| Six Nations Thread 2019 09:19 - Jan 30 with 26934 views | robith |
It's that time of year again
IN BEFORE - posh people taking over pubs and not drinking. It's been done lads
Intriguing year this year pre World Cup. Some talk teams should blood players, but imo that should have been done already. This is about making sure your team is battle hardened and firing.
England have absolutely lost the plot imo. Trying to play mind games with the second most professional set of players in the world and posting videos of them trying to copy Ireland's tactics waving pool noodles at people. Gonna be quite embarrassing when Ireland grind them into dust.
Ireland - last year I felt like we should be winning by default with everyone else's injuries, but in that process they seemed to find the confidence to drive on to ever new heights. Leinster are dominating the European game. We'll have a target on us and we'll relish it - but this is a test of how good we actually are and how we've manged to negate our bottle job heritage.
Wales are the quiet ones to watch. They've steadily been racking up wins, look refreshed with some new personnel, and got that Australia win monkey off their backs. I'm going to Wales Ireland final game and I'm expecting it to be the decider.
Scotland - won't win but are bloody good fun to watch. France and Italy remain rubbish.
Some of you may remember that I tried to start a rugby podcast last year - and I've put a bit of effort in to get it off the ground again this year. If Clive's ok with self promotion, you can listen to it here, or search for Numbers! in the itunes store!
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 13:56 - Feb 4 with 3455 views | ElHoop |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 13:32 - Feb 4 by Toast_R |
So many big units in the French line up, physical game which of course peters out in the second half as they just get knackered. So evident on Friday.
As for Ireland, what were they doing?
I tell you what, the same thing over and over which was playing right into England's game plan. Going for the middle every time not once aiming for the flanks. It was brain dead rigid. The better team won. |
I'm not sure that the French got knackered or just lost direction completely. There didn't seem to be anyone in charge out there, pulling them back on course.
I watched their games against NZ in the summer and they played most of the 3rd test with 14 men and didn't look tired against a far better team than Wales. You and everyone else might be right and they're rubbish, unfit and they won't turn up on Sunday - but I'm not convinced. This will be tough enough I reckon.
https://rugby365.com/countries/france/live-now-new-zealand-v-france-2 |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 14:05 - Feb 4 with 3442 views | Phildo |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 13:32 - Feb 4 by Toast_R |
So many big units in the French line up, physical game which of course peters out in the second half as they just get knackered. So evident on Friday.
As for Ireland, what were they doing?
I tell you what, the same thing over and over which was playing right into England's game plan. Going for the middle every time not once aiming for the flanks. It was brain dead rigid. The better team won. |
They can be a bit narrow and were turned by the targeting of Earls who was seen as the weaker wing. They were slow to adapt and Murray had a stinker - Marmion was better against the all-blacks when he was basically mimicking Murray's style. That said they failed to go to any sort of plan b. England well deserved winners. Coaches earn their money in Rugby these days not by gobbing off in the media but in prepping very detailed game plans- which can leave players looking quite straight jacketed at times when those plans fail.
The French pack really look like they arrived from the pub 10 minutes before kick off. A mate texted me at H/T to say France have won and I replied saying - nah they will do something stupid in a minute.
Wales and Scotland both looked pretty awful to me but will probably improve I guess. |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 14:35 - Feb 4 with 3411 views | robith |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 13:32 - Feb 4 by Toast_R |
So many big units in the French line up, physical game which of course peters out in the second half as they just get knackered. So evident on Friday.
As for Ireland, what were they doing?
I tell you what, the same thing over and over which was playing right into England's game plan. Going for the middle every time not once aiming for the flanks. It was brain dead rigid. The better team won. |
This was what was so dispiriting was that England were always looking for the big hit, meaning they were actually missing quite a few tackles. But only Ringrose and Ryan looked to try and take a step to get an edge on.
TBH though going wide wasn't the answer - combination of England's line speed and Murray and Sexton looking like the NBA players in Space Jam when they have their abilities stolen. That might be the worst Murray has played in his career. The passing wasn't crisp enough meaning the second receiver had a white wall on them every single time. We really lacked composure. England completely out-Ireland-ed us!
We missed Henderson and Leavy much more than I thought we would.
Searching for a positive on what was a thoroughly miserable evening, thankfully this has happened now rather than in the World Cup - as with Argentina in 2015. We're likely to face South Africa in the Quarters - better for this to happened now and us think a solution that to get caught cold there. But still, absolutely gutted because it makes it pretty much impossible for us to win the title, before we even get to how much the manner of the defeat hurts.
Bugger. | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 14:52 - Feb 4 with 3390 views | Snipper |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 14:35 - Feb 4 by robith |
This was what was so dispiriting was that England were always looking for the big hit, meaning they were actually missing quite a few tackles. But only Ringrose and Ryan looked to try and take a step to get an edge on.
TBH though going wide wasn't the answer - combination of England's line speed and Murray and Sexton looking like the NBA players in Space Jam when they have their abilities stolen. That might be the worst Murray has played in his career. The passing wasn't crisp enough meaning the second receiver had a white wall on them every single time. We really lacked composure. England completely out-Ireland-ed us!
We missed Henderson and Leavy much more than I thought we would.
Searching for a positive on what was a thoroughly miserable evening, thankfully this has happened now rather than in the World Cup - as with Argentina in 2015. We're likely to face South Africa in the Quarters - better for this to happened now and us think a solution that to get caught cold there. But still, absolutely gutted because it makes it pretty much impossible for us to win the title, before we even get to how much the manner of the defeat hurts.
Bugger. |
robith, have you got the groups and the potential quarter final/semi final games by any chance?
Thanks in advance. |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 14:54 - Feb 4 with 3389 views | robith |
Also CJ Stander apparently played 62 minutes with a fractured eye socket and a broken cheekbone. I feel bad for criticising his carrying now | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 15:00 - Feb 4 with 3376 views | robith |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 14:52 - Feb 4 by Snipper |
robith, have you got the groups and the potential quarter final/semi final games by any chance?
Thanks in advance. |
Yep
So I'd have the quarters as
Sem final 1 side:
Eng vs Wales
NZ vs Scotland
Semi Final 2 side:
Australia vs France
Ireland vs South Africa | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 15:31 - Feb 4 with 3356 views | Snipper |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 15:00 - Feb 4 by robith |
Yep
So I'd have the quarters as
Sem final 1 side:
Eng vs Wales
NZ vs Scotland
Semi Final 2 side:
Australia vs France
Ireland vs South Africa |
Cheers fella. | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:01 - Feb 4 with 3309 views | SimonJames |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 15:00 - Feb 4 by robith |
Yep
So I'd have the quarters as
Sem final 1 side:
Eng vs Wales
NZ vs Scotland
Semi Final 2 side:
Australia vs France
Ireland vs South Africa |
I hope Georgia turn Wales over this time, like they would have done in 2017 if Wales hadn't claimed that Leon Brown wasn't fit to return to the scrum. |  |
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:24 - Feb 4 with 3303 views | ElHoop |
Unfortunately England don't win World Cups without Uruguay in their group. | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 18:10 - Feb 4 with 3258 views | dubaistu |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 14:35 - Feb 4 by robith |
This was what was so dispiriting was that England were always looking for the big hit, meaning they were actually missing quite a few tackles. But only Ringrose and Ryan looked to try and take a step to get an edge on.
TBH though going wide wasn't the answer - combination of England's line speed and Murray and Sexton looking like the NBA players in Space Jam when they have their abilities stolen. That might be the worst Murray has played in his career. The passing wasn't crisp enough meaning the second receiver had a white wall on them every single time. We really lacked composure. England completely out-Ireland-ed us!
We missed Henderson and Leavy much more than I thought we would.
Searching for a positive on what was a thoroughly miserable evening, thankfully this has happened now rather than in the World Cup - as with Argentina in 2015. We're likely to face South Africa in the Quarters - better for this to happened now and us think a solution that to get caught cold there. But still, absolutely gutted because it makes it pretty much impossible for us to win the title, before we even get to how much the manner of the defeat hurts.
Bugger. |
I'd happily place £100 here Ireland won't beat SA in the WC. If NZ don't win it then I can only see SA doing it. |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 20:33 - Feb 4 with 3166 views | Toast_R |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 18:10 - Feb 4 by dubaistu |
I'd happily place £100 here Ireland won't beat SA in the WC. If NZ don't win it then I can only see SA doing it. |
SA no chance. Too much political involvement in team selection. |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 23:59 - Feb 4 with 3086 views | bob566 |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 18:10 - Feb 4 by dubaistu |
I'd happily place £100 here Ireland won't beat SA in the WC. If NZ don't win it then I can only see SA doing it. |
Wouldnt write off ireland yet. They had injuries v england. Theyre better than SA. |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 00:08 - Feb 5 with 3084 views | johncharles |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 13:56 - Feb 4 by ElHoop |
I'm not sure that the French got knackered or just lost direction completely. There didn't seem to be anyone in charge out there, pulling them back on course.
I watched their games against NZ in the summer and they played most of the 3rd test with 14 men and didn't look tired against a far better team than Wales. You and everyone else might be right and they're rubbish, unfit and they won't turn up on Sunday - but I'm not convinced. This will be tough enough I reckon.
https://rugby365.com/countries/france/live-now-new-zealand-v-france-2 |
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 00:52 - Feb 5 with 3075 views | bob566 |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 00:08 - Feb 5 by johncharles |
It’s the way God planned it, it’s the way God meantit to be. |
I think rugby more than most sports is decided by injuries. England had a full squad bar lansbury. Ireland had a few players out. Its fine margins. Wales won but boy was it handed to them by french errors. Come world cup i expect ireland still to be strongest of the home nations with wales and england not far behind | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 02:43 - Feb 5 with 3056 views | derbyhoop |
How much were England improved by having the Vunipola brothers and Tuilaga playing?
Maka was MOM, but there were big hits all over the field and the line speed was frighteningly quick. |  |
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 07:37 - Feb 5 with 2996 views | Discodroids |
Not too sure about England having a full squad to choose from and missing only one player from the Team at Dubin
I'm no 5th dan shaolin monk high sensei of Rugby union , League being my sport, but some 5 players in Ben Teo, Sam Underhill, Dylan Hartley, Anthony Watson and Jonathon Joseph would, i'm sure, be considered by many England fans to be first team/Matchday squad players. They certainly would be in mine.
I think Launchbury was ok to play on saturday, just not selected and will probably come in for Itoje who looks like he's out for the remainder of the 6 nations. A huge loss.
in addition, i think another 4 players ; Brad Shields, Haskell, Robshaw and Cokanasiga are all injured and would be pushing for Matchday squad places also. imo. [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 7:51]
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 07:39 - Feb 5 with 2999 views | Dixie_CT |
England’s win was even better considering some of the refs decisions.
Slade/North & Huget/Stockdale some interesting similarities between the English and Welsh wins
A lot of rugby to be played between now and mid-March. Great start! |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 09:28 - Feb 5 with 2942 views | robith |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 07:37 - Feb 5 by Discodroids |
Not too sure about England having a full squad to choose from and missing only one player from the Team at Dubin
I'm no 5th dan shaolin monk high sensei of Rugby union , League being my sport, but some 5 players in Ben Teo, Sam Underhill, Dylan Hartley, Anthony Watson and Jonathon Joseph would, i'm sure, be considered by many England fans to be first team/Matchday squad players. They certainly would be in mine.
I think Launchbury was ok to play on saturday, just not selected and will probably come in for Itoje who looks like he's out for the remainder of the 6 nations. A huge loss.
in addition, i think another 4 players ; Brad Shields, Haskell, Robshaw and Cokanasiga are all injured and would be pushing for Matchday squad places also. imo. [Post edited 5 Feb 2019 7:51]
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Haskell is semi retired and Robshaw probably isn't at the standard of the players who've replaced him any more.
Of the original players listed I'd say only Underhill would have claims to be better than the team that started (and those who did - Wilson and Curry had big auld games). Hartley's been trading off reputation only for about 3 years now.
This was definitely the strongest team Jones has been able to call for a while. Billy V alone totally transform them as an attacking entity | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 18:15 - Feb 5 with 2848 views | dubaistu |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 00:52 - Feb 5 by bob566 |
I think rugby more than most sports is decided by injuries. England had a full squad bar lansbury. Ireland had a few players out. Its fine margins. Wales won but boy was it handed to them by french errors. Come world cup i expect ireland still to be strongest of the home nations with wales and england not far behind |
Antony Watson, Jonathan Joseph, Joe Launchbury, Dylan Hartley, Ben Teo.....???? | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:12 - Feb 8 with 2731 views | Discodroids |
Courtney Laws in for Mario Itoje and Chris Ashton in forJack Nowel, who is benched. Ellis Genge and Harry williams dropped out completely from the squad. Launchbury on the bench.. Big Fan Of Laws but Itoje is Especial. Bastareaud back for the french. Can see this going very very close, Razor thin.
Like the old fuker i am i've got the Adnams southwold dry hopped lager in for sunday. Haven't a clue what 'm watching half the time but it's ambrosial to watch.
The Australian NRL In a month as well, It's all too much excitement Man. [Post edited 8 Feb 2019 16:15]
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 15:50 - Feb 10 with 2621 views | Discodroids |
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 15:59 - Feb 10 with 2608 views | Lblock |
A game I detested for years
As the misguidance of yoof slips away the enjoyment of wugger increases
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| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:29 - Feb 10 with 2592 views | Toast_R |
France have been plop. England - sensational. | | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:48 - Feb 10 with 2581 views | stowmarketrange |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:29 - Feb 10 by Toast_R |
France have been plop. England - sensational. |
What a day.Stuffing the French and the scum getting tonked.There is a god after all. |  | | |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:57 - Feb 10 with 2568 views | flynnbo |
| Six Nations Thread 2019 on 16:48 - Feb 10 by stowmarketrange |
What a day.Stuffing the French and the scum getting tonked.There is a god after all. |
Some early wickets in the cricket would round off a fine day! |  | | |
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