| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) 13:57 - Nov 8 with 19749 views | ChaffRAFC |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 20:55 - Nov 8 with 2147 views | RotherhamDale |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 20:39 - Nov 8 by nordenblue |
I could count on 1 hand the decent things he's done, we can't even blame bad management for his game either this time like previous players. I'd prefer George back up front and thats saying something |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:32 - Nov 8 with 2038 views | nordenblue |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 20:27 - Nov 8 by Daleaholic |
I'm not having the Hendo love-in any more.
Today he was stupid, petulant and completely unprofessional.
For those who think today was out of character for Henderson, it's not. He's always kicking out and trying to give opposition players a 'dig', usually out of sight of the officials. It's almost every game, only today the referee was aware and saw it clearly. The referee wasn't influenced by anyone except Henderson and his idiotic actions.
Henderson seems to have been untouchable since his arrival at the club. Yes, overall his performances have been outstanding but when he does something like today, he needs to be punished. By one silly kick out, he's jeopardising our chances of progression in the cup and potential revenue.
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Hang him. Its not that Hendo is untouchable since he joined us, in the main hes been absolutely top drawer and some have rightly mentioned him as the best player to ever play for us, that takes some doing especially with recent talent we've had.You say punish him,i reckon a 3 game ban is quite a punishment |  | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:33 - Nov 8 with 2028 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 17:47 - Nov 8 by olympicdale |
Yeah lets not all get on Hendo's back, he made a very bad judgment, he'll know this, he must have been strongly provoked because this is not like Hendo at all, but we stuck in there, and still in the hat which is the most important thing. |
He wasn't 'strongly provoked'.
It was a nothing clash with one of their players on the touchline by the halfway line and for some reason he chose to kick out at him.
Silly and petulant are probably suitable words, but more to the point, someone of Henderson's intelligence and experience should know better.
I'm sure Hill will have had a word and I'm confident Henderson won't do it again. |  |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:50 - Nov 8 with 1978 views | D_Dale |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 20:27 - Nov 8 by Daleaholic |
I'm not having the Hendo love-in any more.
Today he was stupid, petulant and completely unprofessional.
For those who think today was out of character for Henderson, it's not. He's always kicking out and trying to give opposition players a 'dig', usually out of sight of the officials. It's almost every game, only today the referee was aware and saw it clearly. The referee wasn't influenced by anyone except Henderson and his idiotic actions.
Henderson seems to have been untouchable since his arrival at the club. Yes, overall his performances have been outstanding but when he does something like today, he needs to be punished. By one silly kick out, he's jeopardising our chances of progression in the cup and potential revenue.
*Rant over* |
"he's jeopardising our chances of progression in the cup and potential revenue. "
It ought to be possible to field a strong enough side to see off the Cobblers on the 18th. I'm more concerned about the two league matches Henderson will sit out. With Vincenti's injury and doubts that Allen will be fit, it's hard to see who'll be drafted in next Saturday.
Last March, when rather unfairly Hendo was sent off at bury, he missed playing against struggling Torquay, who ended a Dale unbeaten run. The visit to Port Vale now looks a lot more of a challenge. | | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:51 - Nov 8 with 1976 views | Daley_Lama |
Spot on TVOS
He did it, will know he was wrong, will get a rollocking, will move on.
He seems to have played every minute of every game this season, a rest might not be the worst thing albeit enforced rather than by desire. |  |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:57 - Nov 8 with 1936 views | love_the_dale |
The ball went out for a Northampton throw. Hendo was standing just off the pitch. Their player - accidentally I thought - bumped into Hendo as he went to retrieve the ball. Hendo flicked a foot at him. I don't think he actually made contact. A stupid thing to do and deserving of a yellow card. However not a red, which has to be violent contact - defined by FIFA as "A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball." Having said that, I agree with the people who said that it is something that he needs to cut out of his game.
An excellent performance, no panic when we went down to 10, difficult to tell we were a man short. Defensively, Northampton had hardly a chance until we tired late on. A great attempt from long distance by Dawson after Done had hurried the keeper into a poor clearance - couldn't tell whether it hit the bar or the keeper just got back in time to save it. Lund shot over when he had a good chance and time to steady himself. An Eastham header from a fine Tanser corner which was tipped over - he got up well for the header, but we thought he time to direct it better. Another shot, not sure who, that hit the post. We thought Bunney might have got a knock soon after coming on that slowed him down. Again difficult to choose MOM - any of the defenders, Dawson, Done. I think I would go for Dawson again - constantly finding a position to receive the ball, accurate passing, always looking to go forward, not seeming to be under pressure when being challenged. |  | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:58 - Nov 8 with 1929 views | 49thseason |
Re: Henderson
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits (Einstein). I can easily forgive Hendo an occasional bout of stupidity when you take the amount of genius he provides into account. |  | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:58 - Nov 8 with 1929 views | Sandyman |
10 man League 1 Swindon lose at 5-0 League 2 Cheltenham
10 man League 1 Fleetwood lose at League 2 Cambridge
10 man League 1 Rochdale DRAW at League 2 Northampton, and were a crossbar and a post away from winning. I say ten men for us , but after the kicking Matt Done got all game from their thugs, how they kept 11 men on the pitch is concerning. I'll be amazed if he can walk properly tomorrow. |  | | |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 22:00 - Nov 8 with 1912 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 21:57 - Nov 8 by love_the_dale |
The ball went out for a Northampton throw. Hendo was standing just off the pitch. Their player - accidentally I thought - bumped into Hendo as he went to retrieve the ball. Hendo flicked a foot at him. I don't think he actually made contact. A stupid thing to do and deserving of a yellow card. However not a red, which has to be violent contact - defined by FIFA as "A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball." Having said that, I agree with the people who said that it is something that he needs to cut out of his game.
An excellent performance, no panic when we went down to 10, difficult to tell we were a man short. Defensively, Northampton had hardly a chance until we tired late on. A great attempt from long distance by Dawson after Done had hurried the keeper into a poor clearance - couldn't tell whether it hit the bar or the keeper just got back in time to save it. Lund shot over when he had a good chance and time to steady himself. An Eastham header from a fine Tanser corner which was tipped over - he got up well for the header, but we thought he time to direct it better. Another shot, not sure who, that hit the post. We thought Bunney might have got a knock soon after coming on that slowed him down. Again difficult to choose MOM - any of the defenders, Dawson, Done. I think I would go for Dawson again - constantly finding a position to receive the ball, accurate passing, always looking to go forward, not seeming to be under pressure when being challenged. |
Lancashire had the free header which was tipped over.
Eastham hit the post with the later header.
Agree with you re. Dawson. We thought he was magnificent. | |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 22:08 - Nov 8 with 1893 views | deeplishblue |
That's it. I'm done with Herbalife now. |  |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 22:19 - Nov 8 with 1849 views | love_the_dale |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 22:00 - Nov 8 by TVOS1907 |
Lancashire had the free header which was tipped over.
Eastham hit the post with the later header.
Agree with you re. Dawson. We thought he was magnificent. |
I must admit I thought it was Lancashire too, but was outvoted by those around me! As I am usually wrong, I submitted. | | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 22:20 - Nov 8 with 1847 views | isitme |
Lancashire should have scored from that free header. He also could have tapped in Eastham's effort that hit the post before it hit the post. He was too busy celebrating to react!
Dawson was immense. I thought we sat back too much in the second half and put ourself under undue pressure. Rafferty in midfield was a strange one. I'm sure Cannon or Camps could have played that role better.
Poor Joe appears to have gone backwards. Young Bell from the youth team maybe a better option? Or the missing man Muldoon? That is if he make up with Hilly. Heard they had had a falling out over his attitude. Not sure how true it is? Someone in the know might know?
What Henderson did was allegedly petulent. I would need to see a replay of it before passing judgement. It didn't cost use today. Let's hope he isn't missed too much in the games he misses. |  | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 23:36 - Nov 8 with 1704 views | Shun |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 18:57 - Nov 8 by SaxonDale |
If Bunney was injured it begs the question as to why he was born on in the first place. Agree with what has been said about his performance by Brierls and Shun and for the time he was on we were practically playing with 9.
As for the game we were a cut above first half and had we had all 11 I'm sure it would have been over by half time. Second half they changed their system and put us under a decent amount of pressure which our defence dealt with superbly. I was slightly surprised to see Hery go off amd be replaced by Rafferty who I thought took 15 minuted to get to grips with his midfield position but offered us good defensive cover after that. Dawson my M.O.M, always showing for a pass and put a great shift in. Didn't see the sending off but it will be interesting to see how we approach the next 3 games upfront. |
You don't know why he was born in the first place? Very harsh, Saxon! |  | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 01:14 - Nov 9 with 1620 views | irisaln |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 18:32 - Nov 8 by Brierls |
He must have been injured from the moment he came onto the pitch because he was bloody awful. Didn't look like he wanted to be there. Suggestion in the car that he looked ill, I think he just looked like a young player who has completely lost his way. Get him out on loan and give a chance to somebody who can make an impact. |
I'll second that. Get the lad out on loan for his own good. If KH keeps sending him on as a sub. he will become another Donnelly ridiculed by his own supporters. He is not yet up to the job. He has gone backwards at the moment but he may well improve given time and help from our coaches. | | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 01:18 - Nov 9 with 1617 views | Daleaholic |
I think I've over reacted to the incident.
It was highly frustrating to see one of our players dismissed for such a silly moment of madness.
The 3 game ban is probably ample punishment, however I do believe Hendo needs to look at this small issue he has of taking an on pitch battle a little too far. |  |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 10:46 - Nov 9 with 1415 views | SaxonDale |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 23:36 - Nov 8 by Shun |
You don't know why he was born in the first place? Very harsh, Saxon! |
I really should stop posting from my phone. |  | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 10:54 - Nov 9 with 1401 views | isitme |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 01:18 - Nov 9 by Daleaholic |
I think I've over reacted to the incident.
It was highly frustrating to see one of our players dismissed for such a silly moment of madness.
The 3 game ban is probably ample punishment, however I do believe Hendo needs to look at this small issue he has of taking an on pitch battle a little too far. |
On his DalePlayer interview Hilly says that Henderson didn't make contact and that it was a yellow card at worst. He said the ref didn't give himself any thinking time, unlike later in the game when Sinclair elbowed Bennett, which was an accident and rightly only a free kick was given. | | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 11:14 - Nov 9 with 1372 views | macro |
It doesn't matter whether he made contact, the intent was there - red card end of story |  | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 11:33 - Nov 9 with 1342 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 10:54 - Nov 9 by isitme |
On his DalePlayer interview Hilly says that Henderson didn't make contact and that it was a yellow card at worst. He said the ref didn't give himself any thinking time, unlike later in the game when Sinclair elbowed Bennett, which was an accident and rightly only a free kick was given. |
There wasn't anything to think about! | |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 12:28 - Nov 9 with 1311 views | YouTubeDale |
The sending off of Hendo DID cost us. It changed the game. I felt that we were going to throttle them with our intelligent, attacking play. But a good part of our "intelligence" was already in the changing rooms after only 15 minutes leaving us to battle it out for a good majority of the match. When Hilly said they saw the sending off incident on replay after the match and there was no contact, then surely we should appeal. As stated, it was hardly violent if no contact was made. The ref got it horribly wrong if this is true. In my opinion, that cost us the win, and has even more ramifications for our next two League games. I know I am getting far ahead of myself, but it could cost us a play-off place.
Just let's hope that some good comes out of this, the most likely being Noble-Lazarus scoring / showing his effectiveness or perhaps bringing Muldoon to the fore.
After the final whistle I was happy that we were still in the competition. But at half time I wouldn't have taken a draw as I felt we could still have gone on and won it. And that proved the case with Lancashire's mis-directed header when he was unchallenged in the air, and Estham's header onto the post. But they could have won it too in the second half. Logan had to make a couple of good saves to keep us in it and other chances they wasted by not hitting the target. Typical Cup football in the end, but a game scuppered by a petulant referee as far as a fair contest was concerned, 11 v 11.
Petulant : moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, especially over some trifling annoyance: a petulant loss of the head. |  |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 12:55 - Nov 9 with 1277 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 12:28 - Nov 9 by YouTubeDale |
The sending off of Hendo DID cost us. It changed the game. I felt that we were going to throttle them with our intelligent, attacking play. But a good part of our "intelligence" was already in the changing rooms after only 15 minutes leaving us to battle it out for a good majority of the match. When Hilly said they saw the sending off incident on replay after the match and there was no contact, then surely we should appeal. As stated, it was hardly violent if no contact was made. The ref got it horribly wrong if this is true. In my opinion, that cost us the win, and has even more ramifications for our next two League games. I know I am getting far ahead of myself, but it could cost us a play-off place.
Just let's hope that some good comes out of this, the most likely being Noble-Lazarus scoring / showing his effectiveness or perhaps bringing Muldoon to the fore.
After the final whistle I was happy that we were still in the competition. But at half time I wouldn't have taken a draw as I felt we could still have gone on and won it. And that proved the case with Lancashire's mis-directed header when he was unchallenged in the air, and Estham's header onto the post. But they could have won it too in the second half. Logan had to make a couple of good saves to keep us in it and other chances they wasted by not hitting the target. Typical Cup football in the end, but a game scuppered by a petulant referee as far as a fair contest was concerned, 11 v 11.
Petulant : moved to or showing sudden, impatient irritation, especially over some trifling annoyance: a petulant loss of the head. |
Doesn't matter if there was contact or not. Aiming a kick at an opponent with no intention to play the ball, however trivial, is a sending-off offence. I'm afraid Henderson was guilty of that.
Why are all our red cards deemed as wrong decisions? [Post edited 9 Nov 2014 12:58]
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 13:08 - Nov 9 with 1250 views | 442Dale |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 12:55 - Nov 9 by TVOS1907 |
Doesn't matter if there was contact or not. Aiming a kick at an opponent with no intention to play the ball, however trivial, is a sending-off offence. I'm afraid Henderson was guilty of that.
Why are all our red cards deemed as wrong decisions? [Post edited 9 Nov 2014 12:58]
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If, say, John Coleman had made similar comments about, say, Gornell, McIntyre etc not connecting, would we accept his comments?
(Not seen the incident at all btw, so have no opinion of my own yet) |  |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 13:20 - Nov 9 with 1223 views | robbowood |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 13:08 - Nov 9 by 442Dale |
If, say, John Coleman had made similar comments about, say, Gornell, McIntyre etc not connecting, would we accept his comments?
(Not seen the incident at all btw, so have no opinion of my own yet) |
From their Forum
The highlights seem to be missing the great effort that Dale had that hit the bar, and as for the sending off...having seen it now.....much ado about nothing! If one of our players had walked for that we'd have all been moaning! | | | |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 13:40 - Nov 9 with 1201 views | Daley_Lama |
There were hanging effigy's of David Beckham after his Simeone moment, I reckon Herbatov has got away lightly with this one.  | |
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| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 13:44 - Nov 9 with 1192 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match Thread - Northampton Away (FA Cup) on 13:20 - Nov 9 by robbowood |
From their Forum
The highlights seem to be missing the great effort that Dale had that hit the bar, and as for the sending off...having seen it now.....much ado about nothing! If one of our players had walked for that we'd have all been moaning! |
Where have they seen the sending-off? It was off camera, as per Col's link from last night. Is there some different footage? | |
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