| Dominic Raaaaab 18:52 - Apr 20 with 4665 views | britferry |
Saaaacked in the morning? |  |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:21 - Apr 22 with 955 views | johnlangy |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 22:57 - Apr 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Sounds a bit like like Good all John Prescott when he punched a protester he was Deputy prime minister under Tony Blair. |
Nothing like it felix as you well know. The protester attacked him, albeit with just an egg. He simply reacted the way many people would. | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:22 - Apr 22 with 950 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:12 - Apr 22 by Gwyn737 |
So with Raab’s ‘robust’ manner in standing up to these left wing, liberal, woke, snowflake civil servants, what exactly did he achieve in his 7 years on the front bench, 5 of which were in the cabinet? |
A lot more than these woke civil servants.
Since just before covoid rhe productivity of the public sector has fallen by 7.5% well the private sector productivity is above pre covoid levels.
Seems that with 50% of civil servants still working from home in some departments they are getting less done. | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:25 - Apr 22 with 940 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:21 - Apr 22 by johnlangy |
Nothing like it felix as you well know. The protester attacked him, albeit with just an egg. He simply reacted the way many people would. |
He reacted in a way a few people might react. Did not see out King punch anyone when they threw eggs at him | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:37 - Apr 22 with 935 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:22 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
A lot more than these woke civil servants.
Since just before covoid rhe productivity of the public sector has fallen by 7.5% well the private sector productivity is above pre covoid levels.
Seems that with 50% of civil servants still working from home in some departments they are getting less done. |
44% of graduate jobs currently have an aspect of home working so not that different really.
If you’re saying the civil servants achieved less than Raab, what did he achieve?
I can list his disasters if you like? | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:43 - Apr 22 with 926 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:37 - Apr 22 by Gwyn737 |
44% of graduate jobs currently have an aspect of home working so not that different really.
If you’re saying the civil servants achieved less than Raab, what did he achieve?
I can list his disasters if you like? |
Yrs I can list the disaster areas since covoid
Long delays at DVLA getting licence renewals especially HGV licences. No staff at DVLA to answer phones.
Long delays getting new passports issued. No staff to answer phones at passport offices.
A lot of the civil service jobs can only be done at their offices.
That is why their productivity has fallen by 7.5%.
Most if not 90% of people in the private sector go to work in their workplace as the jobs cannot be done from home. | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:48 - Apr 22 with 929 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:43 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Yrs I can list the disaster areas since covoid
Long delays at DVLA getting licence renewals especially HGV licences. No staff at DVLA to answer phones.
Long delays getting new passports issued. No staff to answer phones at passport offices.
A lot of the civil service jobs can only be done at their offices.
That is why their productivity has fallen by 7.5%.
Most if not 90% of people in the private sector go to work in their workplace as the jobs cannot be done from home. |
Fair play, you make Kilks look centrist.
13 years of Tory rule and everything’s cr*p. Is anything their fault? | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:00 - Apr 22 with 923 views | max936 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:48 - Apr 22 by Gwyn737 |
Fair play, you make Kilks look centrist.
13 years of Tory rule and everything’s cr*p. Is anything their fault? |
Spot on Gwyn, whenever the Tories are correctly called out, he comes back with, but labour etc.
He'd do well in the house of commons, that's full of denialists there as well, blame deflection its called!
Pathetic is the proper term! |  |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:04 - Apr 22 with 921 views | onehunglow |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:48 - Apr 22 by Gwyn737 |
Fair play, you make Kilks look centrist.
13 years of Tory rule and everything’s cr*p. Is anything their fault? |
In fairness Gwyn,with much respect,you come over a# one of a rather left persuasion and any matter that can be used to bash the Tories is welcomed.
In this case,we are talking about bullying whose definition has become wider .
I must have had over a hundred bullies for managers in my lifetime. In the day, you simply did as 6u were told . It’s why the Military have “ bullies” . In a combat situation,there is no time for discussion unless you want to end up in a body bag .
We are drifting towards collective insanity
We are no more respectful a society,simply more disingenuous .I see people pining for the poor when the reality is they wouldn’t wipe their feet on them . | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:04 - Apr 22 with 920 views | max936 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:22 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
A lot more than these woke civil servants.
Since just before covoid rhe productivity of the public sector has fallen by 7.5% well the private sector productivity is above pre covoid levels.
Seems that with 50% of civil servants still working from home in some departments they are getting less done. |
What you know about the public sector then, I know for a fact that a most if not all were told to stay at home and work from there.
Especially those with vulnerability or those who lived with someone who was vulnerable, correct decision 100%. | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:05 - Apr 22 with 919 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:00 - Apr 22 by max936 |
Spot on Gwyn, whenever the Tories are correctly called out, he comes back with, but labour etc.
He'd do well in the house of commons, that's full of denialists there as well, blame deflection its called!
Pathetic is the proper term! |
To be fair max, it’s sometimes the Brynglas tunnels 😉 | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:21 - Apr 22 with 912 views | max936 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:05 - Apr 22 by Gwyn737 |
To be fair max, it’s sometimes the Brynglas tunnels 😉 |
He's got a point there though. | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 14:15 - Apr 22 with 904 views | KeithHaynes |
Quick reminder, abuse is welcome on other sites but not on here. |  |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 14:43 - Apr 22 with 898 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 13:04 - Apr 22 by onehunglow |
In fairness Gwyn,with much respect,you come over a# one of a rather left persuasion and any matter that can be used to bash the Tories is welcomed.
In this case,we are talking about bullying whose definition has become wider .
I must have had over a hundred bullies for managers in my lifetime. In the day, you simply did as 6u were told . It’s why the Military have “ bullies” . In a combat situation,there is no time for discussion unless you want to end up in a body bag .
We are drifting towards collective insanity
We are no more respectful a society,simply more disingenuous .I see people pining for the poor when the reality is they wouldn’t wipe their feet on them . |
I am left of centre however I have voted Tory previously.
I have on occasion praised them (recently I defended Sunak on the childcare issue)
However, the Tory part since 2016 have been a shambles. | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 14:54 - Apr 22 with 880 views | max936 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 14:15 - Apr 22 by KeithHaynes |
Quick reminder, abuse is welcome on other sites but not on here. |
Fair enough, but where is the abuse on this thread Keith? I aimed some at the MP, but I haven't seen any directed at a poster. | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 14:59 - Apr 22 with 879 views | johnlangy |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:25 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
He reacted in a way a few people might react. Did not see out King punch anyone when they threw eggs at him |
'Nothing like it felix as you well know. The protester attacked him, albeit with just an egg. He simply reacted the way many people would.'
I believe if we did a quick poll on here you would find that a pretty substantial majority, certainly not a few, would say they'd react in a similar way to John Prescott.
Your original point comparing JP with Raab is yet another of the hundreds of your anti Labour posts while defending the absolute shower of you know what that the Con government are. | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 15:14 - Apr 22 with 876 views | onehunglow |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 12:02 - Apr 22 by Fireboy2 |
You had better take that back fella. |
Take what back exactly
Felix can vote as he feels and should be able to do so free from insults from you | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 17:25 - Apr 22 with 850 views | majorraglan |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 08:34 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
An egg but Prescott was always a bully in the commons or with his staff seems it was okay at the time.
Dangerous time from democracy when left wing civil servants can no refuse to do their job properly and hold up work of a democratically elected government.
Seems that over 40 people complained only 20 were deemed worth investigating of which 18 were spurious complaints and only two were upheld.
It sets a precedent that politically motivated civil servants can now complain of very low level bullying to get rid of a minister who policies they don't like.
Wonder if the same low level of bullying will be applied to unions and their picket lines. |
Who’s to say they’re left wing civil servants? I’d have thought that most of the people engaging with a Minister of State are very senior, potentially Oxbridge and most certainly not left wing. It appears a number of the people involved have worked with Senior Ministers for many years and never had issues. We’re not talking junior oiks here.
Forty people have complained, that’s a huge number, 20 of the cases were deemed sufficient to be investigation and eventually 2 were actually proven to be bullying. There could be some substance to the other 38 complaints but not to the extent the conduct became bullying. | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 19:56 - Apr 22 with 836 views | Gwyn737 |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 17:25 - Apr 22 by majorraglan |
Who’s to say they’re left wing civil servants? I’d have thought that most of the people engaging with a Minister of State are very senior, potentially Oxbridge and most certainly not left wing. It appears a number of the people involved have worked with Senior Ministers for many years and never had issues. We’re not talking junior oiks here.
Forty people have complained, that’s a huge number, 20 of the cases were deemed sufficient to be investigation and eventually 2 were actually proven to be bullying. There could be some substance to the other 38 complaints but not to the extent the conduct became bullying. |
Remember Major, woke type words are now used by some to describe things they don’t like, like ministers resigning after bullying allegations are verified through an independent report, drag acts, women footballers and too many black people on the telly.
No evidence is necessary. | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 23:04 - Apr 22 with 798 views | Fireboy2 |
I am still waiting for an apology from felix for him calling me a bigot. |  | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 00:55 - Apr 23 with 775 views | Robbie |
We could now be moving into a culture of alleged shop floor bullying , seen it in a retail enviroment , that man manager , through his awful attitude made staff feel unwanted .
Alas , whatever level of management people bluff their way to acheive , some clowns get there , never know the background to these Raab complaints though .
Probably lawyers and spin doctors are working overtime , at a cost , to clear his name . | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 09:49 - Apr 23 with 733 views | onehunglow |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 14:43 - Apr 22 by Gwyn737 |
I am left of centre however I have voted Tory previously.
I have on occasion praised them (recently I defended Sunak on the childcare issue)
However, the Tory part since 2016 have been a shambles. |
I agree
I’ve voted for them all in my time
We are not talking about efficiency here but bullying | |
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| Dominic Raaaaab on 20:03 - Apr 23 with 608 views | ModeratorB |
As posted in another thread. Please can everyone stop with the personal insults ? It’s slowly creeping back in. It just descends into arguments that disrupts the threads.
Thank you | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 21:18 - Apr 23 with 580 views | ModeratorB |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 14:54 - Apr 22 by max936 |
Fair enough, but where is the abuse on this thread Keith? I aimed some at the MP, but I haven't seen any directed at a poster. |
It was deleted | | | |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 08:19 - Apr 25 with 520 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Dominic Raaaaab on 23:04 - Apr 22 by Fireboy2 |
I am still waiting for an apology from felix for him calling me a bigot. |
No need for an apology just look up the dictionary definition of bigot.
Bigot is not an insult just a noun. | |
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