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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh 14:32 - Aug 29 with 7561 viewsthornabyswan

All 3 players have indicated they would like to stay.
Could any be deployed as a central midfielder or back up striker at a push.
[Post edited 29 Aug 2018 14:33]

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:36 - Aug 29 with 4524 viewsWarwickHunt

No.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:41 - Aug 29 with 4488 viewsWhiterockin

We should have let Routledge and Dyer go long ago. Narsingh is inconsistent and just not good enough.

I wonder if one of the reasons they are not making the squad is, that on top of their basic pay the have a large bonus for for making the match day squad and appearances.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:43 - Aug 29 with 4468 viewsBadlands

All three offer more than Asoro and McKay.
Routs did well in central midfield on tour.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:49 - Aug 29 with 4435 viewsthornabyswan

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:43 - Aug 29 by Badlands

All three offer more than Asoro and McKay.
Routs did well in central midfield on tour.


Routeledge in central midfield would be worth a go I think.
Dyer should be starting currently not sure what to make of Narsingh he struggled in the Prem but I think he would
do ok at championship
Not sure why we signed the additional wingers when we are so short in central midfield and up top.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:56 - Aug 29 with 4383 viewsKilkennyjack

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:43 - Aug 29 by Badlands

All three offer more than Asoro and McKay.
Routs did well in central midfield on tour.


100 per cent correct.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:01 - Aug 29 with 4345 viewsthornabyswan

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:56 - Aug 29 by Kilkennyjack

100 per cent correct.


Potter said all 3 will come into contention for selection if they are still with us after the deadline.
Surely they should have been in contention all season anyway with the limitations in the squad.
He also said all 3 have indicated they want to stay sort of which basically means nobody will.match or improve there wage.

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Routledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:07 - Aug 29 with 4305 viewskarnataka

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:43 - Aug 29 by Badlands

All three offer more than Asoro and McKay.
Routs did well in central midfield on tour.


I certainly think Dyer is still capable of more than Asoro has shown us so far this season. Ok, Nath obviously isn't one for the future but on his showings so far, neither is Asoro tbh. The team needs improvements now and I think Dyer would be an upgrade on Asoro even if only for the short term.

Narsingh was always hit and miss and Routs clearly struggled in the Prem in the last couple of seasons but against lower standard opposition, both could probably still do a job.

We need extra bodies so if we don't get any more loans in as looks likely, surely these players will have to come into the equation at some point. It may not be part of GP's plan but when you are using a very small pool of 'preferred' players playing twice a week, 1 or 2 injuries or suspensions, and that plan goes out of the window and you end up doing whatever you have to do to get a competitive team on the pitch.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:10 - Aug 29 with 4281 viewspencoedjack

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 14:49 - Aug 29 by thornabyswan

Routeledge in central midfield would be worth a go I think.
Dyer should be starting currently not sure what to make of Narsingh he struggled in the Prem but I think he would
do ok at championship
Not sure why we signed the additional wingers when we are so short in central midfield and up top.


Can’t see Routs playing as a central midfielder personally, both him & Dyer should never have been given new PL contracts although I agree Dyer could be utilised in the current squad.

Narsingh has just been shite
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:17 - Aug 29 with 4247 viewsJonathans_coat

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:01 - Aug 29 by thornabyswan

Potter said all 3 will come into contention for selection if they are still with us after the deadline.
Surely they should have been in contention all season anyway with the limitations in the squad.
He also said all 3 have indicated they want to stay sort of which basically means nobody will.match or improve there wage.


To match or improve their wage, they would need a prem club to come in for them. That ain’t gonna happen. They must be worth a run out in this league surely though? I like McKay, he’s been unlucky not to score 2 worldies, but not at all convinced by Asoro, can’t see how he is better than the three mentioned, other than his age meaning greater potential.

I think it all boils down to wages in the end. Yanks want further cuts, and the old guard will be on way higher than the newbies. As we are overstocked on the wings they want rid.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:23 - Aug 29 with 4210 viewsthornabyswan

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:17 - Aug 29 by Jonathans_coat

To match or improve their wage, they would need a prem club to come in for them. That ain’t gonna happen. They must be worth a run out in this league surely though? I like McKay, he’s been unlucky not to score 2 worldies, but not at all convinced by Asoro, can’t see how he is better than the three mentioned, other than his age meaning greater potential.

I think it all boils down to wages in the end. Yanks want further cuts, and the old guard will be on way higher than the newbies. As we are overstocked on the wings they want rid.


Yes I agree but the way it's going we will have 7 wingers 1 striker and short in central midfield.

Surely centre mid and a striker should have been prioritised first.
At least the CB cover is kind of sorted with the 3 we have there.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:26 - Aug 29 with 4188 viewsSwansea93

McKay can play more central freeing Dyer,Narsingh or Routledge to play, and then they'll use Asoro as a back up striker freeing another space up.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:39 - Aug 29 with 4115 viewsJango

I can’t believe people still want Routledge in the team after his performances the last 4 seasons. He can’t make a simple pass back to the left back these days and people want him centre midfield.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:52 - Aug 29 with 4066 viewsSWANSEYE

To be honest I would prefer any one of them to Asoro whose like a headless Chicken round the park
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:59 - Aug 29 with 4044 viewsthornabyswan

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 15:39 - Aug 29 by Jango

I can’t believe people still want Routledge in the team after his performances the last 4 seasons. He can’t make a simple pass back to the left back these days and people want him centre midfield.


Would prefer a specialised CM but if we don't get one we may have to play him there only Fulton Carrol and Fer available.
Fulton is injured
Fer not 100% fit
Carrol confidence is shot.

So we are short of options there.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 16:01 - Aug 29 with 4022 viewsjasper_T

Routledge was as bad a central midfielder as I've ever seen on the preseason tour.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 16:11 - Aug 29 with 3977 viewsicecoldjack

All 3 are good enough for this level and say what you like about dyer t and routs they are different players when used in a passing forward thinking system, they've suffered with the dross of long ball and negative managers more than most, potter is their kind of manager IMO.

Also, i thought the whole idea of keeping these guys around anyway was an insurance if we dropped down a league, so seems pointless not playing them when they are clearly.better options than some of the others.

The harsh reality is that the likes of Grimes and Fulton look decent at this level so why wouldn't dyer and routs?

I actually.think players like Dhanda and Celina are far more on routs wave length than most of the previous players, I think both our senior players would do well supplemented by younger players .

I'm sure potter would prefer them to stay while the yanks just want to cut every wage to the Bone except their own .

Routs can play in the middle, dyer played as a striker under Laudrup and did ok in a higher league .
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 16:38 - Aug 29 with 3877 viewsLeonWasGod

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 16:11 - Aug 29 by icecoldjack

All 3 are good enough for this level and say what you like about dyer t and routs they are different players when used in a passing forward thinking system, they've suffered with the dross of long ball and negative managers more than most, potter is their kind of manager IMO.

Also, i thought the whole idea of keeping these guys around anyway was an insurance if we dropped down a league, so seems pointless not playing them when they are clearly.better options than some of the others.

The harsh reality is that the likes of Grimes and Fulton look decent at this level so why wouldn't dyer and routs?

I actually.think players like Dhanda and Celina are far more on routs wave length than most of the previous players, I think both our senior players would do well supplemented by younger players .

I'm sure potter would prefer them to stay while the yanks just want to cut every wage to the Bone except their own .

Routs can play in the middle, dyer played as a striker under Laudrup and did ok in a higher league .


Yes, they'd probably be fine, and Dyer and Narsingh probably better than Asoro. But it looks like the owners want them gone. The only way I can see them being involved is if we fail to loan them out before Friday (which is certainly a possibility).
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 16:43 - Aug 29 with 3841 viewsthornabyswan

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 16:38 - Aug 29 by LeonWasGod

Yes, they'd probably be fine, and Dyer and Narsingh probably better than Asoro. But it looks like the owners want them gone. The only way I can see them being involved is if we fail to loan them out before Friday (which is certainly a possibility).


Yes it seems that way Potter said all 3 want to stay.
So would be surprised if any come in either.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 17:36 - Aug 29 with 3713 viewsjasper_T

I don't understand people pining for these three when we've got McKay, James and Dhanda all looking promising at a fraction of the price.

It was a mistake to give Dyer and Routledge new deals when we did, and an even bigger mistake to hold onto them now when they'd still only be backups to younger, cheaper alternatives.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 17:45 - Aug 29 with 3671 viewsKGriz16

I don't think their capabilities this season have ever been in question/doubt. I think it's the large wages they're all on that's the reason for the offloading.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:20 - Aug 29 with 3470 viewsthornabyswan

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 17:36 - Aug 29 by jasper_T

I don't understand people pining for these three when we've got McKay, James and Dhanda all looking promising at a fraction of the price.

It was a mistake to give Dyer and Routledge new deals when we did, and an even bigger mistake to hold onto them now when they'd still only be backups to younger, cheaper alternatives.


The price will be irrelevant after Friday we will be stuck with their wage then so can then pick the best players as opposed to the cheapest.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:25 - Aug 29 with 3448 viewsBadlands

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 17:36 - Aug 29 by jasper_T

I don't understand people pining for these three when we've got McKay, James and Dhanda all looking promising at a fraction of the price.

It was a mistake to give Dyer and Routledge new deals when we did, and an even bigger mistake to hold onto them now when they'd still only be backups to younger, cheaper alternatives.


Because they are better players than the prospects you mentioned.
At some point we need to play for the present and prepare for the future instead of playing for the future and ignoring the present.

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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:36 - Aug 29 with 3410 viewsJango

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:25 - Aug 29 by Badlands

Because they are better players than the prospects you mentioned.
At some point we need to play for the present and prepare for the future instead of playing for the future and ignoring the present.


You reckon Routledge done well in midfield on tour, do you know which one Routledge is?
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:55 - Aug 29 with 3339 viewsjasper_T

Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:25 - Aug 29 by Badlands

Because they are better players than the prospects you mentioned.
At some point we need to play for the present and prepare for the future instead of playing for the future and ignoring the present.


Are they better players, though? Football moves quickly and it's been years since Dyer or Routledge have put in a notable performance at any level. We've seen already this season that young, unfancied players can step up and establish themselves very quickly given the opportunity. Not need to stick with the tried and "trusted".

Routledge is nearing 34. He's got no understanding built up with any of his current teammates. Playing for the present or not he doesn't make a compelling case for his hefty appearance fee.
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Routeledge Dyer Narsingh on 19:55 - Aug 29 with 3337 viewsswan65split

I think they are trying to get rid/force them out, but as its early yet, and atm not much seems to be happening on the incoming side, I would like them to stay, they may be able to do a job in this league,,,,,,,,and we may need them.
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