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One thing that stands out 22:25 - Dec 14 with 1033 viewsbuilthjack

When Cabango and Darling play as out and out centre halves, with Grimes 30 yards or so forward, we do well. The centre backs go one left, one right, and know what they are doing.
Recently Grimes has gone back to his old trick of dropping in amongst them. Our game changes, we struggle. For heavens sake get him from there.

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One thing that stands out on 23:21 - Dec 14 with 947 viewsonehunglow

It should do

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One thing that stands out on 08:06 - Dec 15 with 802 viewssons_of_omri

The manager needs to sort this and perhaps he’s trying to but Grimes is a law unto himself. This is what happens when a player is more or less told they are undroppable .
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One thing that stands out on 09:21 - Dec 15 with 712 viewsonehunglow

Cabango is limited but a solid enough defender. He is not comfortable or capable of being one who can bring the ball out a la Van Dijk.Darling is better at it.
We do not need Grimes coming back to collect the ball from them
This is basic
This can be stopped
Why isn’t it

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One thing that stands out on 09:40 - Dec 15 with 673 viewsWhiterockin

One thing that stands out on 09:21 - Dec 15 by onehunglow

Cabango is limited but a solid enough defender. He is not comfortable or capable of being one who can bring the ball out a la Van Dijk.Darling is better at it.
We do not need Grimes coming back to collect the ball from them
This is basic
This can be stopped
Why isn’t it


Both Cabango and Darling were caught bringing the ball out yesterday they were shut down and forced into errors.
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One thing that stands out on 09:43 - Dec 15 with 646 viewsonehunglow

One thing that stands out on 09:40 - Dec 15 by Whiterockin

Both Cabango and Darling were caught bringing the ball out yesterday they were shut down and forced into errors.


That’s my point ,mun.
I must have expressed myself badly.
Apologies for that
I repeat,Cabango is solid enough but limited and in no way a footballing CH .
Darling is better but often loses possession eventually

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One thing that stands out on 10:21 - Dec 15 with 575 viewsRichardO

One thing that stands out on 09:43 - Dec 15 by onehunglow

That’s my point ,mun.
I must have expressed myself badly.
Apologies for that
I repeat,Cabango is solid enough but limited and in no way a footballing CH .
Darling is better but often loses possession eventually


It is what they are asked to do, would you say Key is a big cumbersome centrehalfor one of our better skilful players and yet a similarly has been caught out, we all have asked to get the ball forward quicker and to an extent we have but we have to realise that if teams are going to commit to closing us down the ball has to be released quicker, be it to safety or down the pitch to feet or into space we stopped picking the right options yesterday.
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One thing that stands out on 10:27 - Dec 15 with 562 viewsTomsyard

One thing that stands out on 09:43 - Dec 15 by onehunglow

That’s my point ,mun.
I must have expressed myself badly.
Apologies for that
I repeat,Cabango is solid enough but limited and in no way a footballing CH .
Darling is better but often loses possession eventually


That’s why the manager needs Grimes to drop in and collect the ball because he also realises it isn’t the strength of the central defenders and with respect to Cabango I wouldn’t want to rely on him to start our offensive play from deep. Most teams play exactly the same way; the full backs push up, centre backs split, holding midfielder drops in, Leon did it in years gone by so it’s certainly not new to us but he had better players in front of him so it made his game more effective for the team.
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One thing that stands out on 10:46 - Dec 15 with 537 viewsSullutaCreturned

One thing that stands out on 10:27 - Dec 15 by Tomsyard

That’s why the manager needs Grimes to drop in and collect the ball because he also realises it isn’t the strength of the central defenders and with respect to Cabango I wouldn’t want to rely on him to start our offensive play from deep. Most teams play exactly the same way; the full backs push up, centre backs split, holding midfielder drops in, Leon did it in years gone by so it’s certainly not new to us but he had better players in front of him so it made his game more effective for the team.


The big problem is, Grimes is no Leon and when he drops deep we often put ourselves under pressure and concede silly goals.

When we are pressed hard we need to play the percentage balls and our wide players need to be making runs for when the ball is sent long.

A good football team just doesn't stick rigidly to one style, they can play short and keep possession but will also play the long ball when needed. Even the big 6 sides use the long ball now and then.

We continue to create as many problems for ourselves as the opposition do.
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One thing that stands out on 11:57 - Dec 15 with 476 viewsonehunglow

One thing that stands out on 10:46 - Dec 15 by SullutaCreturned

The big problem is, Grimes is no Leon and when he drops deep we often put ourselves under pressure and concede silly goals.

When we are pressed hard we need to play the percentage balls and our wide players need to be making runs for when the ball is sent long.

A good football team just doesn't stick rigidly to one style, they can play short and keep possession but will also play the long ball when needed. Even the big 6 sides use the long ball now and then.

We continue to create as many problems for ourselves as the opposition do.


Grimes is not on the same planet as Leon was
I surely should not have all our play sanctioned by one player
It's incredible really
As for Key , he is not a defender to rely on any more than Cabango
He runs into trouble instead of away from it
I think he has qualities but again is being badly coached
He could be far better
Frankly, right now , If put him as a wide midfielder and put Naughton or Christie at right back
Not ideal , I know

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One thing that stands out on 12:22 - Dec 15 with 453 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

We couldn't play with a back five, Williams had recreated some of the problems by having Grimes so deep and pushing the full backs up the field.

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One thing that stands out on 12:48 - Dec 15 with 386 viewsTomsyard

One thing that stands out on 11:57 - Dec 15 by onehunglow

Grimes is not on the same planet as Leon was
I surely should not have all our play sanctioned by one player
It's incredible really
As for Key , he is not a defender to rely on any more than Cabango
He runs into trouble instead of away from it
I think he has qualities but again is being badly coached
He could be far better
Frankly, right now , If put him as a wide midfielder and put Naughton or Christie at right back
Not ideal , I know


I didn’t compare the ability of them as Leon wins hands down. He was playing with generally far better players and a lot of the play from defence was through him I’m saying the roles they are expected to play are very similar. We had players with speed and intelligence and forwards who could hold the ball up and bring others into the game and this pattern of play happened at speed so the ball could be played through the thirds or the ball could be sent long early making it difficult for the opposition defence to set up. We’ve got none of that with this team and haven’t for a while so the options are limited in how we set up our attacking play from deep which in my opinion makes it far harder for the defenders and Grimes to influence. We need speed and strength as a minimum in January if we’re serious about the play offs but they don’t come cheap.
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One thing that stands out on 14:49 - Dec 15 with 307 viewsmax936

One thing that stands out on 12:22 - Dec 15 by JACKMANANDBOY

We couldn't play with a back five, Williams had recreated some of the problems by having Grimes so deep and pushing the full backs up the field.


Grimes drops in because Ben and Harry are drawn wide because our fullbacks are caught up field, both Tymon and Key aren't great defenders.
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One thing that stands out on 15:25 - Dec 15 with 268 viewsonehunglow

One thing that stands out on 14:49 - Dec 15 by max936

Grimes drops in because Ben and Harry are drawn wide because our fullbacks are caught up field, both Tymon and Key aren't great defenders.
[Post edited 15 Dec 14:50]


And why does that happen ?
When it does , Franco is on his own
EOM is getting away with murder , quite frankly.
He is utterly anonymous

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One thing that stands out on 22:39 - Dec 15 with 130 viewsbuilthjack

One thing that stands out on 14:49 - Dec 15 by max936

Grimes drops in because Ben and Harry are drawn wide because our fullbacks are caught up field, both Tymon and Key aren't great defenders.
[Post edited 15 Dec 14:50]


They are actually poor defenders.

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