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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... 10:10 - Dec 10 with 10231 viewstheloneranger


Anything to try and deflect the spotlight away from Boris' disgusting attitude towards the picture of the little boy sleeping on the hospital floor.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-punch-matt-hancock-electio

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 12:54 - Dec 10 with 1379 viewsScotia

The undisputed fact that a child didn't even have a chair let alone a bed is bad enough. Irrespective of the fact that his parents may have taken a photo to prove some sort of political point.

Surely as bad as this though is that fact that our prime minister refused to even look at the photo and then pocketed the journalists phone to avoid seeing and acknowledging it?
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 12:58 - Dec 10 with 1371 viewsDarran

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 12:47 - Dec 10 by NeathJack

That statement literally says he was in the PED for 4 hours which is where the beds would have been and then when he was transferred to the other dept, that's when the issue of no beds occurred.


Whenever my daughter has been in A&E you stay in the bed there until a bed becomes available on a ward. Last year she spent 24 hours in a bed in A&E until one became available.
They don’t usually transfer you to another dept until a bed is available.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:03 - Dec 10 with 1354 viewsJackSomething

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 12:47 - Dec 10 by NeathJack

That statement literally says he was in the PED for 4 hours which is where the beds would have been and then when he was transferred to the other dept, that's when the issue of no beds occurred.


Think you're wasting your time sadly. There are none so blind as those who will not see and all that.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:09 - Dec 10 with 1344 viewsNeathJack

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 12:58 - Dec 10 by Darran

Whenever my daughter has been in A&E you stay in the bed there until a bed becomes available on a ward. Last year she spent 24 hours in a bed in A&E until one became available.
They don’t usually transfer you to another dept until a bed is available.


I don't doubt you but the hospital is saying he was transferred. I know from my own experience in hospitals over the last few years that they are often a shambles and communication is lacking.
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:12 - Dec 10 with 1339 viewsDarran

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:03 - Dec 10 by JackSomething

Think you're wasting your time sadly. There are none so blind as those who will not see and all that.


What’s blind about it? The NHS is in crisis and has been for years I’m saying they wouldn’t have kicked my child out of a bed or transferred them to another ward until a bed was available.
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:31 - Dec 10 with 1304 viewsBatterseajack

This thread is a great example why misinformation and plain lying pays off since Brexit. When the truth emerges, rather than accept they were lied to, people double down on it.
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:33 - Dec 10 with 1251 viewscostalotta

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:31 - Dec 10 by Batterseajack

This thread is a great example why misinformation and plain lying pays off since Brexit. When the truth emerges, rather than accept they were lied to, people double down on it.


Indeed, to the point where people welcome being lied to, which ultimately means they’re lying to themselves.
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:33 - Dec 10 with 1251 viewscontroversial_jack

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 10:13 - Dec 10 by AlfieMooresSon

Following the fake news of the little boy sleeping on the floor, if it was me and I was waiting for my boy to be seen at that age and size he would have been sleeping on my lap, not the floor?
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I can only assume that a 4 year old - they are big lumps these days, would not stay on the parents lap for long. They would either fall off or be so heavy that the parent couldn't keep the child in that position for very long
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:37 - Dec 10 with 1248 viewsLohengrin

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:12 - Dec 10 by Darran

What’s blind about it? The NHS is in crisis and has been for years I’m saying they wouldn’t have kicked my child out of a bed or transferred them to another ward until a bed was available.
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Somebody please correct me here if I’ve got this wrong but from what I understand the child had been discharged from the ward and was with his parents in the hospital’s treatment centre awaiting the distribution of prescription medication prior to going home.

The hospital administrators have apologised for a shortage of seats in the waiting area.

Is that the long and short of it?

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:42 - Dec 10 with 1238 viewsDarran

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:37 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Somebody please correct me here if I’ve got this wrong but from what I understand the child had been discharged from the ward and was with his parents in the hospital’s treatment centre awaiting the distribution of prescription medication prior to going home.

The hospital administrators have apologised for a shortage of seats in the waiting area.

Is that the long and short of it?


No idea on that sorry.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:46 - Dec 10 with 1228 viewsDrizzy

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:37 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Somebody please correct me here if I’ve got this wrong but from what I understand the child had been discharged from the ward and was with his parents in the hospital’s treatment centre awaiting the distribution of prescription medication prior to going home.

The hospital administrators have apologised for a shortage of seats in the waiting area.

Is that the long and short of it?


Totally wrong.

Here's the full statement from the Chief Medical Officer.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1204161266945810435.html

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:48 - Dec 10 with 1226 viewsLohengrin

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:42 - Dec 10 by Darran

No idea on that sorry.


Sounds about right though, what do you think? Concocting outrage from the everyday at election time.

The thing about the story that irritates me is what sort of a tw*t wouldn’t give up a seat for a poorly child?

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:54 - Dec 10 with 1214 viewsLohengrin

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:46 - Dec 10 by Drizzy

Totally wrong.

Here's the full statement from the Chief Medical Officer.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1204161266945810435.html


Ah! right. Fair enough, that’s the first time I’d read that.

What’s the solution?

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 15:39 - Dec 10 with 1171 viewsDarran

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:48 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Sounds about right though, what do you think? Concocting outrage from the everyday at election time.

The thing about the story that irritates me is what sort of a tw*t wouldn’t give up a seat for a poorly child?


I’m not sure what to think but I know for sure knowing my wife that it wouldn’t have happened to Amy.
People to need start wising up because it’s another massive problem in society and I’m 100% not saying there isn’t huge problems in the NHS.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 15:46 - Dec 10 with 1159 viewsFlashberryjack

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:54 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Ah! right. Fair enough, that’s the first time I’d read that.

What’s the solution?


Elect Mr Corbyn...pretty simple mun

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 15:55 - Dec 10 with 1145 viewswaynekerr55

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 15:46 - Dec 10 by Flashberryjack

Elect Mr Corbyn...pretty simple mun


Erm, no. Just stop those crazed tories from having a majority. Both the left and the right need to lay off the political ketamine and come back to the centre ground

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 16:08 - Dec 10 with 1128 viewsFireboy2

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 15:55 - Dec 10 by waynekerr55

Erm, no. Just stop those crazed tories from having a majority. Both the left and the right need to lay off the political ketamine and come back to the centre ground


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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 16:09 - Dec 10 with 1127 viewsCatullus

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 13:12 - Dec 10 by Darran

What’s blind about it? The NHS is in crisis and has been for years I’m saying they wouldn’t have kicked my child out of a bed or transferred them to another ward until a bed was available.
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I'm with you tht Darran, my son wouldn't have been moved either until a bed was ready or the police would definitely have been needed. But I also know that the situation is dire and people I know who work in Morriston and Singleton often tell me things I just can't repeat but are off the scale scary.

One example though, I've been told that in one dept there is an answerphone and messages are routinely deleted without being heard. If true that is shameful. It could be someone stirring it up but I've known them a long old time and trust them.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 16:29 - Dec 10 with 1112 viewsDarran

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 16:09 - Dec 10 by Catullus

I'm with you tht Darran, my son wouldn't have been moved either until a bed was ready or the police would definitely have been needed. But I also know that the situation is dire and people I know who work in Morriston and Singleton often tell me things I just can't repeat but are off the scale scary.

One example though, I've been told that in one dept there is an answerphone and messages are routinely deleted without being heard. If true that is shameful. It could be someone stirring it up but I've known them a long old time and trust them.


It’s an utter disgrace my friend. The biggest problem of all is that people seem to think that its going to get better anytime soon.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 16:44 - Dec 10 with 1094 viewsJackSomething

I don't know why pointing out this shameful situation, and the PM's pathetic response to it, automatically makes you a Corbyn supporter.

It would be more honest if the Johnson/Tory defenders said that yes it's horrible that this happened and the Tories have to do better if they win, but Corbyn isn't the answer. Instead, it's deflect, deflect, deflect (Not aimed at you Darran by the way).

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 16:52 - Dec 10 with 1088 viewsDrizzy

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:54 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Ah! right. Fair enough, that’s the first time I’d read that.

What’s the solution?


The complexity of the problem is beyond my understanding but I would suggest looking at the figures if you care about the issue.

Since 2010, the NHS budget has decreased as a % of GDP. It's the longest ever period of sustained budget cuts. If you consider the ever-increasing and ageing population, it's mental - possibly even criminal - that austerity measures have lasted this long.

The NHS budget was "protected" but the social care budget was slashed by 11% in this same time period. Now people who can't get adequate care end up in hospital emergency departments.

The debt burden is increasing to deal with the funding issue. More outsourcing, more PFI contracts and a larger long-term debt burden. Successive governments are guilty of using this in lieu of publically funded infrastructure. It's proven to be a disaster but it's incredibly costly for the NHS to buy itself out of these contracts.

The debt burden is rising, as are the costs of treating ageing and increasing population. Most common ailments are treated with prescription medication, the cost of this medicine is rising by 5x the amount of the budget to meet demand.

Now doesn't it seem absurd to even entertain the idea of buying medicine from a supplier that is committed to increasing the price of its medicine? A partner that charges its own population 2.5x as much for the same medicine?

This isn't absurd to some.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 17:07 - Dec 10 with 1068 viewssherpajacob

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 14:37 - Dec 10 by Lohengrin

Somebody please correct me here if I’ve got this wrong but from what I understand the child had been discharged from the ward and was with his parents in the hospital’s treatment centre awaiting the distribution of prescription medication prior to going home.

The hospital administrators have apologised for a shortage of seats in the waiting area.

Is that the long and short of it?


Perhaps you should reconsider the reliability and truthfulness of whatever your sources of information are.


Which of course is the whole point of the OP
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 17:56 - Dec 10 with 1024 viewsBillyChong

“Top” reporters/journos jumped on the “punch” story as soon as their “sources” reported it yesterday. Anything to take attention away from Johnson’s interview. They looked rather stupid when the footage of the “punch” was shared online.
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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 18:01 - Dec 10 with 1014 viewsFlashberryjack

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 15:55 - Dec 10 by waynekerr55

Erm, no. Just stop those crazed tories from having a majority. Both the left and the right need to lay off the political ketamine and come back to the centre ground


The last thing this country needs is another hung parliament IMO.

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False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 18:11 - Dec 10 with 1007 viewsCatullus

False news story claiming Labour activist punched Tory aide ... on 16:52 - Dec 10 by Drizzy

The complexity of the problem is beyond my understanding but I would suggest looking at the figures if you care about the issue.

Since 2010, the NHS budget has decreased as a % of GDP. It's the longest ever period of sustained budget cuts. If you consider the ever-increasing and ageing population, it's mental - possibly even criminal - that austerity measures have lasted this long.

The NHS budget was "protected" but the social care budget was slashed by 11% in this same time period. Now people who can't get adequate care end up in hospital emergency departments.

The debt burden is increasing to deal with the funding issue. More outsourcing, more PFI contracts and a larger long-term debt burden. Successive governments are guilty of using this in lieu of publically funded infrastructure. It's proven to be a disaster but it's incredibly costly for the NHS to buy itself out of these contracts.

The debt burden is rising, as are the costs of treating ageing and increasing population. Most common ailments are treated with prescription medication, the cost of this medicine is rising by 5x the amount of the budget to meet demand.

Now doesn't it seem absurd to even entertain the idea of buying medicine from a supplier that is committed to increasing the price of its medicine? A partner that charges its own population 2.5x as much for the same medicine?

This isn't absurd to some.

[Post edited 10 Dec 2019 18:44]


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