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Just been reading that if we win today we pocket £45000......enough to keep the lights on a bit longer. Plus we are then guaranteed a further taste in the next round win or loose. Looser today gets £15000. These are useful figures to a Club like ours. Let's give it a really good go! |  | | |  |
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Often it's not the tactics in of themselves that are the problem but the execution of the tactics. |
Do not try to play football in your own penalty area.
Then no chance of tippy tappy cockups.
Simple game. |  | | |
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| Dale v Bromley (FA Cup 1st Round) Match thread: on 12:42 - Nov 3 by James1980 |
Often it's not the tactics in of themselves that are the problem but the execution of the tactics. |
No James... it's asking players whose levels of ability aren't quite up to playing those tactics to execute them consistently
Whilst similar mistakes in ball control / weight of pass are made even at the highest levels, the further from the highest levels you drop, the more those errors will happen
There's nothing difficult to understand here, except that the person responsible for organising the team is unable to face that reality
We see the same words repeated in posts (post mortems) week in week out: "hope", "learn", "basics"
None of them will change under McNulty. Will he succeed despite these obvious drawbacks? It's possible, but making it more difficult for not just the players but the fans to watch has drained any enthusiasm out of the game |  |
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No James... it's asking players whose levels of ability aren't quite up to playing those tactics to execute them consistently
Whilst similar mistakes in ball control / weight of pass are made even at the highest levels, the further from the highest levels you drop, the more those errors will happen
There's nothing difficult to understand here, except that the person responsible for organising the team is unable to face that reality
We see the same words repeated in posts (post mortems) week in week out: "hope", "learn", "basics"
None of them will change under McNulty. Will he succeed despite these obvious drawbacks? It's possible, but making it more difficult for not just the players but the fans to watch has drained any enthusiasm out of the game |
But yesterday was good for fans to watch! The stupidity of the second goal is something we all want eradicating but all the other goals were down to defensive deficiencies and a poor substitution. That’s what seemed to affect the mood, certainly not our overall display.
In between their goals we played attacking football, adapted the formation (something McNulty hadn’t done enough before, so evidence of learning and change) and created loads of chances.
You won’t hear any disagreements from me and most around the style of play that has engulfed the game, but as a Dale fan we witnessed a hardworking, skilful and entertaining team yesterday. [Post edited 3 Nov 13:31]
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But yesterday was good for fans to watch! The stupidity of the second goal is something we all want eradicating but all the other goals were down to defensive deficiencies and a poor substitution. That’s what seemed to affect the mood, certainly not our overall display.
In between their goals we played attacking football, adapted the formation (something McNulty hadn’t done enough before, so evidence of learning and change) and created loads of chances.
You won’t hear any disagreements from me and most around the style of play that has engulfed the game, but as a Dale fan we witnessed a hardworking, skilful and entertaining team yesterday. [Post edited 3 Nov 13:31]
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We also witnessed us handing another gift wrapped goal to our opponents another loss and that's now becoming a major frustration and is costing us vital points and in yesterday's case potentially a awful lot of revenue. We are now fairly regularly having to score at least two goals to win a game because we are gifting goals as a result of trying to play the ball out of our defence and embarrassing ourselves. Conceding goals through poor defending happens and we can live with that but what we are witnessing defensively under McNultys management ( the buck does stop with him) is now becoming a running sore and it's hurting not only the fans but also the club. All the stupid goals we are handing to our opponents are all as a result of asking defenders and goalkeepers to do things that they can't do consistently. The fans know it and our opponents now know it, apply a bit of pressure around our penalty area and there's a great chance of us throwing one into our net..Solihull, Barnet, Bromley are just three recent ones off the top of my head. Fans are right to point the finger at the manager. We've got a big game coming up soon against Oldham and they will treat the game like a local derby ( Jim will take the emotion out like we saw in the debacle at Boundary Park last season), they'll be all over us like a rash and you can bet they will be waiting to pounce on the inevitable cock up at the back. That sounds defeatist but if you were a betting man you wouldn't bet against it happening. It's down to the manager now to tweak how we progress the ball out of defence because if he doesn't the mistakes will continue to happen. [Post edited 3 Nov 13:58]
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We also witnessed us handing another gift wrapped goal to our opponents another loss and that's now becoming a major frustration and is costing us vital points and in yesterday's case potentially a awful lot of revenue. We are now fairly regularly having to score at least two goals to win a game because we are gifting goals as a result of trying to play the ball out of our defence and embarrassing ourselves. Conceding goals through poor defending happens and we can live with that but what we are witnessing defensively under McNultys management ( the buck does stop with him) is now becoming a running sore and it's hurting not only the fans but also the club. All the stupid goals we are handing to our opponents are all as a result of asking defenders and goalkeepers to do things that they can't do consistently. The fans know it and our opponents now know it, apply a bit of pressure around our penalty area and there's a great chance of us throwing one into our net..Solihull, Barnet, Bromley are just three recent ones off the top of my head. Fans are right to point the finger at the manager. We've got a big game coming up soon against Oldham and they will treat the game like a local derby ( Jim will take the emotion out like we saw in the debacle at Boundary Park last season), they'll be all over us like a rash and you can bet they will be waiting to pounce on the inevitable cock up at the back. That sounds defeatist but if you were a betting man you wouldn't bet against it happening. It's down to the manager now to tweak how we progress the ball out of defence because if he doesn't the mistakes will continue to happen. [Post edited 3 Nov 13:58]
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Fans are totally right to point it out. And I have.
They are also right to point out when he and his players do well. My last post was about how entertaining the game was and how the way we played between their goals was inventive tactically and with a real focus on going forward at pace. Something that has rightly been pointed out as missing during some home performances. [Post edited 3 Nov 14:00]
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Fans are totally right to point it out. And I have.
They are also right to point out when he and his players do well. My last post was about how entertaining the game was and how the way we played between their goals was inventive tactically and with a real focus on going forward at pace. Something that has rightly been pointed out as missing during some home performances. [Post edited 3 Nov 14:00]
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But i would counter that by suggesting at 0-2 down after three minutes the manager had no other option to set us up to attack and play with such fluidity. Our home performances this season suggest we probably wouldn't have seen that otherwise. His hand was forced in some respects. I agree we did play very well for 80 minutes of the game though. | | | |
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But i would counter that by suggesting at 0-2 down after three minutes the manager had no other option to set us up to attack and play with such fluidity. Our home performances this season suggest we probably wouldn't have seen that otherwise. His hand was forced in some respects. I agree we did play very well for 80 minutes of the game though. |
Even if that was the case, he should receive credit for it and his players too for how well they carried it out.
Whatever the reason, we played very well as you say and but for the capitulation, partly down to the manager for the sub, we would be talking about a famous victory. It reminded me of another 3-4 cup classic v Huddersfield in ‘88 when a great Dale display wasn’t good enough due to defensive calamities and the electric Junior Bent. | |
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Do not try to play football in your own penalty area.
Then no chance of tippy tappy cockups.
Simple game. |
Why do so many teams employ that tactic? | |
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Why do so many teams employ that tactic? |
That’s the million dollar question. A day will come when they won’t though, and it’ll be most welcome. | |
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| Dale v Bromley (FA Cup 1st Round) Match thread: on 14:53 - Nov 3 with 1904 views | D_Alien |
| Dale v Bromley (FA Cup 1st Round) Match thread: on 14:21 - Nov 3 by James1980 |
Why do so many teams employ that tactic? |
It started at the top of the football pyramid, with teams like Spain in the 00s and at club level, Barcelona and carried on through via the Spanish influence to Pep's teams
That then becomes "the standard" to aspire to, and baked into coaching manuals. JM's swallowed it, and gone back for seconds
As 442 suggests, the day we stop burdening teams at lower levels of the pyramid with the "rich man's game" can't come soon enough
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| Dale v Bromley (FA Cup 1st Round) Match thread: on 15:20 - Nov 3 with 1814 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Dale v Bromley (FA Cup 1st Round) Match thread: on 11:19 - Nov 3 by Mass_Debater |
You'll have to explain how the damage is already done when we're winning going into injury time. |
Well I am happy to offer my take on this.
We (Dale) are 0-2 down inside 3 minutes.... Both goals really poor to concede especially the 2nd that was like park football defending.
Dale then play well and get into the ascendency eventually scoring the 3rd to take the lead.
Bromley have 87 minutes to play a side that has scored 3 goals and they only need one goal to get something from the game. As it happened they scored twice.
Without that lunacy of the opening 3 minutes on the balance of play Dale have a better chance of progression in the FA Cup but you cant just forget about the first 180 seconds the damage was already done.
This side have a real chance to make the play offs this season but if we continue to gift such soft goals in the majority of games then mid table obscurity is calling. | | | |
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Well I am happy to offer my take on this.
We (Dale) are 0-2 down inside 3 minutes.... Both goals really poor to concede especially the 2nd that was like park football defending.
Dale then play well and get into the ascendency eventually scoring the 3rd to take the lead.
Bromley have 87 minutes to play a side that has scored 3 goals and they only need one goal to get something from the game. As it happened they scored twice.
Without that lunacy of the opening 3 minutes on the balance of play Dale have a better chance of progression in the FA Cup but you cant just forget about the first 180 seconds the damage was already done.
This side have a real chance to make the play offs this season but if we continue to gift such soft goals in the majority of games then mid table obscurity is calling. |
The damage was repaired and then done again.
As TS said, the game may have played out differently if they hadn’t scored two early on and we might have lost a dour game 1-0.
It was a bad start that we recovered from and then we shot ourselves in the foot. Or both as Graham Barrow once said. | |
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Bromley have been drawn away at Solihull Moors in the next round. | | | |
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Well I am happy to offer my take on this.
We (Dale) are 0-2 down inside 3 minutes.... Both goals really poor to concede especially the 2nd that was like park football defending.
Dale then play well and get into the ascendency eventually scoring the 3rd to take the lead.
Bromley have 87 minutes to play a side that has scored 3 goals and they only need one goal to get something from the game. As it happened they scored twice.
Without that lunacy of the opening 3 minutes on the balance of play Dale have a better chance of progression in the FA Cup but you cant just forget about the first 180 seconds the damage was already done.
This side have a real chance to make the play offs this season but if we continue to gift such soft goals in the majority of games then mid table obscurity is calling. |
We were winning at the end of 90 minutes. We had overcome the start. We lost because of the remaining 5 minutes. [Post edited 3 Nov 20:13]
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We were winning at the end of 90 minutes. We had overcome the start. We lost because of the remaining 5 minutes. [Post edited 3 Nov 20:13]
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If it hadn't have been for the first three minutes of the game we would have been 3-0 up going into the 90th minute and won the game. We lost because of the first three minutes also, you can't ignore it. | | | |
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If it hadn't have been for the first three minutes of the game we would have been 3-0 up going into the 90th minute and won the game. We lost because of the first three minutes also, you can't ignore it. |
No we wouldn’t! As you noted, the manager may have changed the tactics based on going two down early, it’s the basic rules of chaos theory - one action doesn’t mean another will definitely happen. Would we have been pushing for a third if it had been 2-0? Would Henderson have played the role he was at that stage?
It’s safe to say we wouldn’t have played with six players in forward positions after 20 minutes if the score was 0-0.
The only certainty was we lost a 3-2 lead because of the last five minutes. | |
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No we wouldn’t! As you noted, the manager may have changed the tactics based on going two down early, it’s the basic rules of chaos theory - one action doesn’t mean another will definitely happen. Would we have been pushing for a third if it had been 2-0? Would Henderson have played the role he was at that stage?
It’s safe to say we wouldn’t have played with six players in forward positions after 20 minutes if the score was 0-0.
The only certainty was we lost a 3-2 lead because of the last five minutes. |
Yes, I know what you're saying but you can't just obliterate the first three minutes as though they didn't happen, they are as relevant as the last three. Without the first three minutes we don't arrive at the final conclusion. The start and end of the game sum the game up in a nutshell, very bad game management. We messed up once and then to compound matters we did the exact same thing again 87 minutes later. The manager doesn't come out of the game with credit, we started terribly and then finished the game terribly and the late decisions from the manager contributed to that. [Post edited 3 Nov 22:09]
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Yes, I know what you're saying but you can't just obliterate the first three minutes as though they didn't happen, they are as relevant as the last three. Without the first three minutes we don't arrive at the final conclusion. The start and end of the game sum the game up in a nutshell, very bad game management. We messed up once and then to compound matters we did the exact same thing again 87 minutes later. The manager doesn't come out of the game with credit, we started terribly and then finished the game terribly and the late decisions from the manager contributed to that. [Post edited 3 Nov 22:09]
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Think we agree on that in the main. It’s that any argument that the damage was done at the start is not factually correct. We were leading until late and then lost because of our own failings in the last few minutes.
The one thing I will disagree on is saying that the manager doesn’t come out of the game with credit. As mentioned plenty before, he changed the formation twice and his team played some great stuff to regain the lead. That’s what was meant about being fair - but that’s only a personal opinion of course and based on the evidence of the game. [Post edited 3 Nov 22:11]
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Think we agree on that in the main. It’s that any argument that the damage was done at the start is not factually correct. We were leading until late and then lost because of our own failings in the last few minutes.
The one thing I will disagree on is saying that the manager doesn’t come out of the game with credit. As mentioned plenty before, he changed the formation twice and his team played some great stuff to regain the lead. That’s what was meant about being fair - but that’s only a personal opinion of course and based on the evidence of the game. [Post edited 3 Nov 22:11]
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Well we'll agree to disagree then. When you concede two goals in the first three minutes of a game of course it's going to impact the game. Without those two goals we win the game comfortably, we spent the rest of the game trying to repair the damage. Agree that we got back in the game but we had no other option than to play front foot football. I think you're concentrating on trying to defend the manager when the reality is that the way we start games, attempt to play out from our own six yard box and concede ridiculous goals is really damaging us. It needs calling out and it's happening too often. The good passages of play in between become insignificant because we're throwing points away and exiting the FA Cup costs the Club and the Ogden family a lot of money. McNultys post match interview isn't great neither, smiling and relaxed, the complete opposite of how the fans feel. We've been knocked out of the cup and made a balls up of the game, at least show a bit of emotion. It screams comfort zone to me
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Well we'll agree to disagree then. When you concede two goals in the first three minutes of a game of course it's going to impact the game. Without those two goals we win the game comfortably, we spent the rest of the game trying to repair the damage. Agree that we got back in the game but we had no other option than to play front foot football. I think you're concentrating on trying to defend the manager when the reality is that the way we start games, attempt to play out from our own six yard box and concede ridiculous goals is really damaging us. It needs calling out and it's happening too often. The good passages of play in between become insignificant because we're throwing points away and exiting the FA Cup costs the Club and the Ogden family a lot of money. McNultys post match interview isn't great neither, smiling and relaxed, the complete opposite of how the fans feel. We've been knocked out of the cup and made a balls up of the game, at least show a bit of emotion. It screams comfort zone to me
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"The good passages of play in between become insignificant..."
I'd go further. The good passages are testament to the travesty that the manager visits upon his players, the fans and the club, by denying them the opportunity to play to our potential, and witness the furtherance of the Ogden project | |
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"The good passages of play in between become insignificant..."
I'd go further. The good passages are testament to the travesty that the manager visits upon his players, the fans and the club, by denying them the opportunity to play to our potential, and witness the furtherance of the Ogden project |
I agree with that, you come away from games thinking these players are capable of much more than what we are seeing. Speak to a lot of fans they all think the same way. [Post edited 3 Nov 22:44]
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Well we'll agree to disagree then. When you concede two goals in the first three minutes of a game of course it's going to impact the game. Without those two goals we win the game comfortably, we spent the rest of the game trying to repair the damage. Agree that we got back in the game but we had no other option than to play front foot football. I think you're concentrating on trying to defend the manager when the reality is that the way we start games, attempt to play out from our own six yard box and concede ridiculous goals is really damaging us. It needs calling out and it's happening too often. The good passages of play in between become insignificant because we're throwing points away and exiting the FA Cup costs the Club and the Ogden family a lot of money. McNultys post match interview isn't great neither, smiling and relaxed, the complete opposite of how the fans feel. We've been knocked out of the cup and made a balls up of the game, at least show a bit of emotion. It screams comfort zone to me
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No, we don’t know if we’d win the game comfortably without that start. It may have been a 1-0 win or a 1-0 loss in terrible match. We’ve already discussed why that is the case.
Nor am I concentrating on defending the manager. The criticism around how we started and ended the game and his substitution late on has come from myself too.
What I am doing is concentrating on the facts and being fair to a manager who made tactical changes he’s been criticised for not making before (particularly by myself when it comes to formation) to ensure his side not only got back onto the game, but produced a great spectacle for spectators (something else he’s rightly been criticised for after some games).
If I’m being honest, it’s becoming almost pointless to ‘defend’ McNulty because it’s badged as that. When in fact it’s an honest assessment of his positives and negatives.
He won’t change the way he wants his teams to play, that much is obvious. Fans are totally right to call it out when it doesn’t work, to analyse his mistakes and how we could do better. Personally I think there’s as much positive as there is negative about the football side of the club at the moment, with a skilful, committed team that plays some great football at times and are together under a manager who has created that culture. Others see it differently, that’s fine.
Yesterday we saw a cracking cup tie though. No matter what we all think about the details, that’s a fact. And that’s two “proper” matches in a row at home that any newer fans will hopefully have enjoyed, despite the noted disappointments. | |
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"The good passages of play in between become insignificant..."
I'd go further. The good passages are testament to the travesty that the manager visits upon his players, the fans and the club, by denying them the opportunity to play to our potential, and witness the furtherance of the Ogden project |
Were the attacking changes to how we were set up denying them the opportunity to play to their potential?
Specifically talking about how Burger and Henderson were employed.
Or are we saying we should have played that formation from the start? | |
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No, we don’t know if we’d win the game comfortably without that start. It may have been a 1-0 win or a 1-0 loss in terrible match. We’ve already discussed why that is the case.
Nor am I concentrating on defending the manager. The criticism around how we started and ended the game and his substitution late on has come from myself too.
What I am doing is concentrating on the facts and being fair to a manager who made tactical changes he’s been criticised for not making before (particularly by myself when it comes to formation) to ensure his side not only got back onto the game, but produced a great spectacle for spectators (something else he’s rightly been criticised for after some games).
If I’m being honest, it’s becoming almost pointless to ‘defend’ McNulty because it’s badged as that. When in fact it’s an honest assessment of his positives and negatives.
He won’t change the way he wants his teams to play, that much is obvious. Fans are totally right to call it out when it doesn’t work, to analyse his mistakes and how we could do better. Personally I think there’s as much positive as there is negative about the football side of the club at the moment, with a skilful, committed team that plays some great football at times and are together under a manager who has created that culture. Others see it differently, that’s fine.
Yesterday we saw a cracking cup tie though. No matter what we all think about the details, that’s a fact. And that’s two “proper” matches in a row at home that any newer fans will hopefully have enjoyed, despite the noted disappointments. |
I didn't view the Halifax game as a good game from a Dale point of view though, for large passages of that game we were chasing shadows. A Halifax team that has one one of the lowest playing budgets in the league according to their fans. I loved the way we stayed in the game and took our chances, battling qualities which we all like and they deserved credit for that. It was good tto see those qualities. The first half in particular wasn't right though, not when we are playing at home. So no, it wasn't a win that filled me with confidence, in fact I was worried as to why Halifax could reduce us to chasing shadows for large periods of the game. Our home performances have in general been poor this season, yesterday was a calamity at the start and at the finish. We conceded four goals in a home game, that in itself speaks volumes and it can't be defended. The fact that it was a great game for neutral observers, or good to watch is worthy of mention but the main thing to take from the game is the first and last few minutes. We conceded four goals in those seven minutes, ridiculous really. [Post edited 4 Nov 0:03]
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I didn't view the Halifax game as a good game from a Dale point of view though, for large passages of that game we were chasing shadows. A Halifax team that has one one of the lowest playing budgets in the league according to their fans. I loved the way we stayed in the game and took our chances, battling qualities which we all like and they deserved credit for that. It was good tto see those qualities. The first half in particular wasn't right though, not when we are playing at home. So no, it wasn't a win that filled me with confidence, in fact I was worried as to why Halifax could reduce us to chasing shadows for large periods of the game. Our home performances have in general been poor this season, yesterday was a calamity at the start and at the finish. We conceded four goals in a home game, that in itself speaks volumes and it can't be defended. The fact that it was a great game for neutral observers, or good to watch is worthy of mention but the main thing to take from the game is the first and last few minutes. We conceded four goals in those seven minutes, ridiculous really. [Post edited 4 Nov 0:03]
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At no stage have I defended it.
But I have managed to give the manager credit for his impact on what happened inbetween. Worth noting we may not have won the Halifax game had we defended late on like we did yesterday. But we did because we defended well. Yesterday we lost playing much better attacking football.
That’s how the game is sometimes, I guess. | |
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