a month for in insurance premiums as the Govt requisitioned them. Its a two way street |
Yes it was incompetence by the Government, and there was a shortage of capacity and staff due to all of the cuts over the past 10 years, more incompetence. The private health sector benefited due to those cuts in the public sector, its a false economy to cut the public sectors due to the higher costs then to use the private sectors when capacity is too low in the public sector, total incompetence. Many MPs who were part of the decision making of the last 10 years to cut the NHS, have been found to have been shareholders of these private health companies that have benefited from this. | |
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| Fans allowed back on 13:33 - Nov 29 with 1393 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Fans allowed back on 12:37 - Nov 29 by James1980 |
That's not red mist is it? |
Just the truth. | |
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| Fans allowed back on 13:35 - Nov 29 with 1388 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Fans allowed back on 13:11 - Nov 29 by isitme |
I am pretty sure shareholders in these companies will support a wide range of political parties or maybe even none at all.
If you think it through, if you are buying space at private hospitals they cannot then treat any/as many private patients. Obviously they will be paid for this, even if not all the paid for capacity is used. If you book Manchester Central for an event you don't get money back if not as many people attend as you expect. |
I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave to Dalenet. 😀 | |
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| Fans allowed back on 14:16 - Nov 29 with 1349 views | Dalenet |
| Fans allowed back on 13:31 - Nov 29 by foreverhopefulDale |
Yes it was incompetence by the Government, and there was a shortage of capacity and staff due to all of the cuts over the past 10 years, more incompetence. The private health sector benefited due to those cuts in the public sector, its a false economy to cut the public sectors due to the higher costs then to use the private sectors when capacity is too low in the public sector, total incompetence. Many MPs who were part of the decision making of the last 10 years to cut the NHS, have been found to have been shareholders of these private health companies that have benefited from this. |
Who are these shareholders?
Nuffield and BUPA are two of the biggest and they are not for profit businesses. Nuffield is a charity and BUPA is a member business and the only investors are bond holders that have lent them money for capital investment. There are no shareholders and no dividends are paid as far as I know | | | |
| Fans allowed back on 14:45 - Nov 29 with 1328 views | roccydaleian |
| Fans allowed back on 14:16 - Nov 29 by Dalenet |
Who are these shareholders?
Nuffield and BUPA are two of the biggest and they are not for profit businesses. Nuffield is a charity and BUPA is a member business and the only investors are bond holders that have lent them money for capital investment. There are no shareholders and no dividends are paid as far as I know |
Yes, I’d like to see who these MP’s are as well. I’d also like to know the year the last time the NHS budget was cut? |  | | |
| Fans allowed back on 14:53 - Nov 29 with 1319 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Fans allowed back on 14:16 - Nov 29 by Dalenet |
Who are these shareholders?
Nuffield and BUPA are two of the biggest and they are not for profit businesses. Nuffield is a charity and BUPA is a member business and the only investors are bond holders that have lent them money for capital investment. There are no shareholders and no dividends are paid as far as I know |
There will be profit being made somewhere, in this so called not for profit organisations, and their will be some , non employees making decent money out of them. People who invest in private businesses will want to make money out of them, at some stage, unless of course they are investing in their local football club or similar and just want to support it. And these organisations are set up as so called charities so they can enjoy vat exemptions and any other perks afforded to companies with charitable statuses, as in the educational sectors with so called charity schools. | |
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| Fans allowed back on 14:59 - Nov 29 with 1303 views | roccydaleian |
| Fans allowed back on 14:53 - Nov 29 by foreverhopefulDale |
There will be profit being made somewhere, in this so called not for profit organisations, and their will be some , non employees making decent money out of them. People who invest in private businesses will want to make money out of them, at some stage, unless of course they are investing in their local football club or similar and just want to support it. And these organisations are set up as so called charities so they can enjoy vat exemptions and any other perks afforded to companies with charitable statuses, as in the educational sectors with so called charity schools. |
Not an answer to Dalenet’s question . | | | |
| Fans allowed back on 15:07 - Nov 29 with 1295 views | foreverhopefulDale |
| Fans allowed back on 14:45 - Nov 29 by roccydaleian |
Yes, I’d like to see who these MP’s are as well. I’d also like to know the year the last time the NHS budget was cut? |
All in public records. The cut, in the sense that rises haven’t matched inflation. | |
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