| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread 13:04 - Jul 10 with 42651 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I think I’ve been quite lucky so far no?
Well managed England play will defeat the Italians by the odd goal.
Here’s me putting the gauntlet down:
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:23 - Jul 12 with 1948 views | francisbowles |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:07 - Jul 12 by gazza1 |
Sorry but I don't get or know what I am 'wrong' on!! |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:24 - Jul 12 with 1939 views | themodfather |
after it all has settled down, england started well and didn't get that "killer" 2nd goal, second half italy came on us, their goal came thru the ball like a pinball in our box, 3 chances to clear and off the post too, italy unbeaten in 3 years? 33 games before last night, some record at any level. we were the FIRST team to score first against them in 2 yrs, pickford saved 2 pens and it wasn't enough. i am PROUD of the team, gutted but been there time and time again. technically unbeaten in 7 games and just 2 conceded, one in each of the semi and finals games. was there a red card in there? chiellini? pulling saka back by the neck, very naughty and the tackle on grealish, was it as bad as the welsh red? or worse! in the groups italy looked the best team and were lucky v austria , i still think the goal was good and not off but hey ho they are a good team. always hard to beat and we fell just short again but a semi, semi and final is the progression many england fans wanted and it is there to see. that's 2 semi's and a final in 3 tournaments in a row, ffs that's great. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:28 - Jul 12 with 1907 views | derbyhoop |
I won't criticise any player for missing a penalty in that situation. None of us can know how the pressure can get to players. However often they practise in training nothing will prepare them fully. And the fact they are prepared to put themselves forward should be commended.
This is still a young side and to reach the final was an achievement.
Of the squad that have been involved only Henderson and Walker are approaching the end of their international careers and even then could still be involved in the World Cup next year. |  |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:30 - Jul 12 with 1895 views | 80s_Boy |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 11:52 - Jul 12 by francisbowles |
Some random thoughts.
Media going on about Italy's four World cups and two European Championships. Two of the World Cups were in the 1930's and their other Euro was a four team European Nations cup finals tournament in 1968. So a decent record but not a brilliant one.
The extra time against Denmark was a factor in our running out of steam. We looked so full of energy that night but that thirty mins combined with a days less rest took their toll.
Southgate got virtually all of his decisions correct before last night. All managers have to much numerous decisions and no one gets them all right. Unfortunately, last night was the time that Gareth probably got few wrong.
If the referee had issued one or possibly two red cards then we might not be in a deep depression today. |
Sorry to be a pedantic nerd but I've read a few people post disparaging comments about the 1968 European Championships over the last week: albeit in an attempt to minimise the achievement of Ramsey's side reaching the semi-final.
Before Euro 1980 sides had to navigate a full qualification group and a 2 legged quarter final before reaching the semi-finals.
They weren't reaching the 'finals stage' by finishing top of a 3 team group but by playing 6 qualifying matches and 2 quarter finals.
In '68 we played Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland home/away and a 2 legged Qtr final against Spain before playing Yugoslavia in the semi. It wasn't 'Easy' or, as I read recently, 'a four team tournament'! |  | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:40 - Jul 12 with 1821 views | danehoop |
I had low expectations of England before the championships started, I didn't really feel that connected with any of the players, but recognised they were a goodish squad.
They surprised me a lot a lot in how they progressed through each round and how much more savvy they were as a team. I like Southgate as an international manager (I think otherwise of him as a club manager where the pressures and structures are very different and he is lacking) and he he has surrounded himself with good staff to help him. I think he has also had a clear idea how he wants his squad to work and been able to ensure that each player knows what is expected of them.
For me England possibly slighted over exceeded in the competition (despite what the press may have hyped up). They have a solid young squad of players who have now started to get a feel for what is expected of them to be successful at the highest level. They were not far short this time around, they have progressed steadily and will continue to do so. It took the best team in the championships to play at their best to beat them. I'd take no shame from that. |  |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 13:15 - Jul 12 with 1695 views | QPR_Jim |
She should be careful, if we go down that route of logic people may start to think that if they were running the country properly Rashford wouldn't need to get involved in politics and could focus on playing football. |  | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 13:20 - Jul 12 with 1652 views | gazza1 |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:23 - Jul 12 by francisbowles |
What part of 'THE MANAGER DECIDES' do you not understand? |
I would suggest the penalty set-up would be discussed as a team....I don't know how England/Southgate done it. I also said that the penalty shoots-out that I have been involved with, and there have not been many, it was not pre-arranged and we decided as a team who would take pens and in what order primarily when players put their hands up to take one. I would expect England to be a bit more organised.
I believe, at the end of the day, it is the penalty taker who misses will take the blame albeit as an individual.
I hope that clarifies my stance on the penalty situation | | | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 13:49 - Jul 12 with 1596 views | slmrstid |
Stuff like this makes me feel sick.
Twitter just needs deleting from the face of this earth. |  | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 13:57 - Jul 12 with 1565 views | Ranger_Things |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 13:49 - Jul 12 by slmrstid |
Stuff like this makes me feel sick.
Twitter just needs deleting from the face of this earth. |
Not just Twitter, booing anthems, Rashford's mural defaced with racist graffiti, England fans attacking Italian families including kids, and it can't even be blamed on the loss because they did similar to Danish families after we won. |  | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 14:01 - Jul 12 with 1539 views | 80s_Boy |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 13:49 - Jul 12 by slmrstid |
Stuff like this makes me feel sick.
Twitter just needs deleting from the face of this earth. |
Idiots on both sides sadly....
I use Twitter to keep up-to-date with a few bands and theatres but beyond that just for niche interests like the history of the Cold War and non-league football.
I tried to 'get involved' during the early stages of the pandemic to have regular 'chats' with other people than the missus and, of course, gravitated to QPR twitter.... 3 weeks was enough for me. Sheer lunacy and full of narcissistic weirdos on both sides of some debates and opinions. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 14:26 - Jul 12 with 1452 views | willis1980 |
i recently rejoined twitter and am considering getting rid of it again, theres too much nonsense on there and appears to bring out the worst in people. this morning i saw several people uploading the video of the ticketless mob getting punched etc by people inside the ground, the video would be labelled as english fans attacking italians or english fans target asian man and children. you would see people explaining what happened and you soon realise that people merely believe what they want to or what they "feel" happened.
Loads of seeminly english wallys arguing that England deserved to lose because the fans booed anthems, the assumption is that only english fans boo anthems or act like herberts etc.... | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 14:28 - Jul 12 with 1443 views | traininvain |
That’s the problem with social media it allows people to spread lies, fear and hate. Maybe time for a major boycott until big tech companies get their house in order.
Just in case anyone’s wondering, Grealish has taken and scored one penalty for Aston Villa in his entire career. |  | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 14:49 - Jul 12 with 1365 views | daveB |
See they've jumped off the bandwagon as quickly as the dived onto it |  | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 14:57 - Jul 12 with 1321 views | Boston |
Still looking for US tv ratings for the game. Not published anywhere yet as far as I can see, but complete tournament did have increased numbers from previous years. | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:10 - Jul 12 with 1279 views | 80s_Boy |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 14:26 - Jul 12 by willis1980 |
i recently rejoined twitter and am considering getting rid of it again, theres too much nonsense on there and appears to bring out the worst in people. this morning i saw several people uploading the video of the ticketless mob getting punched etc by people inside the ground, the video would be labelled as english fans attacking italians or english fans target asian man and children. you would see people explaining what happened and you soon realise that people merely believe what they want to or what they "feel" happened.
Loads of seeminly english wallys arguing that England deserved to lose because the fans booed anthems, the assumption is that only english fans boo anthems or act like herberts etc.... |
"i recently rejoined twitter and am considering getting rid of it again, theres too much nonsense on there and appears to bring out the worst in people"
I keep my account on lock and don't engage with anyone.
Left/Right, Remain/Leave, Vaccine/Anti Vaccine, there's an incredible amount of idiots on both sides of all debates and people just form echo chambers and become entrenched meaning their opinion becomes an accepted gospel for all arguments and no room for compromise with heretics.
I dabbled with QPR Twitter for about 3 weeks last year and am still scarred. People forming multiple accounts to 'add weight' or the appearance of support to their point of view/arguments, people slagging off fans for preferring one player over another and, worse of all, people quick to label long standing QPR fans as racist for holding non-controversial views which didn't fit the narrative they want to set: in one case, someone who was by all accounts very quick to label QPR fans with any number of negative isms for holding opinions contrary to his was exposed as a Man Utd fan in his 40s who had only been going to Loftus Road for a few years.... It's honestly a platform for the most narcissistic members of society and one of the worst inventions ever. [Post edited 12 Jul 2021 15:13]
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:15 - Jul 12 with 1257 views | derbyhoop |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 13:15 - Jul 12 by QPR_Jim |
She should be careful, if we go down that route of logic people may start to think that if they were running the country properly Rashford wouldn't need to get involved in politics and could focus on playing football. |
She should be v careful who she criticises and who she supports.
Isn't her ex-husband and predecessor as MP for DOver in prison for sexual assaults? | |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:23 - Jul 12 with 1226 views | aston_hoop |
Spotting the fake accounts on QPR Twitter and also on here is usually quite straightforward after enough time on both - same style of posts, same views, same story, same targets. All gets a bit boring and all a bit tragic that people spend time creating them really. I just use it now to follow the content I am interested in, still plenty of good stuff |  |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:34 - Jul 12 with 1177 views | francisbowles |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 12:30 - Jul 12 by 80s_Boy |
Sorry to be a pedantic nerd but I've read a few people post disparaging comments about the 1968 European Championships over the last week: albeit in an attempt to minimise the achievement of Ramsey's side reaching the semi-final.
Before Euro 1980 sides had to navigate a full qualification group and a 2 legged quarter final before reaching the semi-finals.
They weren't reaching the 'finals stage' by finishing top of a 3 team group but by playing 6 qualifying matches and 2 quarter finals.
In '68 we played Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland home/away and a 2 legged Qtr final against Spain before playing Yugoslavia in the semi. It wasn't 'Easy' or, as I read recently, 'a four team tournament'! |
I wasn't disparaging England's achievement. In fact what was probably our best ever team were unlucky that weak refereeing allowed Yugoslavia to kick them out of the semi finals. However in qualifying, we had to rely on Scotland dropping points after beating and drawing with us. Scotland apart though, it was hardly a tough group as we beat Wales 5-1 and 3-0 and Northern Ireland 2-0 twice. As I'm sure you know we then beat Spain home and away to reach the tournament finals.
Italy had a pretty easy qualifying group, drawing in Switzerland but winning all the rest of the games against Rumania and Cyprus as well as at home to the Swiss. In the QF they lost again this time in 3-2 Bulgaria but won the return 2-0 to get to the last four. They then defeated the Soviet Union on the toss of a coin in the SF and needed a replay before winning the trophy. It was their first major trophy in over thirty years and came after the failure in the 66 World cup. | | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:41 - Jul 12 with 1146 views | wood_hoop |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:15 - Jul 12 by derbyhoop |
She should be v careful who she criticises and who she supports.
Isn't her ex-husband and predecessor as MP for DOver in prison for sexual assaults? |
Probably be in favour come the cabinet reshuffle........ |  | | |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:42 - Jul 12 with 1146 views | BAWHoops |
Not gonna lie.... on the fcking floor here lads.
Such a great, young, likeable side who stood up for the best of us. Heartbroken for them.
Of course our fans disgraced themselves as always before the game. The English Disease in full show.
Can look at penalty takers in whatever order all day and night, but when you are 1-0 up and on top you have to get that second goal. Been the English achilles heel forever and a day. We always lose control of a game as the whole weight of history starts to push down on us.
Sad to say I don't think they'll ever have a better chance of winning something. Draw opened up, at home, 1-0 up with 25 minutes to go.
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:52 - Jul 12 with 1098 views | SheffieldHoop |
At least the leftists can finally drop the false patriotism, which after a whole month I'm sure they were sick of, and go back to openly despising us
Budapest in September.  |  |
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| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:53 - Jul 12 with 1478 views | 80s_Boy |
| England ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ¥ó ®ó §ó ¿ v Italy 🇮🇹 Match Thread on 15:34 - Jul 12 by francisbowles |
I wasn't disparaging England's achievement. In fact what was probably our best ever team were unlucky that weak refereeing allowed Yugoslavia to kick them out of the semi finals. However in qualifying, we had to rely on Scotland dropping points after beating and drawing with us. Scotland apart though, it was hardly a tough group as we beat Wales 5-1 and 3-0 and Northern Ireland 2-0 twice. As I'm sure you know we then beat Spain home and away to reach the tournament finals.
Italy had a pretty easy qualifying group, drawing in Switzerland but winning all the rest of the games against Rumania and Cyprus as well as at home to the Swiss. In the QF they lost again this time in 3-2 Bulgaria but won the return 2-0 to get to the last four. They then defeated the Soviet Union on the toss of a coin in the SF and needed a replay before winning the trophy. It was their first major trophy in over thirty years and came after the failure in the 66 World cup. |
Sorry, it wasn't aimed directly at you, just got a bit fed up last week of people saying it was a micky mouse tournament!
It wasn't and we should be proud to have reached the semi that year!
Yours sincerely,
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