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Southampton V Leicester City The Verdict
Monday, 21st Oct 2024 08:55

Well what can be said about this game, it was a game of two halves where the biggest talking point was the referee, but lets also be pragmatic, Leicester played with organisation and passion and looked the better side for most of the game.

This was a game that Saints should have won, 2-0 up at half time, it was surely all about game management in the second half, but the truth was we had none, just as we needed to keep it tight and batten down the hatches, a lack of leadership both on and off the pitch once again cost us dearly.

But it started well, after hitting the bar early on a good run and cross from Ryan Manning found Cameron Archer who fired home to give Saints the lead after only 8 minutes, another fine run down the same wing from Kyle Walker Peters saw Joe Aribo double the lead and although Leicester hit the inside of the post we seemed to be holding firm and were good value for the lead, although the Foxes had shown enough to suggest it would not be an easy second half.

That proved to be the case, Saints stayed strong for 15 minutes of so but then the game swung after Yuri Sugawara went off injured, Kyle Walker Peters switched to right back and within minutes Leicester had marauded down our left side and crossed for the Foxes to halve the deficit.

Now it was truly going to be about game management. but we seemed to lack any both on and off the field, Leicester were now on top and pouring forward, we needed cool heads, but it was Will Smallbone who came on, now I am not a critic of Smallbone, but was he really the man to come and shore things up after being out injured for the last month or so.

The obvious choice here was to bring on Charlie Taylor at left back and switch KWP, square pegs in square holes, but we changed 3 positions in one foul swoop and that broke our rhythm.

The obvious choice would surely have been Adam Lallana, I have heard somewhere that he was injured in the warm up, but this is the 3rd game in a row he has not got off the bench, that is baffling, there seems to be a problem here.

Off went Cameron Archer for Paul Onuauchu, and things did not get better, once again only minutes after a substitution came a goal conceded, we just couldn't seem to get organised and keep the ball and Leicester were rampant, a fine save from Aarron Ramsdale kept the ball out, most thought that we had somehow kept the ball out, VAR showed Ryan Fraser literally had a hand in it, tugging on a shirt and the resulting penalty was tucked away.

Now we were down to 10 men and under the cosh, but somehow we held on till the final minute of 7 added for injuries etc, you all know what happened next.

So where did it all go wrong ? Yes the referee was no help, he was awful, he did not let the game flow and flashed yellow cards for the most innocuous challenges, Ryan Manning was booked in the 6th minute, Matteus Fernades in the 10th and by the 36th, Referee Taylor had another 2 of our men in his book, not one Leicester player had joined them.

Of course the big talking point was the fact that Taylor gave a penalty for Leicester, VAR was more responsible for that and in truth Fraser was guilty as charged, but Saints had a similar appeal turned down with Taylor only yards away and VAR not suggesting he take a look.

But these things happen in football, we should never have been in this position, the game turned on game management, Steve Cooper made the right changes for Leicester and turned the game, we made baffling ones and threw it away.

Russell Martin is suddenly turning to players that have done nothing for the club, it seems like he is desperate, Tall Paul Onuachu and Kamaldeen Sulemana have done nothing for this club in 2 1/2 years, and that didn't look like changing on Saturday.

Just as we needed cool heads on the pitch, these two were brought on by Martin, the big question is why ! I could understand it if we had been in Leicester's position and chasing the game, but we weren't.

On 68 minutes when Onuachu came on we were 2-1 up, we needed experience and work rate, Adam Armstrong would have been the obvious choice here, he will put in a shift and close down to stop build ups, Tall Paul is ok when the ball is near him, but he can't run.

The introduction of Taylor in the 78th minute was about the only logical sub made out of 5 by Martin, when Tyler Dibling came off at the same time, why was it Sulemana who replaced him, a player that was injured in pre season and has not been fit, surely it is obvious that he is not the player to shore things up, nothing against Sulemana, aside from his lack of end product in his entire Saints career, but surely it was about firstly trying to hang on to what we had, batten down the hatches, not have two players on who are yet to make a notable contribution to this football club.

So for me this was what cost us dearly, a total lack of game management, it was just as much about the players who did not get on the pitch, than those that were, no Adam Armstrong, no Adam Lallana, No Lesley Ugochokwu, these three stayed on the bench, when all three were those that could have made a contribution.

Sulemana & Onuauchu have made it quite clear that they don't want to be at the club, how does that make those that do want to play for the club feel, not just those stuck on the bench, but those not in the matchday squad, Ben Brereton Diaz, Sam Amo- Ameyaw, Maxwel Cornet, even these three have better track records, these sort of selection's do not unite squads, they create division and tension and they make players question the manager.

On Saturday Steve Cooper changed the game for Leicester and our manager seemed to be stuck in the headlights and not sure what to do for the best, I would love Russell martin to turn things around, I stuck up for him last season and I did so in the early games of this, but I truly cannot see anything at the moment that makes me feel that he can change things, he is just chopping and changing without any real conviction other than hoping something will work.

That means there is only one solution and that is a change of manager.

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YosemiteSaint added 22:33 - Oct 21
This article sums up the tactical problems quite nicely: https://defector.com/southampton-is-too-stubborn-for-the-premier-league.
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YosemiteSaint added 00:12 - Oct 22
This article does a nice job of patiently pointing out the problems: https://defector.com/southampton-is-too-stubborn-for-the-premier-league.

In the meantime—and I'm sure to get some stick for this—it's been a long time since I enjoyed a season of football like the past one in the Championship. The Premier League is just a big poker table rigged by the "Big Six/Seven/Eight," and we're always doomed to nail-biting and looking over our shoulders because we don't have the chips. In other words, it's just not been fun.

If the goal is to return to the Championship—which I think I wouldn't mind—then keep Martin and we'll have another enjoyable go of it next year. Perhaps our only punishment is to punch above our weight and spend seasons in the Premiership for it.
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YosemiteSaint added 00:13 - Oct 22
I'm sure to get some stick for this, but it's been a long time since I enjoyed a season of football like the past one in the Championship. The Premier League is just a big poker table rigged by the "Big Six/Seven/Eight," and we're always doomed to nail-biting and looking over our shoulders because we don't have the chips. In other words, it's just not been fun.

If the goal is to return to the Championship—which I think I wouldn't mind—then keep Martin and we'll have another enjoyable go of it next year. Perhaps our only punishment is to punch above our weight and spend seasons in the Premiership for it.
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darthvader added 13:16 - Oct 25
I have never seen i more bias ref in 50 years i have been watching football.
He had it in for us from the first few minutes.
He cheated simple as that , its corruption . In isolation the 2 shirt pulls you could be pissed off about yes but this was the entire game . I can not understand why the club or someone hasnt made an official complaint about this its so obvious . We will never ever win anything in this league we simply will not be allowed to... . The arsenal goal should have been chalked off the other week , but no its ok its only saints . Corruption. Bring on the championship, normal games normal fans no bullshit


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darthvader added 13:20 - Oct 25
Oh and ps keep martin for this season and next . We are doomed anyway so lets go down with a manager who knows the championship
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