| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? 12:18 - Dec 31 with 6961 views | Sadoldgit |
Good to see justice served with Maxwell’s conviction. There must be a number of people crapping themselves now in case she is prepared to spill the beans for a lighter sentence, our charming prince being one of them. |  | | |  |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 19:31 - Jan 3 with 1537 views | Poirot |
No surprise the girl involved allegedly with Andrew took a massive cash pay out. She was what 17yrs old and knew what she was doing. |  | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 20:18 - Jan 3 with 1485 views | Kennington |
I’m pro royals, but if Andrew has done anything wrong then I hope he gets the heaviest punishment going. The guy could have any call girl he wanted, yet if the allegations are true he’d in the literal sense be a kiddy fiddler. Even if the allegations aren’t true, his friendship with Epstein and Maxwell is awful for the royals. Even the name Maxwell should have sent alarm bells at the time to the Windsors. It seems no one did their diligence on these people and Andrew was probably to some degree used by Epstein. |  |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 21:07 - Jan 3 with 1457 views | pjt50 |
If Andrew gets off because of this 2009 settlement it won't look great for him. The only way he's going to restore his reputation is if he contests the case & produces evidence about not sweating/Pizza Express. Although if he had any why wouldn't he have done it by now? | |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 21:14 - Jan 3 with 1453 views | 1885_SFC |
As usual - money talks. |  |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 09:40 - Jan 4 with 1267 views | saint68 |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 21:14 - Jan 3 by 1885_SFC |
As usual - money talks. |
He's guilty as fuk, he knows it, his mum knows it, and so does everyone looking on...dirty bugger!!! | |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 12:43 - Jan 4 with 1232 views | Poirot |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 09:40 - Jan 4 by saint68 |
He's guilty as fuk, he knows it, his mum knows it, and so does everyone looking on...dirty bugger!!! |
Any actual evidence ? nope just people that dont like the royals, whinging about the royals. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 13:03 - Jan 4 with 1222 views | Sadoldgit |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 12:43 - Jan 4 by Poirot |
Any actual evidence ? nope just people that dont like the royals, whinging about the royals. |
I agree and I hope that it goes to court and that if he is guilty, he is found guilty. What people think he has or hadn’t done doesn’t mean a thing without a conviction. They also need to have a look at this whole process of “buying” innocence too. People should not be able to avoid justice for their actions because a piece of paper has been signed and money exchanged hands. The rich and privileged should not be able to make these things go away just because they have a lot of money. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 13:06 - Jan 4 with 1217 views | Heisenberg |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 12:43 - Jan 4 by Poirot |
Any actual evidence ? nope just people that dont like the royals, whinging about the royals. |
His arm round the waist of a young girl with a woman convicted of trafficking minors to be abused by a paedophile in the background doesn’t look good. Add to the fact that Windsor visited Epstein after he had been convicted is dodgy. Would you hang out with someone who had been convicted of having sex with children ? He has said he has no recollection of details except visiting a Pizza Express. Don’t make me laugh. Guilty as hell |  |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 13:18 - Jan 4 with 1215 views | Sadoldgit |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 13:06 - Jan 4 by Heisenberg |
His arm round the waist of a young girl with a woman convicted of trafficking minors to be abused by a paedophile in the background doesn’t look good. Add to the fact that Windsor visited Epstein after he had been convicted is dodgy. Would you hang out with someone who had been convicted of having sex with children ? He has said he has no recollection of details except visiting a Pizza Express. Don’t make me laugh. Guilty as hell |
I am not saying that he is not guilty, just that the picture itself and the fact that he consorted with Epstein and Maxwell is not enough and that the evidence has to be proven in court. If he doesn’t go through due process and is found guilty it doesn’t matter whatever anyone thinks, the legal and official line will be that it didn’t happen and he will walk away Scot free. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 14:21 - Jan 4 with 1204 views | 1885_SFC |
Nice touch having Prince Philip taken to the church on the back of a Land Rover.
I wonder if they’ll have Prince Andrew buried in a 16 year old Escort? | |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 15:43 - Jan 4 with 1178 views | Bazza |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 13:18 - Jan 4 by Sadoldgit |
I am not saying that he is not guilty, just that the picture itself and the fact that he consorted with Epstein and Maxwell is not enough and that the evidence has to be proven in court. If he doesn’t go through due process and is found guilty it doesn’t matter whatever anyone thinks, the legal and official line will be that it didn’t happen and he will walk away Scot free. |
He won't be found guilty as he's being sued not prosecuted. So if he loses he'll pay damages, and since he's unemployed (unemployable?) mummy will have to pay. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 16:13 - Jan 4 with 1170 views | PaleRider |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 15:43 - Jan 4 by Bazza |
He won't be found guilty as he's being sued not prosecuted. So if he loses he'll pay damages, and since he's unemployed (unemployable?) mummy will have to pay. |
Maybe the royals can have a whip round(oh matron) and William can explain to Andrew the error of his ways and the impact on mental health.  | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:05 - Jan 4 with 1155 views | GasGiant |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 09:40 - Jan 4 by saint68 |
He's guilty as fuk, he knows it, his mum knows it, and so does everyone looking on...dirty bugger!!! |
No he isn't, and yes I have met him, albeit very briefly (at RNAS Yeovilton in 1983). He is though a dim, arrogant unpleasant buffoon, but it is clear in the age of the internet chequebook journalism that if there was more dirt to dig other than his own idiotic handling of a situation of his own making it would have been dug long before now. Of course he isn't a paedophile - that is a lifelong condition and there would have been whispers and rumours many many years before now, not least from his wardroom and his ever present protection people and there were no rumours when I was in - in fact stories were told that women especially American women threw themselves at him because bedding a Royal was the ambition of just about all the rich thick totty in New England at the time - he didn't have to lift a finger, which was just as well, but he did need trusted people to "facilitate" his liaisons and that meant any girl would also have had some kind of rule run over her even of only by fellow officers. I don't suppose he asked to see the birth certificate of every beautiful girl who made herself available, but did any of us when we were young? | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:12 - Jan 4 with 1150 views | Sadoldgit |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 15:43 - Jan 4 by Bazza |
He won't be found guilty as he's being sued not prosecuted. So if he loses he'll pay damages, and since he's unemployed (unemployable?) mummy will have to pay. |
The point being if he loses that effectively means he is guilty of having sex with an under aged girl was was effectively “trafficked”. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:26 - Jan 4 with 1145 views | Capt_Koons |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:05 - Jan 4 by GasGiant |
No he isn't, and yes I have met him, albeit very briefly (at RNAS Yeovilton in 1983). He is though a dim, arrogant unpleasant buffoon, but it is clear in the age of the internet chequebook journalism that if there was more dirt to dig other than his own idiotic handling of a situation of his own making it would have been dug long before now. Of course he isn't a paedophile - that is a lifelong condition and there would have been whispers and rumours many many years before now, not least from his wardroom and his ever present protection people and there were no rumours when I was in - in fact stories were told that women especially American women threw themselves at him because bedding a Royal was the ambition of just about all the rich thick totty in New England at the time - he didn't have to lift a finger, which was just as well, but he did need trusted people to "facilitate" his liaisons and that meant any girl would also have had some kind of rule run over her even of only by fellow officers. I don't suppose he asked to see the birth certificate of every beautiful girl who made herself available, but did any of us when we were young? |
"I don't suppose he asked to see the birth certificate of every beautiful girl who made herself available, but did any of us when we were young?"
When most if us were playing g around with 16-17 yo wr were also 16-17, not 50+
Dirty Pedo Prince from an inbred German family. |  |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:29 - Jan 4 with 1139 views | clunk76 |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 14:21 - Jan 4 by 1885_SFC |
Nice touch having Prince Philip taken to the church on the back of a Land Rover.
I wonder if they’ll have Prince Andrew buried in a 16 year old Escort? |
 This deserves so much more!
Brilliant! | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 18:22 - Jan 4 with 1122 views | Sadoldgit |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:05 - Jan 4 by GasGiant |
No he isn't, and yes I have met him, albeit very briefly (at RNAS Yeovilton in 1983). He is though a dim, arrogant unpleasant buffoon, but it is clear in the age of the internet chequebook journalism that if there was more dirt to dig other than his own idiotic handling of a situation of his own making it would have been dug long before now. Of course he isn't a paedophile - that is a lifelong condition and there would have been whispers and rumours many many years before now, not least from his wardroom and his ever present protection people and there were no rumours when I was in - in fact stories were told that women especially American women threw themselves at him because bedding a Royal was the ambition of just about all the rich thick totty in New England at the time - he didn't have to lift a finger, which was just as well, but he did need trusted people to "facilitate" his liaisons and that meant any girl would also have had some kind of rule run over her even of only by fellow officers. I don't suppose he asked to see the birth certificate of every beautiful girl who made herself available, but did any of us when we were young? |
I don’t think that the question is is he a paedophile. I think the question is has he had sex with an under aged girl (which is rape as girls under the age of consent cannot give consent) which was facilitated by a sex trafficker. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 18:30 - Jan 4 with 1110 views | saint68 |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:05 - Jan 4 by GasGiant |
No he isn't, and yes I have met him, albeit very briefly (at RNAS Yeovilton in 1983). He is though a dim, arrogant unpleasant buffoon, but it is clear in the age of the internet chequebook journalism that if there was more dirt to dig other than his own idiotic handling of a situation of his own making it would have been dug long before now. Of course he isn't a paedophile - that is a lifelong condition and there would have been whispers and rumours many many years before now, not least from his wardroom and his ever present protection people and there were no rumours when I was in - in fact stories were told that women especially American women threw themselves at him because bedding a Royal was the ambition of just about all the rich thick totty in New England at the time - he didn't have to lift a finger, which was just as well, but he did need trusted people to "facilitate" his liaisons and that meant any girl would also have had some kind of rule run over her even of only by fellow officers. I don't suppose he asked to see the birth certificate of every beautiful girl who made herself available, but did any of us when we were young? |
Oh GG, he may be Dim but surrounded by one of the most powerful PR teams ever assembled ( including his foray into shagging minors albeit in American law)
He's so guilty he's absolutely incoherent and pathetic in his denial...the Palace have left him out to hang .its obvious. | |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 18:49 - Jan 4 with 1085 views | kernow |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 18:22 - Jan 4 by Sadoldgit |
I don’t think that the question is is he a paedophile. I think the question is has he had sex with an under aged girl (which is rape as girls under the age of consent cannot give consent) which was facilitated by a sex trafficker. |
Forgive my confusion, but was this girl seventeen years old?
Depending upon the jurisdiction of the location of the alleged incident, was she older than the age of consent or not?
If she was then what is the charge to be answered? | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 20:37 - Jan 4 with 1021 views | Bazza |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 18:49 - Jan 4 by kernow |
Forgive my confusion, but was this girl seventeen years old?
Depending upon the jurisdiction of the location of the alleged incident, was she older than the age of consent or not?
If she was then what is the charge to be answered? |
The young woman was taken on as a masseuse and cornered against her will into having sex with middle aged men, perhaps | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 21:13 - Jan 4 with 998 views | GasGiant |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 17:26 - Jan 4 by Capt_Koons |
"I don't suppose he asked to see the birth certificate of every beautiful girl who made herself available, but did any of us when we were young?"
When most if us were playing g around with 16-17 yo wr were also 16-17, not 50+
Dirty Pedo Prince from an inbred German family. |
You need to look up the definition (and spelling) of "pedo" Itoldyouso. Old men who cavort with 17 year olds on one night stands are generally despicable unpleasant people but if you think that is paedophilia you are just as inaccurate today as you were in the past. It is not paedophilia, it is amoral opportunism. Only a fool or a man with a massive chip on his shoulder mixes them up just to feed his own targets. You'd better throw out all your rock albums because just about all of them apart from Cliff Richard have found that a 40 year age gap and a lack of morals are no hindrance. And before you start again I'm not defending him, I'm criticising you. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 21:23 - Jan 4 with 989 views | GasGiant |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 18:30 - Jan 4 by saint68 |
Oh GG, he may be Dim but surrounded by one of the most powerful PR teams ever assembled ( including his foray into shagging minors albeit in American law)
He's so guilty he's absolutely incoherent and pathetic in his denial...the Palace have left him out to hang .its obvious. |
Are we talking about whether his behaviour was despicable or whether he is a paedophile Saint? Regarding his character we are in complete agreement, but claiming that he has the same urges as Charles Whiting or Ian Huntley, is misguided and actually makes it easier for him to avoid censure because it is not true. He can be nailed for what he actually did - but dressing up his actions as paedophilia only opens the floor for chippy morons like Koons to wave his hatred round like a flag and convince himself he's doing a great service with it. | | | |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 23:11 - Jan 4 with 958 views | Sadoldgit |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 18:49 - Jan 4 by kernow |
Forgive my confusion, but was this girl seventeen years old?
Depending upon the jurisdiction of the location of the alleged incident, was she older than the age of consent or not?
If she was then what is the charge to be answered? |
Apparently it is alleged that Andrew had sex with her in 3 different locations. The age of consent various from state to state in the US and I think she was underaged in one of the locations.
Edit - it was the US Virgin Islands where the age of consent is 18 [Post edited 4 Jan 2022 23:18]
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 08:51 - Jan 5 with 879 views | Berber |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 19:31 - Jan 3 by Poirot |
No surprise the girl involved allegedly with Andrew took a massive cash pay out. She was what 17yrs old and knew what she was doing. |
I have no doubt that she is far from pure or perfect, but grown men taking advantage of teenagers is a bit squalid. They are all vipers in a box, and what is playing out has little to do with justice or decency on either side. Let them get on with it, they all deserve the public humiliation. |  |
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| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 08:54 - Jan 5 with 878 views | Berber |
| Brown trouser time for Prince Andrew? on 14:21 - Jan 4 by 1885_SFC |
Nice touch having Prince Philip taken to the church on the back of a Land Rover.
I wonder if they’ll have Prince Andrew buried in a 16 year old Escort? |
Apparently, he's already been buried in a 17 year old one. | |
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