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The Official QPR Vs Swansea City Match Thread
at 21:40 21 Aug 2019

...have to say, and it's only August, Championship football is much more fun than propping up the Prem. 1st or 6th, who cares? In the bloody mix, and all the time ...entertaining. Roll it on.
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Appearances ... Angel
at 21:12 29 Sep 2018

Oh for God's sake. There is more than one meaning for score. yes you can hoof a ball into a net (or not in the case of Gylfi's first attempt today) and SCORE but scoring is also counting. Hence Angel's Swansea appearances outscore the entire starting Swansea lineup today.

Never mind. I just thought it was lightly interesting and unusual. In humour.
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Appearances ... Angel
at 17:53 29 Sep 2018

Someone has probably posted this in a thread already but I was interested in how the maths worked out.

Angel Rangel made 374 senior appearance for us in his career. Todays Swansea starting lineup between them have made approximately 290, or 180 if you discount Naughton. I wonder how often this odd stat has occurred where a former player outscores the entire team he used to play for?

Good result today, I'm enjoying this season!
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Swans battering at Huddersfield
at 09:38 16 Mar 2018

I don't think anyone has mentioned this above. On paper the 'stats' look awful. In reality the team were heroic in battling every moment, every tackle. If we stay up on GD it is results like this that are crucial. I still think it might go down to GD even if we aren't involved.

The bottom line is that Carlos said a month ago he didn't have much regard for stats. I know that after the game I was hungry, but felt that I had eaten half a chicken
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Fit and Proper Owners and Directors
at 09:19 16 Mar 2018

I am posting this link because it is well written and summarises just one aspect of the long running saga at Blackpool. Anyone with about 10 minutes spare time to read the article should do so if they have an interest in the management and administration of professional football. I just thought I'd throw it out there...

http://www.backhenrystreet.co.uk/thread-33957.html
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Swans consider J.Ayew appeal
at 11:03 11 Mar 2018

Pointless appealling that red is my opinion. Move on.

For me it is a double offence, two yellows or more likely two reds. I think Hogg got away with it because he made a sort of 'save myself dive' after the impact and his rolling around was more dramatic than Ayew's. For such an important match and so early in the game, a serious telling off for the pair of them, two yellows and a drop-ball restart would be the common sense option, but that's easy to say in hindsight.

As an aside Fabianski made a wonderful save to keep us in the game tipping that ball. He was well positioned to shepherd a lot of close calls too. Leading candidate for player of the season for me.
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Carlos Contract
at 22:27 5 Mar 2018

Carlos' record as a manager mirrors his playing career. I think from memory he started managing about 16 years ago and with a 3 year sabbatical has still managed 15+ clubs. He is apparently a wandering star. I would be courting him big time for another 1 year contract, no strings attached, we love you Carlos etc etc.

He reminds me quite a bit of Ian Holloway. Knows his game, knows his squad, manages very very left field. Holloway has had personal family issues that have affected his football career and but for that I could have seen him in the European mix. As Holloway took his players at Blackpool on the big dipper and to play bingo, I could see Carlos taking the squad to the coast for a run up and down the steps at Mwnt, a sea canoeing trip and a dolphin watch. He realises the goldfish bowl a squad lives in and attempts to extract them from that to avoid a jaded relationship between trainers and players. Anything to retain a bond.

Anyway, by hook or by crook Man U contrived to win. I feel sorry for Palace, but honestly, not that sorry....
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The Run-In
at 15:30 5 Mar 2018

...steady boy, you're creating a fixtures backlog what with Southampton too....
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The Run-In
at 12:54 5 Mar 2018

...another factor is goal difference. If we do lose games, it is vital we don't cave in and lose by a hatful. GD played a part in overtaking West Ham on Saturday. Stoke and Huddersfield are badly placed here at the moment.

Fabianski's performance this season has been crucial and his defence has to play its part, heads held up, even if we are losing a game by a single goal.
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Who is the most famous person you have met?
at 09:49 5 Mar 2018

Driving a heavily loaded van to exhibit at Holker Hall in the late 1980s, I had to make a sudden swerve and stop as a speeding coach and four galloped past. The Duke of Edinburgh, reins in one hand, shouted "Thank You!" and doffed his top hat to us. Made my day.
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The Run-In
at 09:44 5 Mar 2018

I'm not normally one to do this sort of thing, but the fixture list and the table as it stands have thrown out some interesting permutations when I looked last night.

Although nothing is a given obviously, I reckon West Brom have had it, they are too far adrift unless a miracle happens. Stoke have a really tricky run in with Man City, Everton, Arsenal and Spurs their next games. If those results go to form (Arsenal ??? :-) ) then they too will be losing touch with the pack. That leaves one space to fill in the drop zone. We are not safe by any means and have some tough fixtures ourselves.

The upcoming Huddersfield and West Brom journeys are critical and we need to find some away form from somewhere. Our next home game may not be until mid April unless the Southampton game is slotted in somewhere beforehand.

On the bright side Man City could have wrapped up the title as early as 7th April, the same time we travel to West Brom. When we travel to Manchester on Sunday 22nd it will be two days before the first leg of the Champions League Semis and one would give City an excellent chance of being there.

Far too many Ifs and Buts really, but is is proving to be a fascinating season.
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I know we have long gotten over Bradley, but Bitter Bobby hasn't gotten over us
at 13:07 4 Mar 2018

....absolutely , and possibly only just enough in January, fully agree...
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I know we have long gotten over Bradley, but Bitter Bobby hasn't gotten over us
at 11:32 4 Mar 2018

Tummer talks a lot of sense, he's well worth reading.

It's interesting to hear that Bob reckons that the Chairman & the Supporters Trust never backed him. That puts the lie to blaming Huw for his appointment, and is indicative of the input the new owners had in his appointment.

It's also interesting to mull over recent history. There is a pattern to a lot of the last few seasons and the Club's habit of eating managers.

Monk revives results, keeps us up, poor start next season, sacked
Guidolin revives results, keeps us up, poor start next season, sacked
(Bradley episode...several weeks of nightmare)
Clement revives results, keeps us up, poor start next season, sacked
Carvalhal revives results, ....watch this space, I hope it's different

I like Carlos .... alongside all the comedic quotes lies a very clever manager of men I suspect. He has all the qualities of extracting the best out of a lot of different players and keeping them happy. He also blames himself when things go wrong. He might not be the finished article as a tactician but he seems to have very quickly moulded a squad that want to play for him. I didn't see any of these attributes in Bradley.
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Inflatables
at 20:09 3 Mar 2018

I'm a bit off the wall tonight after that. Fantastic. A quick internet search shows that inflatable lobsters are available but I can't find sardines yet. Some crowd tribute to Carlos if we waved them at him by the hundred... just a thought....
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Welcome home Wilfred
at 01:16 29 Aug 2017

That's what I was afraid of. An upcoming asset or fit in replacement home grown for Chelsea.... BUT, BUT, if they want, really want, Llorente, would you negotiate an exchange? Chelsea can afford the services of an over 30 on a short shelf life but we can speculate on a twenty year old. As an obvious 'selling club' it might be exceptional business in 12 months time to secure Abraham full time....
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Welcome home Wilfred
at 00:35 29 Aug 2017

Here's a left field thought. Ignore Wilf. What would you ask Chelsea for Llorente if we took on Abraham full time?
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Gylfi
at 00:59 9 Aug 2017

Excellent summary....completely agree...

QUOTE

I said we would get £50m eventually and it would seem that way too me right now...there is a lot of old bollocks written on here about the business and the money.
In business, when it comes to doing a deal, you need a pair of bollocks and a cool head.

- Many have tried to make out that Everton are in the driving seat, that it is they who will set the price and the date of this transfer...last day of the window etc.
I don't think so. I believe the Americans will not budge on the price and I believe that if Everton don't come up with the money this week Siggy won't be leaving at all.
I'm fine with that. It will have been made clear to other clubs, Siggy and the rest of our players that we are not to be f*cked with.

UNQUOTE
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Gylfi
at 00:18 9 Aug 2017

The longer this goes on, the less it looks good for Everton to me. There is something in the deal that is obviously sticking in their craw. It makes the Swansea board look less and less of a roll over-and-give-up 'selling club' in the lower reaches of European/Prem/Championship football.

Although Siggy has said nothing since the end of season bash, lots of media outlets have put words in his mouth. He has trained with whoever, is up to speed and is probably one of the brighter and more media savvy players in the top flight. This Everton deal looked a shoo-in 72 hours ago. I'm not so certain now and will personally be pleased if it goes end up.

Lisa...QUOTE

But the minute we receive an actual offer, by not accepting that offer, we are effectively investing that amount in the player in question. It's an opportunity cost. We give up the opportunity to spend that £40m or whatever on other players.

If we can spend that amount on other players anyway, so be it. But we can't. So we have a choice. Spend it on say three players that would improve the squad, or keep Siggy.

However good a player he is, he is not good enough that it is worth giving up the opportunity to improve the squad in the position we currently find ourselves in.

So it's not win win. UNQUOTE

This is 2008 Lehman Bros economics Lisa. There is cash to buy anyway at the moment. Perhaps 20-30 million from the TV deal, without 'borrowing.' Your first paragraph implies we have nothing invested in the first place in Gylfi as an asset and have to take it on the chin if 50 million doesn't come our way then mourn the loss of three players we could buy (Baston, Tabanou, Frankenstein???) . This is the economics of people who borrow, or 'deploy leverage' in that shitti e st of US phrases. If nothing else, the directors who took us out of the Petty era put their money where their mouth was and didn't borrow. With Gylfi we have a tangible asset. Your 45 or 50 million is intangible, even more so if it is to be spent on 3 players of unknown worth when all Europe and Africa know we have just charged top dollar and are cash rich.

Sigurddsson is an asset on the books, a big asset. By not selling him and without any debt on his presence on the books, we are investing nothing in him now, we have already in the Spurs deal. We are, like the rest of the squad, paying his maintenence costs (wages) as he depreciates over the next few years as an asset. At that point we either realise his value in the market or write him off on the books ... the choice is a moot point in performance against value for any player. Leon and Angel are effectively written off as assets already, (who would buy them??) but their value to the squad in training is priceless, as is their worth in a starting or bench line up. They may be financially written off long ago but they have enormous value to the Club.

Just my take on it....
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Vince Cable nails it.
at 09:47 7 Aug 2017

Correct...
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What's your favourite footballing quote ? My friends
at 02:17 7 Aug 2017

ITV Forum on football hooliganism from the late seventies/early eighties when the problem was rife. Panel including Brian Moore, Jackie Charlton, Jimmy Hill and others.

from memory...

Moore: What could stop all this fighting on the terraces?

Charlton: Ooovercoots !

Moore: Sorry Jackie?

Charlton: Ooovercoots. Has thar eever tried fighting in a big wet woollen oovercoot? It's nar possible. It's these namby-pamby covered terraces and anoraks that have spoiled it. Yes, we all wanted a fight back when, but you can't in a wet oovercoot. It weighs about a hundredweight.

...Best ever for me.
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