| No fear 17:01 - Sep 24 with 8291 views | 442Dale |
Its clear we can't defend very well, so if nothing else we have now discovered that going at teams produces results.
Sounded like a 4-4-2/4-2-4in the second half, with the wide players being forwards and Bunney producing crosses of high quality when pushing on. Keep it up, nothing lost in taking games to the opposition. |  |
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| No fear on 17:08 - Sep 24 with 6475 views | D_Alien |
Enforced upon us to a large extent, and something the manager and players need to take on board. I felt we started the season with a bit of an inferiority complex, and I've no idea why. |  |
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| No fear on 18:40 - Sep 24 with 6169 views | dingdangblue |
| No fear on 17:08 - Sep 24 by D_Alien |
Enforced upon us to a large extent, and something the manager and players need to take on board. I felt we started the season with a bit of an inferiority complex, and I've no idea why. |
I think that just came about from the nature of our opening day defeat and then not holding onto a win and a draw against Sheffield and Milton Keynes. Confidence obviously took a knock and we've just got over it. The injuries piling up are horrendous though - it cant help changing team after team every game. |  |
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| No fear on 18:43 - Sep 24 with 6142 views | 442Dale |
| No fear on 18:40 - Sep 24 by dingdangblue |
I think that just came about from the nature of our opening day defeat and then not holding onto a win and a draw against Sheffield and Milton Keynes. Confidence obviously took a knock and we've just got over it. The injuries piling up are horrendous though - it cant help changing team after team every game. |
They really should update fans on the situation. When Hill has been asked about players (RNL) he's said what's going on, someone ask him about NML and McNulty. | |
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| No fear on 18:47 - Sep 24 with 6110 views | 1907 |
| No fear on 18:43 - Sep 24 by 442Dale |
They really should update fans on the situation. When Hill has been asked about players (RNL) he's said what's going on, someone ask him about NML and McNulty. |
Surely you understand that by updating the fans he's updating the opposition? Totally understand why Hill is so secretive regarding injuries |  | | |
| No fear on 18:52 - Sep 24 with 6068 views | nordenblue |
| No fear on 18:47 - Sep 24 by 1907 |
Surely you understand that by updating the fans he's updating the opposition? Totally understand why Hill is so secretive regarding injuries |
Don't really buy into the fact that most opposition teams are overly bothered who we field tbf,they will surely set their stall up to their strengths in the main anyway | | | |
| No fear on 18:59 - Sep 24 with 6029 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| No fear on 18:52 - Sep 24 by nordenblue |
Don't really buy into the fact that most opposition teams are overly bothered who we field tbf,they will surely set their stall up to their strengths in the main anyway |
I'm sure Charlton Ath would have been at the Den today watching our line up ahead of next Saturday's second trip for Dale in seven days, to that London.
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| No fear on 19:02 - Sep 24 with 6008 views | Shun |
No fear suits me fine! Did we deserve the win today? From the other thread it seems Milwall fans were angry at Hill at the final whistle. Was that just anger over the result or something else? Bunney made some marvellous crosses last week and I'm glad to see it's continued today. |  | | |
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| No fear on 19:38 - Sep 24 with 5840 views | 1907 |
Long term injuries are more difficult to hide. Injuries picked up during the week are another matter. In an ideal world I would be all about transparency with the club, but I understand why it isn't. | | | |
| No fear on 19:39 - Sep 24 with 5819 views | 1907 |
| No fear on 18:52 - Sep 24 by nordenblue |
Don't really buy into the fact that most opposition teams are overly bothered who we field tbf,they will surely set their stall up to their strengths in the main anyway |
I think you're doing the standard of tactics/scouting in this division a disservice. I sat next to a scout when we were in league two that was scouting us for a game the following week. I could not even begin to describe to you the depths into which the sport science at this standard of football goes. | | | |
| No fear on 19:45 - Sep 24 with 5778 views | 442Dale |
| No fear on 19:38 - Sep 24 by 1907 |
Long term injuries are more difficult to hide. Injuries picked up during the week are another matter. In an ideal world I would be all about transparency with the club, but I understand why it isn't. |
Yeah, that's why we'd like an update on NML. Out since the Sunderland game. | |
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| No fear on 19:47 - Sep 24 with 5754 views | D_Alien |
| No fear on 19:39 - Sep 24 by 1907 |
I think you're doing the standard of tactics/scouting in this division a disservice. I sat next to a scout when we were in league two that was scouting us for a game the following week. I could not even begin to describe to you the depths into which the sport science at this standard of football goes. |
You don't need to, we understand these things without having to sit next to scouts
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| No fear on 19:56 - Sep 24 with 5669 views | roccydaleian |
| No fear on 19:39 - Sep 24 by 1907 |
I think you're doing the standard of tactics/scouting in this division a disservice. I sat next to a scout when we were in league two that was scouting us for a game the following week. I could not even begin to describe to you the depths into which the sport science at this standard of football goes. |
Where I sit, I see scouts at nearly every game, and they generally leave with about twenty minutes to go, so miss quite a bit of the game and substitutions, doesn't seem reet scientific to me. |  | | |
| No fear on 19:57 - Sep 24 with 5651 views | 442Dale |
| No fear on 19:56 - Sep 24 by roccydaleian |
Where I sit, I see scouts at nearly every game, and they generally leave with about twenty minutes to go, so miss quite a bit of the game and substitutions, doesn't seem reet scientific to me. |
You need only to look at our tactics in the second half today that those within the game over complicate it far too much at times. | |
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| No fear on 22:15 - Sep 24 with 5361 views | nordenblue |
| No fear on 19:39 - Sep 24 by 1907 |
I think you're doing the standard of tactics/scouting in this division a disservice. I sat next to a scout when we were in league two that was scouting us for a game the following week. I could not even begin to describe to you the depths into which the sport science at this standard of football goes. |
I'm fully aware of the depths,but teams like the Sheffield Utds of this world whilst playing Done and Sharp up top won't be too bothered who we play at the back,their midfield will pick itself as will their defence.
Our personnel won't really influence their decision making too much | | | |
| No fear on 22:22 - Sep 24 with 5326 views | TVOS1907 |
| No fear on 18:47 - Sep 24 by 1907 |
Surely you understand that by updating the fans he's updating the opposition? Totally understand why Hill is so secretive regarding injuries |
It's not updating the opposition after the event. He could just say "he was injured today", which doesn't mean he will still be injured in a week.
As 442 says, news has been revealed before. It even helps to bridge the mythical disconnect. |  |
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| No fear on 22:32 - Sep 24 with 5295 views | dingdangblue |
| No fear on 22:22 - Sep 24 by TVOS1907 |
It's not updating the opposition after the event. He could just say "he was injured today", which doesn't mean he will still be injured in a week.
As 442 says, news has been revealed before. It even helps to bridge the mythical disconnect. |
He did say we'd picked up 2 injuries during training this week - obviously we now know it was McNulty and Vincenti. | |
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| No fear on 11:34 - Sep 25 with 4923 views | Daley_Lama |
Scouting is all about finding that 1% advantage.
Seeing as every single one of our wins/defeats have been by 1 goal, usually in the dying embers of a game, i would not dismiss any slight insight or knowlege that could be gained.
It might be that we set up like 'this' for corners and free-kicks, or so and so likes to cut in on his right and shoot, so don't let him.
David Brailsford helped Team GB get golds galore by 1%, dismiss at your peril. |  |
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| No fear on 11:45 - Sep 25 with 4897 views | SimpkinsLeftPeg |
| No fear on 19:57 - Sep 24 by 442Dale |
You need only to look at our tactics in the second half today that those within the game over complicate it far too much at times. |
What were these tactics? |  | | |
| No fear on 11:52 - Sep 25 with 4867 views | 442Dale |
Those mentioned in the first post - radio commentary mentioned Davies, Odelusi, Andrew and Henderson in very advanced positions and that we really went for it. Hill's subs were ones which looked to put pressure on the opposition, it worked. | |
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| No fear on 11:59 - Sep 25 with 4849 views | D_Alien |
| No fear on 11:51 - Sep 25 by SimpkinsLeftPeg |
Maybe Hilly didn't specify what the injuries were that caused them to miss out yesterday, because that could point to them either being available or not against Bolton/Charlton?
That could lead to the opposition preparing to face a different team than we will actually field, giving us a very slight advantage. Marginal gains. |
It's not about specifying the type of injury, simply that the player wasn't available through injury - that clears up any misunderstanding and stops idiots from speculating about fallings out etc.
Also gives next weeks opposition summat else to wonder about, incidentally, and in direct counter to your point i.e. will he be available or not
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| No fear on 12:06 - Sep 25 with 4827 views | SimpkinsLeftPeg |
| No fear on 11:52 - Sep 25 by 442Dale |
Those mentioned in the first post - radio commentary mentioned Davies, Odelusi, Andrew and Henderson in very advanced positions and that we really went for it. Hill's subs were ones which looked to put pressure on the opposition, it worked. |
Excellent subs indeed. Allowed us to move forward quickly, which unsettled them.
Didn't see any variation of a 4-4-2 though. Andrew spent most of the game coming from a wide position, and was excellent. Odelusi's best display also, played in behind Davies when he came on. Wouldn't be surprised to see the team that finished, start on Tuesday. | | | |
| No fear on 12:09 - Sep 25 with 4822 views | 442Dale |
| No fear on 11:59 - Sep 25 by D_Alien |
It's not about specifying the type of injury, simply that the player wasn't available through injury - that clears up any misunderstanding and stops idiots from speculating about fallings out etc.
Also gives next weeks opposition summat else to wonder about, incidentally, and in direct counter to your point i.e. will he be available or not
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Plus, as illustrated, Hill will say when someone is injured when asked. And if he doesn't want to answer, he'll say so. | |
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