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Team formation 16:41 - Jan 17 with 846 viewsdmm

I'm always interested in the team formation. It's not a static thing within a game - defending and attacking shapes are obviously different - and it can also change from game to game. But, there is usually a basic shape in which teams set up.

What formation do people think Marti's using of late? It's changed from 4231 to either 433 or 4141. What do people think?
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Team formation on 16:45 - Jan 17 with 826 viewsgazza1

4-1-4-1 is how they set up and I think that will be no different on Saturday but the players need to flexible as the game gets played. He may well be changing it himself as well depending on the performance/goals/subs......
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Team formation on 16:55 - Jan 17 with 794 viewsqueensparker

Agreed it’s been 4-1-4-1 for a while now - working well
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Team formation on 16:56 - Jan 17 with 794 viewsLogman

Difficult to pin down as quite a few players move around a bit, e.g. Morgan last home game was moreorless playing right mid first half.

If I had to say what Marti does I would say:

- Back 4
- cdm in front of the centre backs (varane),
- no. 8 up an down in front of the defence and behind the attack (Field)
- no. 10 wandering (morgan)
- rw, lw and cf (smyth, chair and frey)
[Post edited 17 Jan 16:57]
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Team formation on 17:12 - Jan 17 with 734 viewsqpr_1968

it baffles me when people use numbers as positions....surely the numbers being used are from the old positions used from the early 70's and before.

1,2,3,2,3.....layout.

1, goaly
2, left back
3, right back
4, left half
5, centre half
6, right half
7, left wing
8, inside left
9, centre forward
10, inside right
11, right wing.

or have the numbers per position changed.

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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Team formation on 17:18 - Jan 17 with 706 viewssuperstan

Team formation on 17:12 - Jan 17 by qpr_1968

it baffles me when people use numbers as positions....surely the numbers being used are from the old positions used from the early 70's and before.

1,2,3,2,3.....layout.

1, goaly
2, left back
3, right back
4, left half
5, centre half
6, right half
7, left wing
8, inside left
9, centre forward
10, inside right
11, right wing.

or have the numbers per position changed.


Wasn’t 7 right wing and vice versa?
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Team formation on 17:21 - Jan 17 with 699 viewscolinallcars

Team formation on 17:12 - Jan 17 by qpr_1968

it baffles me when people use numbers as positions....surely the numbers being used are from the old positions used from the early 70's and before.

1,2,3,2,3.....layout.

1, goaly
2, left back
3, right back
4, left half
5, centre half
6, right half
7, left wing
8, inside left
9, centre forward
10, inside right
11, right wing.

or have the numbers per position changed.


I still think in those terms. The one we all understand is number 10.
Going back through the years, it always seemed that the left footers were the skillful ones.
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Team formation on 18:12 - Jan 17 with 616 viewsbaz_qpr

Watch the Coaches voice with Marti for some good insight he calls it 4-3-3 but at particular stages on the pitch it's 4-1-4-1. No 10 in this system
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Team formation on 18:37 - Jan 17 with 563 viewsnix

Team formation on 17:12 - Jan 17 by qpr_1968

it baffles me when people use numbers as positions....surely the numbers being used are from the old positions used from the early 70's and before.

1,2,3,2,3.....layout.

1, goaly
2, left back
3, right back
4, left half
5, centre half
6, right half
7, left wing
8, inside left
9, centre forward
10, inside right
11, right wing.

or have the numbers per position changed.


I have taken it to meaan six is holding midfielder, eight is CM and ten is AM.

Don't know about the other numbers though.
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Team formation on 18:45 - Jan 17 with 544 viewsdmm

Talking of squad numbers, it's rather strange we don't have a no 9 this season. It makes you wonder if they had reserved that shirt for a player who ended up not coming in.
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Team formation on 18:50 - Jan 17 with 527 viewsqpr_1968

Team formation on 18:37 - Jan 17 by nix

I have taken it to meaan six is holding midfielder, eight is CM and ten is AM.

Don't know about the other numbers though.


as long as they are wearing squad numbers, none of it makes sense.

not disbelieving you, but where have you got your number positions from.

as i say, the ones and only ones i know are from the early 70's and before.

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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Team formation on 18:51 - Jan 17 with 517 viewsqpr_1968

Team formation on 18:45 - Jan 17 by dmm

Talking of squad numbers, it's rather strange we don't have a no 9 this season. It makes you wonder if they had reserved that shirt for a player who ended up not coming in.


i hope your refering to a centre forward.

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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Team formation on 18:53 - Jan 17 with 502 viewsdmm

Team formation on 18:50 - Jan 17 by qpr_1968

as long as they are wearing squad numbers, none of it makes sense.

not disbelieving you, but where have you got your number positions from.

as i say, the ones and only ones i know are from the early 70's and before.


The 6, 8 and 10 positions that nix posts about are pretty standard and have been for a long time.
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Team formation on 19:01 - Jan 17 with 484 viewskensalriser

Team formation on 17:12 - Jan 17 by qpr_1968

it baffles me when people use numbers as positions....surely the numbers being used are from the old positions used from the early 70's and before.

1,2,3,2,3.....layout.

1, goaly
2, left back
3, right back
4, left half
5, centre half
6, right half
7, left wing
8, inside left
9, centre forward
10, inside right
11, right wing.

or have the numbers per position changed.


That's absolutely it (subject to superstan's comment re LW v RW) but that formation is more like from the 50s or even before and was already long gone from the pro game in the 70s. It was the first formation I played in at junior school which wasn't surprising as the headmaster (who doubled as games teacher) looked like he was straight out of the 50s, as many older men did in the 70s.

2-3-5 as we lined up! Obviously not all the numbers make sense in the modern game - 4, 5, 6 were midfielders, hence 'half' and 2 and 3 were full backs because they stayed back. A lot of the terminology remains even though it's no longer relevant or even misleading - a centre half is now a defender.

Pretty sure we've been around this block before, though.

Poll: QPR to finish 7th or Brentford to drop out of the top 6?

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Team formation on 19:04 - Jan 17 with 478 viewsqpr_1968

Team formation on 19:01 - Jan 17 by kensalriser

That's absolutely it (subject to superstan's comment re LW v RW) but that formation is more like from the 50s or even before and was already long gone from the pro game in the 70s. It was the first formation I played in at junior school which wasn't surprising as the headmaster (who doubled as games teacher) looked like he was straight out of the 50s, as many older men did in the 70s.

2-3-5 as we lined up! Obviously not all the numbers make sense in the modern game - 4, 5, 6 were midfielders, hence 'half' and 2 and 3 were full backs because they stayed back. A lot of the terminology remains even though it's no longer relevant or even misleading - a centre half is now a defender.

Pretty sure we've been around this block before, though.


could swear every position on the back of the old qpr 60' and 70's square programmes were layed out that way.

Poll: how many games this season....home/away.

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Team formation on 20:28 - Jan 17 with 421 viewsnix

Team formation on 18:50 - Jan 17 by qpr_1968

as long as they are wearing squad numbers, none of it makes sense.

not disbelieving you, but where have you got your number positions from.

as i say, the ones and only ones i know are from the early 70's and before.


Sorry I might have misunderstood. I wasn't talking about actual squad numbers but positions the coaches use a number to describe. So in interviews announcing new players they'll say e.g. that his normal position is a six but he can play as an eight. But that may not be what you mean...
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Team formation on 21:55 - Jan 17 with 334 viewskensalriser

Team formation on 18:45 - Jan 17 by dmm

Talking of squad numbers, it's rather strange we don't have a no 9 this season. It makes you wonder if they had reserved that shirt for a player who ended up not coming in.


Didn't Dykes have the 9?

Poll: QPR to finish 7th or Brentford to drop out of the top 6?

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Team formation on 09:53 - Jan 18 with 170 viewsdmm

Team formation on 21:55 - Jan 17 by kensalriser

Didn't Dykes have the 9?


Yes, and late in the summer transfer window. But the club will have known Dykes was moving on earlier than that and could have lined up a replacement. In the end, they decided to stick with Celar and Frey who already had their numbers.
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Team formation on 09:57 - Jan 18 with 154 viewsHAYESBOY

I would say its still a 4-2-3-1. Varane and Field play closer than Field and Morgan would to make it a 4 behind the 1 striker.
I think we just seem more flexible in that it cam turn into a 4-1-4-1 quickly and even a 4-5-1 off the ball. IMO.

Smells like a trout farm in here

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