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Any UI smokers? 18:12 - Aug 29 with 1448 viewsSouthamptonfan

Kier Starmer is going to ban smoking and vaping from pub gardens and outside areas, so that will include all those who smoke outside football grounds before the game, at half time and outside. I don't smoke or vape. But this is wrong imo. Does he really think that those who choose to smoke will stop smoking and the NHS won't have to deal with it anymore because of an outside ban? They will just smoke elsewhere, and still be a burden on the NHS. Some of our stewards will love that "Put your fag out or you're out (out in the streets)".
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Any UI smokers? on 18:21 - Aug 29 with 1391 viewsNinja9

They are NOT a burden on the NHS . the Tax paid by smokers is 4 times the cost to the NHS .
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Any UI smokers? on 18:33 - Aug 29 with 1361 viewsSouthamptonfan

Any UI smokers? on 18:21 - Aug 29 by Ninja9

They are NOT a burden on the NHS . the Tax paid by smokers is 4 times the cost to the NHS .


I am just quoting the reasoning for the ban, but the tax smokers pay might well pay for their treatment, I have no knowledge on that, but would be interested actually to know how much tax is reveived from cigarette sales and how much the NHS spends on treating people with smoking rekated illness. But in that note, sugar, alcohol, gambling whatever could be argued as a burden on the NHS. We can't ban everything!

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Any UI smokers? on 19:08 - Aug 29 with 1280 viewsNinja9

The biggest drain on the NHS with regard to Human behaviour is Obesity . Smokers get
blamed for draining NHS funds but , its not the case . The amount of Tax they pay on a packet of fags is 4 times what they cost the NHS . If Starmer gets his way he will kill pubs .
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Any UI smokers? on 20:46 - Aug 29 with 1123 viewssaint22

Any UI smokers? on 19:08 - Aug 29 by Ninja9

The biggest drain on the NHS with regard to Human behaviour is Obesity . Smokers get
blamed for draining NHS funds but , its not the case . The amount of Tax they pay on a packet of fags is 4 times what they cost the NHS . If Starmer gets his way he will kill pubs .


I agree
Something needs to be done about obesity
It’s a drain on everything. Fuel food oxygen space health services
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Any UI smokers? on 20:51 - Aug 29 with 1104 viewskingslandstand1

Any UI smokers? on 18:33 - Aug 29 by Southamptonfan

I am just quoting the reasoning for the ban, but the tax smokers pay might well pay for their treatment, I have no knowledge on that, but would be interested actually to know how much tax is reveived from cigarette sales and how much the NHS spends on treating people with smoking rekated illness. But in that note, sugar, alcohol, gambling whatever could be argued as a burden on the NHS. We can't ban everything!


We can't ban everything, ut Starmer will find a way to tax it
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Any UI smokers? on 20:53 - Aug 29 with 1104 viewskingslandstand1

Any UI smokers? on 19:08 - Aug 29 by Ninja9

The biggest drain on the NHS with regard to Human behaviour is Obesity . Smokers get
blamed for draining NHS funds but , its not the case . The amount of Tax they pay on a packet of fags is 4 times what they cost the NHS . If Starmer gets his way he will kill pubs .


We were talking about that tonight. The more they try to stop smokers smoking, the less tax they will get
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Any UI smokers? on 21:05 - Aug 29 with 1074 viewsCapt_Koons

Good. Ban it.
The one thing all the smokers I know have in common, beyond bad breath and yellow teeth, is low IQ.
Anything that keeps idiots out of my space is to be applauded. Well done Sir Kier.

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Any UI smokers? on 21:14 - Aug 29 with 1056 viewsJoiedevivre

Any UI smokers? on 20:53 - Aug 29 by kingslandstand1

We were talking about that tonight. The more they try to stop smokers smoking, the less tax they will get


Very much the old Yes Minister clip with an argument on this issue.

Less money in tax
More elderly with smokers not killed off = more money spent on pensions

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