| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 08:49 - Sep 24 with 2787 views | Dr_Winston |
A good player apallingly treated here. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 09:03 - Sep 24 with 2752 views | jack247 |
We should never have forced him back. Martin didn’t want him, he didn’t want to be here. We’d have surely got more than a million if we’d let him finish the season at Plymouth in the form he was in.
Instead, he went on strike, was used sparingly and out of position and drifted through games in a sulk.
He may well have got a better move and us a better fee if we’d just left him there. |  | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 09:07 - Sep 24 with 2745 views | KeithHaynes |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 08:49 - Sep 24 by Dr_Winston |
A good player apallingly treated here. |
You sound like the other bloke. |  |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:02 - Sep 24 with 2664 views | Whiterockin |
It looks like being benched paid off, I wonder what the reason was behind that. |  | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:06 - Sep 24 with 2648 views | RichardO |
Luke Cundle also got on the score sheet. | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:21 - Sep 24 with 2626 views | onehunglow |
I might have commented previously at the way our former coach insulted this boy.
Worse,was that the Martin PR wagon conned our fans into believing Whittaker was a dud.
We have let a potential diamond go.
A coach who destroyed and he is doing the same at Soton | |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:41 - Sep 24 with 2581 views | jack247 |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:21 - Sep 24 by onehunglow |
I might have commented previously at the way our former coach insulted this boy.
Worse,was that the Martin PR wagon conned our fans into believing Whittaker was a dud.
We have let a potential diamond go.
A coach who destroyed and he is doing the same at Soton |
Did you see him play for us? His attitude on the pitch was embarrassing.
Doesn’t matter how talented you are, or how badly you think you’ve been treated, neither of which I dispute at all, if you only get 10 minutes and you’re shunted out to the wing, you bust a gut to prove the manager wrong and force his hand into starting you in your best position.
He played like he was trying not to get injured, this was after he had refused to play at all.
From the little I saw of him, I thought he had the talent to do that. | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:44 - Sep 24 with 2577 views | KeithHaynes |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:21 - Sep 24 by onehunglow |
I might have commented previously at the way our former coach insulted this boy.
Worse,was that the Martin PR wagon conned our fans into believing Whittaker was a dud.
We have let a potential diamond go.
A coach who destroyed and he is doing the same at Soton |
When you say insult what did he say ?
He’s already been dropped for attitude at Plymouth. | |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:48 - Sep 24 with 2566 views | onehunglow |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:44 - Sep 24 by KeithHaynes |
When you say insult what did he say ?
He’s already been dropped for attitude at Plymouth. |
Morning Keith.
Not by words but deeds.
I know you didn’t appreciate those who weren’t as supportive of him as you.
I stand by every word | |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:48 - Sep 24 with 2563 views | KeithHaynes |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:48 - Sep 24 by onehunglow |
Morning Keith.
Not by words but deeds.
I know you didn’t appreciate those who weren’t as supportive of him as you.
I stand by every word |
I appreciate everyone. | |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 11:57 - Sep 24 with 2495 views | JJJack |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 10:44 - Sep 24 by KeithHaynes |
When you say insult what did he say ?
He’s already been dropped for attitude at Plymouth. |
Has he? When? He's started 7 of 8 league games.
Overall for Plymouth:
28 starts - 13 goals
For us: 8 starts, 6 goals including a hat trick as sub.
Only 22. Perhaps he just needs a proper Manager that can handle him. He certainly wasn't gonna get that from Martin who falls out with people more often than Piers Morgan. |  | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:02 - Sep 24 with 2484 views | KeithHaynes |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 11:57 - Sep 24 by JJJack |
Has he? When? He's started 7 of 8 league games.
Overall for Plymouth:
28 starts - 13 goals
For us: 8 starts, 6 goals including a hat trick as sub.
Only 22. Perhaps he just needs a proper Manager that can handle him. He certainly wasn't gonna get that from Martin who falls out with people more often than Piers Morgan. |
That will be because his developmental style of training is lost on players that are all about themselves and not the bigger picture. You answered your own question on Whittaker by quoting his appearances this season. | |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:04 - Sep 24 with 2473 views | onehunglow |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 11:57 - Sep 24 by JJJack |
Has he? When? He's started 7 of 8 league games.
Overall for Plymouth:
28 starts - 13 goals
For us: 8 starts, 6 goals including a hat trick as sub.
Only 22. Perhaps he just needs a proper Manager that can handle him. He certainly wasn't gonna get that from Martin who falls out with people more often than Piers Morgan. |
Martin never did do anything else other than compliment his personality which made it incongruous as to why he spent so much time on the bench . | |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:11 - Sep 24 with 2456 views | Dr_Winston |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:02 - Sep 24 by KeithHaynes |
That will be because his developmental style of training is lost on players that are all about themselves and not the bigger picture. You answered your own question on Whittaker by quoting his appearances this season. |
It would seem to be fairly apparent by now that Martin's style of training is lost on players in general. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:17 - Sep 24 with 2451 views | JJJack |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:02 - Sep 24 by KeithHaynes |
That will be because his developmental style of training is lost on players that are all about themselves and not the bigger picture. You answered your own question on Whittaker by quoting his appearances this season. |
So he was dropped to the bench for his "attitude" but came on in said game? I see. Not too serious then eh?! | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:19 - Sep 24 with 2448 views | JJJack |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:02 - Sep 24 by KeithHaynes |
That will be because his developmental style of training is lost on players that are all about themselves and not the bigger picture. You answered your own question on Whittaker by quoting his appearances this season. |
Out of interest Keith, please point out the players who improved under RM's "developmental" style? Because I can think of a number who flopped under him - Obafemi, Whittaker, Ntcham, Paterson etc. | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:20 - Sep 24 with 2448 views | Whiterockin |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:17 - Sep 24 by JJJack |
So he was dropped to the bench for his "attitude" but came on in said game? I see. Not too serious then eh?! |
But the fact still stands. It looks as if he learnt his lesson though. We will just have to see how the rest of the season pans out for him. | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:25 - Sep 24 with 2442 views | JJJack |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:20 - Sep 24 by Whiterockin |
But the fact still stands. It looks as if he learnt his lesson though. We will just have to see how the rest of the season pans out for him. |
Good God man, even Ronaldo was dropped for "attitude" at times. The kid has scored more goals this season than any of our strikers and in a newly promoted side. Interesting to see Cundle scoring goals as well. £1m for MW was a giveaway and SCFC handled him very poorly and not to our interests. | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:29 - Sep 24 with 2433 views | Whiterockin |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:25 - Sep 24 by JJJack |
Good God man, even Ronaldo was dropped for "attitude" at times. The kid has scored more goals this season than any of our strikers and in a newly promoted side. Interesting to see Cundle scoring goals as well. £1m for MW was a giveaway and SCFC handled him very poorly and not to our interests. |
As I say time will tell, prior to yesterday he had scored one goal. Yes he has scored one goal more than Jerry Yates, but its early days. | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 13:18 - Sep 24 with 2388 views | KeithHaynes |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 12:19 - Sep 24 by JJJack |
Out of interest Keith, please point out the players who improved under RM's "developmental" style? Because I can think of a number who flopped under him - Obafemi, Whittaker, Ntcham, Paterson etc. |
That’s opinion.
Piroe
Manning
For certain.
Downes definitely. | |
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| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 13:42 - Sep 24 with 2355 views | Whiterockin |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 13:18 - Sep 24 by KeithHaynes |
That’s opinion.
Piroe
Manning
For certain.
Downes definitely. |
I think you could add Wood in there. | | | |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 13:56 - Sep 24 with 2336 views | jack247 |
| Hat trick for whittaker yesterdsy on 11:57 - Sep 24 by JJJack |
Has he? When? He's started 7 of 8 league games.
Overall for Plymouth:
28 starts - 13 goals
For us: 8 starts, 6 goals including a hat trick as sub.
Only 22. Perhaps he just needs a proper Manager that can handle him. He certainly wasn't gonna get that from Martin who falls out with people more often than Piers Morgan. |
Fair play, I’ve never seen stats massaged like that before. Don’t count the games he didn’t start, but do count the goals he scored in them.
I agree with your last comment, Martin certainly didn’t get the best out of him. Cooper didn’t want to know either and Duff/Watson must have been happy to let him go. I don’t doubt his quality though and I’m sure you’re right, there’s a cracking player there under the right manager. | | | |
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