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a very sensitive subject, not something to be laughed at, but definitely something to be addressed on a national scale. and as someone who was probably obese and has worked very hard to reduce the medical effects of obesity, i can understand the worldly temptations and peer pressure that is out there.
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i have an issue with dame sally davies, england's chief medical officer. in her opinion, obesity is as big a threat as terrorism. really? wtf is this woman smoking, and does she get it on nhs prescription?
i am really struggling to envision a situation where an overweight female gets onto a crowded train and explodes killing tens of innocent passengers a la mr creosote. or walks down the road so recklessly that she manages to run over and kill several pedestrians.
i do understand that obesity is very real and can really affect a person and their family, but comparing it to a terrorist attack on the streets of london is just a joke. p45 time, me thinks.
It's not what you've got; it's where you stick it.
Obesity will kill more people and cost more money than terrorism. Probably what she means.
Gotta say I think people need to stop burying their head in the sand, tax crappy food to the sky and tell people who are fat that they are and it isn't fcuking glandular. NHS is on it's arse cos of fat people.
Maybe she could have framed it a bit better, but obesity will waste much more of my taxes and kill far more people than a handful of Islamist lunatics in the UK.
The NHS was set up when wartime rationing was still in place. Among all the other expensive medical advancements it has had to deal with since then, structurally It's not best placed to deal with a porky one who can't lay off the jelly tots.
IMO there should be a health insurance element to cover certain conditions such as obesity . Then premiums would be set taking account of lifestyle and risk . I personally would also charge for a GP appointment payable via NI contributions so exempting the disabled the old and the young .
I think its a lack of education. When I speak to people about weight loss and I ask them to tell me what they've been eating I'm amazed at things they think are healthy. A mate is on 2 x bottles of coke a day. His breakfast is 2 x croissants. He was shocked when I told him to change it. Supermarkets in oz are terrible. Every week crisps,chocolate and sugary drinks are on special while blueberries are $6 a punnet.
The terrorist threat is growing and so are their capabilities. I believe that in our lifetime we will see an attack on the western world by a few that will kill thousands if not tens of thousands and have a devastating impact on the world economy. To speak of about obesity in the same context is a p*ss take.
i seem to remmedber a telly programme where jamie oliver went around schools trying to introduce more nutritional and less fatty and salty foods. teachers were complaining that they could tell exactly what their students had ingested for breakfast or lunch as a direct relationship to their behaviour in class. when the children went home and told their parents and families, there was outrage and protests at the changes. there was even that famous scene where parents went to local chip shop and newsagents and fed their children at lunch hour through the school fence. this fat mother wearing a pink tracksuit with 'babe' on her arse said her poor 15 stone teenager would come home starving. she even referred to the new conditions as a concentration camp.
if you are going to tackle obesity, then you have to start in the home and educate parents. but, as mentioned, its the supermarkets that are the biggest problems. cheap sugary fatty foods will always be cheaper that good for you fruit and vegetables, but i don't understand why the supermarkets take this course. sugary fizzy pop drinks are the worst. i cannot stop kids coming in my newsagents, buying 1.5 litre bottles of coke or fanta, then consuming the whole contacts with a mars bar and family packet of crisps as a breakfast, then go to school. i shudder to think how they will behave in class having consumed that first thing in the morning.
it's about education.
It's not what you've got; it's where you stick it.
Eating the wrong foods is another addiction. People love eating chocolate, cakes (except Bakewell Tarts), crisps, burgers, sweets and fizzy drinks because they are designed to taste good to the masses. They make people feel better, like cigarettes, alcohol and yet many people still smoke despite the well published dangers with smoking, many drink to excess and know they are killing themselves. Fact is that many humans cannot control their addictions and whatever the cost, whatever the taxes they will continue to eat the wrong things in excess and will never lose weight.
I was kidding Clive. I'm with you all the way. It's not just the intake of food thats f'cking up our kids ,its the sedentary lifestyle they lead. Smart phones instead of the red public phone at the end of the estate that hardly ever worked. Back when we were kids everyone knew that the fat kids were either very greedy or very lazy or both. There were no bullshite excuses about big bones or dodgy glands. Sure .there were some unfortunates who had genuine problems but nothing like now. I remember once we were hanging about round the shops and a fat kid we knew bought a couple pounds of plums ( yeah I know that's pretty healthy but hold on) . we were like ''Gissa plumb Steve ,go on''.He was ''Nah, leave it out this is my dinner ,my Mum and Dad are out.'' A couple of seconds later a maternal voice drifted down from the middle flats of the tower block . Steven , Steven , come up now Luv your teas ready. Perfect timing. He waddled off . But like I say , he was in a minority .
IMO there should be a health insurance element to cover certain conditions such as obesity . Then premiums would be set taking account of lifestyle and risk . I personally would also charge for a GP appointment payable via NI contributions so exempting the disabled the old and the young .
Not really work the risk for insurance companies. I work for a major PMI provider and we’ve considered such “bolt-ons” however, obesity would never be one. The only people who would take out an obesity module would be those on their way to obesity anyway and would therefore be very unlikely to be accepted.
Can’t really see most people who are healthy or a little overweight taking out insurance against becoming obese.
As others have said it’s baffling how people get the size they do. I’ve gotten up to just over 15 stone a couple of times before (I’m 6’) looked at myself and thought “you fat fcuker” then done something about it, How people can’t do something positive when the get to 20, 25, 30 stone in beyond me.
The supermarkets do have a lot to answer for. A couple of weeks ago whilst doing the weekly shop noticed a "meal deal" offer. The deal was a frozen pizza, a bag of frozen chips and a small tub of Ben & Jerry's ice cream for 3 quid. Unbelievable.
Always the same, always see the fizzy drinks, chocolate bars and other unhealthy shit on offer.
From the Independent reporting a study by the National Centre for Health Statistics at the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention in Maryland, US:-
Mild obesity (those with a BMI between 30 and 34.9) brings a 5 per cent lower premature death rate, according to the study. Although this was not statistically significant, it suggests there is no increased risk of premature death attached to that weight range.
So enjoy your short lives you skinny, patronising, soon to die b@stards
The supermarkets do have a lot to answer for. A couple of weeks ago whilst doing the weekly shop noticed a "meal deal" offer. The deal was a frozen pizza, a bag of frozen chips and a small tub of Ben & Jerry's ice cream for 3 quid. Unbelievable.
Always the same, always see the fizzy drinks, chocolate bars and other unhealthy shit on offer.
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That word Chav again. I hate it. As bad as N igger or P aki in my opinion.
If I see some grubby as f**k fat mess walking out of Greggs with a sausage roll shoved in her fat toddler's face who she's screaming at and a boyfriend in a shitty Liverpool FC football top and shitty grey trackie bottoms and they weigh a combined 50 stone and are covered in more shitty ink than they've ever actually read in a book then I'm thinking she's a f**king chav piece of sh*t.
It doesn't have the same resonance as 'n1gger' or 'p@ki' at all which is why it isn't swear-filtered.
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
When I first came over here fancy dress parties were the rage. Expats going mental , bonding and the wives trying to out do each other. I went to one of my mates son's 21st party which was mid jan. The expats on here will know how hot it is over here in January. I smashed it Burberry swimming shorts.fake ..mine allready Burberry tee well loud .full tarten.. Mrs got it from charity shop.. Burberry cap Genuine .My eldest daughters Burberry shades .( frames) fake My eldest daughters. My havaiana flip flops .Genuine Spliff behind my ear ..Fake
Everyone knew I had come as a Chav . I corrected them .I was a Chav on holiday..
@BazzaInTheLoft 'That word chav again. I hate it.'
You will love Owen Jones' Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class.
I don’t like “chav” because it seems to mostly be used to sneer at working class people who dress a certain way, shop at Greggs/Iceland and live on estates, regardless of whether they’re good, decent people or “scum”. It presumably makes people feel superior when they can point at someone kitted out at Sports Direct on a low income/benefits, and dismiss them as a “chav” without knowing a thing about them. Each to their own, but I think it's a horrible word.
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