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Kaba ‘killing’ 13:45 - Oct 3 with 8005 viewsKeithHaynes

I see it’s now being referred to as a ‘killing’ despite the driver trying to kill officers after being pursued for two miles. He continued to ram police cars after being stopped. That is a deadly action in law. One officer shot him once as he feared for his and his own and colleagues safety.

What would you do ?

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 16:36 - Oct 23 with 1111 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 15:07 - Oct 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Thoroughly depressing.


No surprise
Abbots own son is a convicted criminal
Many opine we have no “communities” .
Many believe this diversity we read of is a shame . I do. Inner cities are ghettoes where one race feels separate from the laws of the land . Police can and should do nothing and let them get on with it. They can police themselves. They want to defund the police anyway .Let them.
Many see multiculturalism in a negative light.

Folks,it was the same in 81. Many black people detest white people and that’s fine if we accept that . We can tolerate each other without being forced to “ love “ one another .

We are a divided country and always have been


MPs simply taking the side of a criminal family simply because they are of the same colour
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:19 - Oct 23 with 1064 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Five poor takes on the Kaba case, usual suspects?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-five-worst-takes-on-the-chris-kaba-case/

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:26 - Oct 23 with 1055 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:19 - Oct 23 by JACKMANANDBOY

Five poor takes on the Kaba case, usual suspects?

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-five-worst-takes-on-the-chris-kaba-case/


Lamenting a criminals death purely because it suits them politically

Abbott ,Corbyn ,and Addy have a vested interest in lamenting deaths of even those who shoot people .Dead
And we allow this

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:30 - Oct 23 with 1049 viewsmajorraglan

Kaba ‘killing’ on 23:13 - Oct 22 by Luther27

I struggle to understand how the IOPC are above the rule of common law. I’m not sure where the Met go from here. Armed response officers no doubt will be taking a long hard look at this and wonder is it feasible to carry on volunteering for this duty.
This trial has revealed the officers identity which endangers his family. No officer in his right mind would risk his or hers family being subjugated to any form of violence based on their actions. I know I wouldn’t.


They aren’t above the law, but they do have the power to insist disciplinary proceedings are initiated. It’s a power afforded to them by Parliament and it’s a controversial one. It’s all about being able to hold the police to account and increasing confidence in the service.

I don’t agree with the double jeopardy it creates.
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:34 - Oct 23 with 1039 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:30 - Oct 23 by majorraglan

They aren’t above the law, but they do have the power to insist disciplinary proceedings are initiated. It’s a power afforded to them by Parliament and it’s a controversial one. It’s all about being able to hold the police to account and increasing confidence in the service.

I don’t agree with the double jeopardy it creates.


Here’s what they should consider
Why have firearms trained police at all if this is what happens when they pull triggers .
We have them as we don’t have all routinely armed police. I wish we had .
Police don’t want this as this is the result .
All firearms police should hand in their authority and let the “ community” sort out their own security issues unless filth like Corbyn and Abbott have better ideas .

Either us or them


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Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:54 - Oct 23 with 1003 viewsReslovenSwan1

people of colour in places like Lewisham Brixton and Hackney have the option like any community to police themselves. UK is a state whereby the Police operate by consent. If the PoC community do not give consent they can make moves to encourage people in their own community to police themselves.

They cannot it seems due this for 'cultural reasons' I assume.

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 18:12 - Oct 23 with 970 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:54 - Oct 23 by ReslovenSwan1

people of colour in places like Lewisham Brixton and Hackney have the option like any community to police themselves. UK is a state whereby the Police operate by consent. If the PoC community do not give consent they can make moves to encourage people in their own community to police themselves.

They cannot it seems due this for 'cultural reasons' I assume.


They have a different cukturecRes
It’s this
Take dope.
Leave those who supply it alone ,unless they are of different ethnicity

We live in different worlds to them

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 18:24 - Oct 23 with 968 viewsAnotherJohn

Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:54 - Oct 23 by ReslovenSwan1

people of colour in places like Lewisham Brixton and Hackney have the option like any community to police themselves. UK is a state whereby the Police operate by consent. If the PoC community do not give consent they can make moves to encourage people in their own community to police themselves.

They cannot it seems due this for 'cultural reasons' I assume.


The problem with the idea of a self-contained community that could be left to police itself is that such a community may spawn "county lines" gangs that damage young people in our communities.
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 18:41 - Oct 23 with 961 viewsFlashberryjack

Kaba ‘killing’ on 17:54 - Oct 23 by ReslovenSwan1

people of colour in places like Lewisham Brixton and Hackney have the option like any community to police themselves. UK is a state whereby the Police operate by consent. If the PoC community do not give consent they can make moves to encourage people in their own community to police themselves.

They cannot it seems due this for 'cultural reasons' I assume.


"encourage people in their own community to police themselves"
Sounds a bit like Sharia Law.

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 19:45 - Oct 23 with 904 viewsReslovenSwan1

Kaba ‘killing’ on 18:41 - Oct 23 by Flashberryjack

"encourage people in their own community to police themselves"
Sounds a bit like Sharia Law.


UK policing is policing by consent. The citizen is encouraged to help a policeman or women as they are unarmed. PoC police would apply British law not Muslim laws. The PoC have a duty to police their streets in proportion of the ethnic profile of London boroughs. If Brixton is 60% ethnic then that should be represented in the Police ethnic breakdown. This is consistent with Policing by consent.

If PoC do not have this proportion then they have the power by their own actions to resolve it. It is a classic " if you can do better" argument.

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 00:16 - Oct 24 with 838 viewsRobbie

As mentioned in an earlier posting , Diane Abbott has surfaced again to stir up differances in our Society , what an agitator to throw fuel on the fire to get noticed .

And Corbyn wanted her to be his Home Secretary if he was elected as PM .
Beggars belief the thought process of Politicians and their croonies and hangers on .

Taking the knee beckons again at a Football Stadium near you .
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 08:26 - Oct 24 with 778 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 18:41 - Oct 23 by Flashberryjack

"encourage people in their own community to police themselves"
Sounds a bit like Sharia Law.


But the they do police themselves already ,in many sink holes in London .
Try walking around downtown Lewisham or Hackney

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 09:12 - Oct 24 with 751 viewsBoundy

Kaba ‘killing’ on 08:26 - Oct 24 by onehunglow

But the they do police themselves already ,in many sink holes in London .
Try walking around downtown Lewisham or Hackney


My take on it , sad that he's dead ( for some), or glad he's been removed from society saving some other persons life. I know which camp I sit in.

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 09:32 - Oct 24 with 732 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 09:12 - Oct 24 by Boundy

My take on it , sad that he's dead ( for some), or glad he's been removed from society saving some other persons life. I know which camp I sit in.


Make no mistake,lives will have been saved by his exit

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 11:45 - Oct 24 with 703 viewsmajorraglan

Kaba ‘killing’ on 18:41 - Oct 23 by Flashberryjack

"encourage people in their own community to police themselves"
Sounds a bit like Sharia Law.


There’s nothing wrong with encouraging people from their own community to police themselves and efforts have been going on to that effect for the last 20 odd years, but it’s been met with limited success. The demographics in London have changed considerably over time and minorities make up around 40% of the population, having more people from minority communities makes sense and will make the Force more reflective of the population it police's. The main issue in London is that while the Met have had a decent amount of success in recruiting from some communities, the percentage of black recruits has barely changed.

When we recruit for police in Wales, the doors are open to everyone but we want local people to join because they have an interest and a stake in their communities.
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:13 - Oct 24 with 690 viewsFlashberryjack

Kaba ‘killing’ on 11:45 - Oct 24 by majorraglan

There’s nothing wrong with encouraging people from their own community to police themselves and efforts have been going on to that effect for the last 20 odd years, but it’s been met with limited success. The demographics in London have changed considerably over time and minorities make up around 40% of the population, having more people from minority communities makes sense and will make the Force more reflective of the population it police's. The main issue in London is that while the Met have had a decent amount of success in recruiting from some communities, the percentage of black recruits has barely changed.

When we recruit for police in Wales, the doors are open to everyone but we want local people to join because they have an interest and a stake in their communities.


With respect, that's a load of old bollox.

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 18:16 - Oct 24 with 636 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:13 - Oct 24 by Flashberryjack

With respect, that's a load of old bollox.


Glad I didn’t use such language to describe utter worlocks

Inner cities are basically a war zone

Blacks killing blacks but it’s ok apparently. It’s the police’s fault

The likes of Di,Bell and Jez are elected .

Ergo,they are supported in their views

Defund the police in London and use the savings for the rest of the country which is more deserving

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 11:52 - Oct 25 with 536 viewscontroversial_jack

Kaba ‘killing’ on 08:26 - Oct 24 by onehunglow

But the they do police themselves already ,in many sink holes in London .
Try walking around downtown Lewisham or Hackney


My cousin and his family live in Hackney and he has had no problems
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 12:19 - Oct 25 with 524 viewsFlashberryjack

Kaba ‘killing’ on 11:52 - Oct 25 by controversial_jack

My cousin and his family live in Hackney and he has had no problems


Yet !!!

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 12:38 - Oct 25 with 515 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Kaba ‘killing’ on 11:45 - Oct 24 by majorraglan

There’s nothing wrong with encouraging people from their own community to police themselves and efforts have been going on to that effect for the last 20 odd years, but it’s been met with limited success. The demographics in London have changed considerably over time and minorities make up around 40% of the population, having more people from minority communities makes sense and will make the Force more reflective of the population it police's. The main issue in London is that while the Met have had a decent amount of success in recruiting from some communities, the percentage of black recruits has barely changed.

When we recruit for police in Wales, the doors are open to everyone but we want local people to join because they have an interest and a stake in their communities.


Why should race and/or ethnicity even be considered? Why should you have to be black to police a black community? Black and Asian officers police predominantly white areas with no issue whatsoever.

Why is there an obsession with what colour people are?

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:11 - Oct 25 with 490 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 12:38 - Oct 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Why should race and/or ethnicity even be considered? Why should you have to be black to police a black community? Black and Asian officers police predominantly white areas with no issue whatsoever.

Why is there an obsession with what colour people are?


Because black people in London don’t trust the Police neither do they support them.
If they did ,they would turn over the dope dealing scum

No trouble in Hackney . Yeah course,baby

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:32 - Oct 25 with 469 viewspencoedjack

Kaba ‘killing’ on 12:38 - Oct 25 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

Why should race and/or ethnicity even be considered? Why should you have to be black to police a black community? Black and Asian officers police predominantly white areas with no issue whatsoever.

Why is there an obsession with what colour people are?


100% this ^
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 14:29 - Oct 25 with 438 viewsWhiterockin

Kaba ‘killing’ on 13:11 - Oct 25 by onehunglow

Because black people in London don’t trust the Police neither do they support them.
If they did ,they would turn over the dope dealing scum

No trouble in Hackney . Yeah course,baby


There's quite a few white people in Swansea with the same opinion.
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Kaba ‘killing’ on 15:17 - Oct 25 with 408 viewsonehunglow

Kaba ‘killing’ on 14:29 - Oct 25 by Whiterockin

There's quite a few white people in Swansea with the same opinion.


And many who aren’t keen on dope peddlers feeding kids outside schools

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Kaba ‘killing’ on 16:03 - Oct 25 with 390 viewsAnotherJohn

Kaba ‘killing’ on 15:17 - Oct 25 by onehunglow

And many who aren’t keen on dope peddlers feeding kids outside schools


Especially if this is organised by county lines gangs from Liverpool, Manchester or London.
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