| Football Finances on 22:25 - Mar 5 with 6028 views | majorraglan |
Crazy money, but for Wolves it got them to the PL where they have done well and secured a second season. Derby is a different story, losing money and wh8lst in with a shot of the play offs, you’d have to say it’s not looking good for a return to the PL and there may be big problems ahead for them.
I am not looking forward to seeing the next set of Swans accounts. |  | |  |
| Football Finances on 22:52 - Mar 5 with 5971 views | Luther27 |
I'll be glad when the ordinary fan wakes up and discovers that the Premiership is the equivalent of the Kings clothes. Every club below the top 6 will more than likely get relegated within 6 to 10 years ending with huge debts. Wolves have spent circa £90 million and Hurrah....another season in the promised land. Do me a favour. Sky money...Sky..this is the best league in the world bullshit.
It's not the promised land...it financially kills clubs...it only maintains the rich few...it divides the fan base to a point where clubs like ours aren't worth anything to them.
Rant over.... | | | |
| Football Finances on 01:05 - Mar 6 with 5881 views | Loyal |
Is earning 60 million more than Swansea this season really enough ? |  |
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| Football Finances on 07:13 - Mar 6 with 5776 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Football Finances on 22:25 - Mar 5 by majorraglan |
Crazy money, but for Wolves it got them to the PL where they have done well and secured a second season. Derby is a different story, losing money and wh8lst in with a shot of the play offs, you’d have to say it’s not looking good for a return to the PL and there may be big problems ahead for them.
I am not looking forward to seeing the next set of Swans accounts. |
Good job the people at the top in our club were fans ....... oh hang on .... |  |
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| Football Finances on 07:40 - Mar 6 with 5742 views | trinityann |
Why can't football clubs bank £20 million premier league money every season and adjust the budget accordingly. If you can't afford a player, move on to a budget where players are willing to join your club. When your buying players, you should not be spreading payments over 4 or 5 years. If you can't afford the transfer with cash straight away, you can't afford the transfer. Look at Ajax team last night and how many come through the youth system, football is not all about spending your way out of trouble.
There are better housewives out there running the household bills that will do a better job at running a football club. | | | |
| Football Finances on 09:25 - Mar 6 with 5632 views | Dr_Winston |
| Football Finances on 07:40 - Mar 6 by trinityann |
Why can't football clubs bank £20 million premier league money every season and adjust the budget accordingly. If you can't afford a player, move on to a budget where players are willing to join your club. When your buying players, you should not be spreading payments over 4 or 5 years. If you can't afford the transfer with cash straight away, you can't afford the transfer. Look at Ajax team last night and how many come through the youth system, football is not all about spending your way out of trouble.
There are better housewives out there running the household bills that will do a better job at running a football club. |
Because fans will bitch and moan about their clubs and owners not showing enough "ambition"?
Supporters bear a fair portion of the blame when it comes to clubs overspending and getting themselves in the shit. You never hear about them complaining that clubs are spending too much. Only too little. |  |
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| Football Finances on 10:01 - Mar 6 with 5560 views | Luther27 |
| Football Finances on 09:25 - Mar 6 by Dr_Winston |
Because fans will bitch and moan about their clubs and owners not showing enough "ambition"?
Supporters bear a fair portion of the blame when it comes to clubs overspending and getting themselves in the shit. You never hear about them complaining that clubs are spending too much. Only too little. |
Sums it up well and truly. | | | |
| Football Finances on 10:14 - Mar 6 with 5534 views | airedale |
Got to laugh when you hear the terms ‘ambition’ and ‘investment’ when talking about football. Football entrepreneurs make football fans ‘ambitious’ and craving ‘investment’ so they can make more money.
It’s like soap manufacturers getting folk running around in their showers everyday pointlessly washing their clean bodies. No wonder people can’t afford to buy houses when marketeers are commandeering all their money. |  | | |
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| Football Finances on 10:47 - Mar 6 with 5497 views | jasper_T |
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| Football Finances on 11:03 - Mar 6 with 5478 views | jdtswan |
Its not just up top, the entire football league in this country will eventually collapse, because of money. Unless something is done about it, as it stands, in 10 years time the whole league system will change, best game in the world destroyed by greed. |  | | |
| Football Finances on 11:25 - Mar 6 with 5441 views | LeonWasGod |
| Football Finances on 10:47 - Mar 6 by jasper_T |
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Just remember that the Americans aim to run us without covering any losses themselves. This is what we're up against. One parachute payments stop, their model is only doable if money from player sales generates anywhere between c. £5-25m per year. Which is going to be exceedingly hard to achieve in its own right, let alone achieve and not seriously affect the quality of the team.
Or in other words, this league is far too rich for them. |  | | |
| Football Finances on 11:51 - Mar 6 with 5409 views | airedale |
| Football Finances on 11:25 - Mar 6 by LeonWasGod |
Just remember that the Americans aim to run us without covering any losses themselves. This is what we're up against. One parachute payments stop, their model is only doable if money from player sales generates anywhere between c. £5-25m per year. Which is going to be exceedingly hard to achieve in its own right, let alone achieve and not seriously affect the quality of the team.
Or in other words, this league is far too rich for them. |
Do Steve and Jason personally own any shares in the Swans? | | | |
| Football Finances on 11:59 - Mar 6 with 5396 views | jasper_T |
| Football Finances on 11:25 - Mar 6 by LeonWasGod |
Just remember that the Americans aim to run us without covering any losses themselves. This is what we're up against. One parachute payments stop, their model is only doable if money from player sales generates anywhere between c. £5-25m per year. Which is going to be exceedingly hard to achieve in its own right, let alone achieve and not seriously affect the quality of the team.
Or in other words, this league is far too rich for them. |
Sometimes the only way to win is to refuse to play the insane money game of the division. It's destroying clubs. | | | |
| Football Finances on 12:07 - Mar 6 with 5379 views | Dr_Winston |
| Football Finances on 11:59 - Mar 6 by jasper_T |
Sometimes the only way to win is to refuse to play the insane money game of the division. It's destroying clubs. |
Like we did last time. Before we forgot how and starting doing it the same way as everyone else, hence the current mess. | |
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| Football Finances on 12:23 - Mar 6 with 5355 views | Loyal |
Its nice to read sensible and well thought out opinions without those two ( or one ) idiots chirping in threatening and bullshitting someone else's agenda. | |
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| Football Finances on 12:58 - Mar 6 with 5303 views | Badlands |
| Football Finances on 11:25 - Mar 6 by LeonWasGod |
Just remember that the Americans aim to run us without covering any losses themselves. This is what we're up against. One parachute payments stop, their model is only doable if money from player sales generates anywhere between c. £5-25m per year. Which is going to be exceedingly hard to achieve in its own right, let alone achieve and not seriously affect the quality of the team.
Or in other words, this league is far too rich for them. |
We were successful and gained promotion from this league without incurring massive debt or the input of personal finance. [Post edited 6 Mar 2019 13:00]
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| Football Finances on 13:58 - Mar 6 with 5222 views | ploppy |
Sadly, I see the whole thing failing eventually unless something's done. If these were "normal" businesses they'd have gone to the wall long ago. It doesn't seem as if FFP is enough. Clubs are willing to bet the farm to get promoted from the Championship. Players' salaries are obscene, as are transfer fees. It's quite disturbing reading @KieranMaguire's twitter. I think it'll take a "big club" going bankrupt before anything will change. Maybe Villa? Bolton? Although they're not quite big enough anymore. | | | |
| Football Finances on 14:00 - Mar 6 with 5220 views | jasper_T |
Villa lost £36m last season. £14.5m the season before.
Need Grealish fit and a bidding war to drive up the price for him, or they're in real FFP trouble. | | | |
| Football Finances on 14:10 - Mar 6 with 5208 views | theloneranger |
| Football Finances on 11:51 - Mar 6 by airedale |
Do Steve and Jason personally own any shares in the Swans? |
Approx 30%, with Steve owning more than Jase. |  |
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| Football Finances on 15:02 - Mar 6 with 5147 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Football Finances on 12:07 - Mar 6 by Dr_Winston |
Like we did last time. Before we forgot how and starting doing it the same way as everyone else, hence the current mess. |
People have really short memories. And i aim that at our own fans.
Maybe the last timewe did it was a one-off. But i have no real issue with the Yanks running us without chucking any personal dough in. Happy for the club to run within its means. But i dont think a significant chunk of our fanbase will be happy with that. We are already hearing the noise about "wheres the money gone" etc. They want us to spend and wrack up debt like there is no tomorrow, whereas the better idea is to plan long term and spend what we can afford. |  |
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| Football Finances on 15:57 - Mar 6 with 5100 views | Loyal |
| Football Finances on 15:02 - Mar 6 by PozuelosSideys |
People have really short memories. And i aim that at our own fans.
Maybe the last timewe did it was a one-off. But i have no real issue with the Yanks running us without chucking any personal dough in. Happy for the club to run within its means. But i dont think a significant chunk of our fanbase will be happy with that. We are already hearing the noise about "wheres the money gone" etc. They want us to spend and wrack up debt like there is no tomorrow, whereas the better idea is to plan long term and spend what we can afford. |
But of course their lack of transparency and openness prevents any sympathy for anything they are doing, or not doing. | |
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| Football Finances on 16:10 - Mar 6 with 5082 views | airedale |
| Football Finances on 14:10 - Mar 6 by theloneranger |
Approx 30%, with Steve owning more than Jase. |
Ta. So the other 38% (of the American interest) will be owned by the 25 or so shareholders that are represented by Steve and Jase. Although none of them will be making much cash from their investment at the moment. Wonder what they reckon the future holds for them with regards to the Swans? | | | |
| Football Finances on 16:22 - Mar 6 with 5075 views | thornabyswan |
| Football Finances on 22:52 - Mar 5 by Luther27 |
I'll be glad when the ordinary fan wakes up and discovers that the Premiership is the equivalent of the Kings clothes. Every club below the top 6 will more than likely get relegated within 6 to 10 years ending with huge debts. Wolves have spent circa £90 million and Hurrah....another season in the promised land. Do me a favour. Sky money...Sky..this is the best league in the world bullshit.
It's not the promised land...it financially kills clubs...it only maintains the rich few...it divides the fan base to a point where clubs like ours aren't worth anything to them.
Rant over.... |
Morgan Jenkins Dineen Cloggs Davies all did nicely out of it though.
Made millions each and shafted the club in the process.
Are we at the next level yet | |
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| Football Finances on 18:12 - Mar 6 with 4976 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Football Finances on 15:57 - Mar 6 by Loyal |
But of course their lack of transparency and openness prevents any sympathy for anything they are doing, or not doing. |
Aye, but the proof is in the pudding though. They have already provided bridging loans (as MM did in the past) and they have stripped out as much cost as possible so far (and i dont appreciate all our players being hawked out either, but thats the situation we find ourselves in). So book balancing basically.
On the flip side we haveHJ and his cohorts banging on with a PR exercise to all and sundry, whilst big chunks of fanbase lap that up and blame the Trust. Lets be clear here, it was the prvious administration who put us in this situation. Not the Yanks, not the Trust.
All the whileour fans our moaning that we are paying Rooneys wages and the owners are engaged in some covert exercises in siphoning case out of the club. Its a mess.
DO NOT LET HJ AND HIS MATES OFF THE HOOK! | |
| "Michu, Britton and Williams could have won 3-0 on their own. They wouldn't have required a keeper." | | Poll: | Hattricks |
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| Football Finances on 22:10 - Mar 6 with 4819 views | Loyal |
| Football Finances on 18:12 - Mar 6 by PozuelosSideys |
Aye, but the proof is in the pudding though. They have already provided bridging loans (as MM did in the past) and they have stripped out as much cost as possible so far (and i dont appreciate all our players being hawked out either, but thats the situation we find ourselves in). So book balancing basically.
On the flip side we haveHJ and his cohorts banging on with a PR exercise to all and sundry, whilst big chunks of fanbase lap that up and blame the Trust. Lets be clear here, it was the prvious administration who put us in this situation. Not the Yanks, not the Trust.
All the whileour fans our moaning that we are paying Rooneys wages and the owners are engaged in some covert exercises in siphoning case out of the club. Its a mess.
DO NOT LET HJ AND HIS MATES OFF THE HOOK! |
But as I said nobody knows if they are balancing the books or not.
I don't take the words of people with questionnable integrity.
Proof required. | |
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