| LA Fires 02:25 - Jan 12 with 580 views | mangohilljack |
What’s your take on this?
Could this be a land grab for a smart city initiative tied to the 2028 Olympics (e.g., SmartLA2028)?
Historically, events of this scale have sparked speculation about ulterior motives. We’ve seen similar narratives in cases like Maui, Australia, and Texas.
Even in ancient history, figures like Nero allegedly burned Rome to clear space for his grand building projects. Is this simply a modern iteration of an age-old tactic? |  | | |  |
| LA Fires on 03:33 - Jan 12 with 533 views | Kilkennyjack |
No. |  |
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| LA Fires on 08:29 - Jan 12 with 466 views | mangohilljack |
Fair play—it must have taken quite some time and effort to put that answer together. | | | |
| LA Fires on 09:53 - Jan 12 with 414 views | onehunglow |
| LA Fires on 08:29 - Jan 12 by mangohilljack |
Fair play—it must have taken quite some time and effort to put that answer together. |
Who knows the secret of the black magic box | |
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| LA Fires on 10:30 - Jan 12 with 395 views | 1983 |
I have a little bit of fire fighting experience from a previous life
LA is built on and around canyons, valleys whatever you want to call them where fire can jump from a top of valley to another top valley which will then spread down the valleys very much like a volcano affect it literally spreads like the wind which it makes it harder to fight it. I can imagine over the next few days in those valleys that is where they will find more bodies that were trapped its a very dry west facing state on the coast and with that wind makes it the perfect storm and sadly another disaster that we (US) will have to learn from. |  |
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| LA Fires on 10:33 - Jan 12 with 391 views | Plankton |
What a ridiculous post.
Nutjobs everywhere these days believing in all sorts of crap without proof.
Joe Rogan, Ant Middleton, Tate, Le Tissier et al have a lot to answer for. | | | |
| LA Fires on 10:41 - Jan 12 with 381 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If there’s one thing that America is definitely short of its space to build on. |  |
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| LA Fires on 11:33 - Jan 12 with 352 views | mangohilljack |
| LA Fires on 10:33 - Jan 12 by Plankton |
What a ridiculous post.
Nutjobs everywhere these days believing in all sorts of crap without proof.
Joe Rogan, Ant Middleton, Tate, Le Tissier et al have a lot to answer for. |
I asked for people’s thoughts because, by now, even someone like you must recognise that a wide range of theories are circulating.
I’ll admit, some of them sound quite far-fetched. However, we’re living in a world where greed and corruption permeate so many entities that it’s difficult to rule anything out. This makes uncovering the truth an increasingly challenging task.
It’s clear you choose to believe everything presented to you by mainstream media (MSM), and that’s your prerogative. However, MSM has a track record of selectively presenting information to shape public perception.
I certainly wouldn’t dismiss those who question government narratives as "nut jobs" simply because you may lack the capacity or willingness to think critically yourself. | | | |
| LA Fires on 12:31 - Jan 12 with 313 views | SullutaCreturned |
| LA Fires on 11:33 - Jan 12 by mangohilljack |
I asked for people’s thoughts because, by now, even someone like you must recognise that a wide range of theories are circulating.
I’ll admit, some of them sound quite far-fetched. However, we’re living in a world where greed and corruption permeate so many entities that it’s difficult to rule anything out. This makes uncovering the truth an increasingly challenging task.
It’s clear you choose to believe everything presented to you by mainstream media (MSM), and that’s your prerogative. However, MSM has a track record of selectively presenting information to shape public perception.
I certainly wouldn’t dismiss those who question government narratives as "nut jobs" simply because you may lack the capacity or willingness to think critically yourself. |
A wide range of theories, always is, from the lunatic fringe to the sane and logical.
Land grab.....how much of this land would be available for such a grab? Much of the now burnt out areas are suburbs where people will want to rebuild their homes. So a land grab isn't likely.
Now greed, will unscrupulous try and capitalise, absolutely 100% without a doubt, they always do. Will they succeed? Who knows.
Now government narratives, anybody who trusts a politician is, in my opinion, just as barmy as someone who thinks that everything that happens is a set up by greedy unscrupulous people.
These fires are mostly nature having it's way. Some were started on purpose and possibly even accidentally such as the one in the Pallisades area which is a known high risk area. The Santa Ana winds are strong and drive fires quickky and they defelop into fire storms which cause even stronger winds which make the fires jump large gaps. The hotter it gets, the stronger the winds become, the worse the fire becomes. I saw that on the news, live from California. I wtched people crying because they'd lost everything including family, I saw people refusing to leave their homes and trying to fight the fires with housepipes, I saw people running, abandoning cars and leaving everything they owned that they had managed to cram in because the traficc was clogged up so badly and the fires were catching them up with the smoke blinding them. Panic broke out. This isn't a government narrative, not for those people who have lost all they had or those who have died. This is a disaster. | | | |
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| LA Fires on 12:50 - Jan 12 with 292 views | onehunglow |
| LA Fires on 12:31 - Jan 12 by SullutaCreturned |
A wide range of theories, always is, from the lunatic fringe to the sane and logical.
Land grab.....how much of this land would be available for such a grab? Much of the now burnt out areas are suburbs where people will want to rebuild their homes. So a land grab isn't likely.
Now greed, will unscrupulous try and capitalise, absolutely 100% without a doubt, they always do. Will they succeed? Who knows.
Now government narratives, anybody who trusts a politician is, in my opinion, just as barmy as someone who thinks that everything that happens is a set up by greedy unscrupulous people.
These fires are mostly nature having it's way. Some were started on purpose and possibly even accidentally such as the one in the Pallisades area which is a known high risk area. The Santa Ana winds are strong and drive fires quickky and they defelop into fire storms which cause even stronger winds which make the fires jump large gaps. The hotter it gets, the stronger the winds become, the worse the fire becomes. I saw that on the news, live from California. I wtched people crying because they'd lost everything including family, I saw people refusing to leave their homes and trying to fight the fires with housepipes, I saw people running, abandoning cars and leaving everything they owned that they had managed to cram in because the traficc was clogged up so badly and the fires were catching them up with the smoke blinding them. Panic broke out. This isn't a government narrative, not for those people who have lost all they had or those who have died. This is a disaster. |
It’s why I m always puzzled at Americans bemoaning our climate .
Hurricanes aren’t nice.neither are tornadoes so that’s the south and Midwest out.
Now factor in the serene heat in Arizona and south west and the fires in California and the sheer biting cold of the Great Lakes region and it’s makes one realise we ain’t too bad here . | |
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| LA Fires on 12:55 - Jan 12 with 289 views | mangohilljack |
I've got one question for you
WHY did they shut off the water? | | | |
| LA Fires on 14:43 - Jan 12 with 217 views | controversial_jack |
| LA Fires on 12:50 - Jan 12 by onehunglow |
It’s why I m always puzzled at Americans bemoaning our climate .
Hurricanes aren’t nice.neither are tornadoes so that’s the south and Midwest out.
Now factor in the serene heat in Arizona and south west and the fires in California and the sheer biting cold of the Great Lakes region and it’s makes one realise we ain’t too bad here . |
As i write this, the winter temp in LA is 7c riding to a roasting 19c, so hardly down to climate change | | | |
| LA Fires on 15:24 - Jan 12 with 185 views | onehunglow |
| LA Fires on 14:43 - Jan 12 by controversial_jack |
As i write this, the winter temp in LA is 7c riding to a roasting 19c, so hardly down to climate change |
Have I mentioned climate change
Assumptions. Don’t . | |
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| LA Fires on 20:43 - Jan 12 with 79 views | SullutaCreturned |
| LA Fires on 12:55 - Jan 12 by mangohilljack |
I've got one question for you
WHY did they shut off the water? |
Except they didn't shut it off, officialy anyway...
LADWP’s explanation for the shortage comes down to three nearby water tanks, each with a storage capacity of about a million gallons. These tanks help maintain enough pressure for water to flow from fire hydrants in uphill areas — but the pressure had decreased due to heavy water use, and officials knew the tanks couldn’t keep up the drain forever.
“We pushed the system to the extreme,” LADWP CEO Janisse Quiñones said in a news conference. “Four times the normal demand was seen for 15 hours straight, which lowered our water pressure.”
According to LADWP, the tanks’ water supply needed to be replenished in order to provide enough pressure for the water to flow through fire hydrants uphill. But officials said as firefighters drew more and more water from the trunk line, or main supply, they used water that would have refilled the tanks, eventually depleting them.
There you go. The water wasn't shut off, it was running out and they couldn't refill it quick enough to keep pressure up. Hundredss of fire hoses going full blast for 15 hours and more, it could have that effect. | | | |
| LA Fires on 21:17 - Jan 12 with 54 views | controversial_jack |
| LA Fires on 15:24 - Jan 12 by onehunglow |
Have I mentioned climate change
Assumptions. Don’t . |
I didn't state you had. | | | |
| LA Fires on 21:49 - Jan 12 with 38 views | Boundy |
| LA Fires on 20:43 - Jan 12 by SullutaCreturned |
Except they didn't shut it off, officialy anyway...
LADWP’s explanation for the shortage comes down to three nearby water tanks, each with a storage capacity of about a million gallons. These tanks help maintain enough pressure for water to flow from fire hydrants in uphill areas — but the pressure had decreased due to heavy water use, and officials knew the tanks couldn’t keep up the drain forever.
“We pushed the system to the extreme,” LADWP CEO Janisse Quiñones said in a news conference. “Four times the normal demand was seen for 15 hours straight, which lowered our water pressure.”
According to LADWP, the tanks’ water supply needed to be replenished in order to provide enough pressure for the water to flow through fire hydrants uphill. But officials said as firefighters drew more and more water from the trunk line, or main supply, they used water that would have refilled the tanks, eventually depleting them.
There you go. The water wasn't shut off, it was running out and they couldn't refill it quick enough to keep pressure up. Hundredss of fire hoses going full blast for 15 hours and more, it could have that effect. |
One of the reason they couldn't refill the tanks was they allowed storm water normally collected to disperse. | |
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