| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 11:25 - Oct 27 with 1287 views | max936 |
The question that needs asking is how many of those 15 million are contributing to the Treasury to warrant them having their NI number.
The good old hard working Tax payer is again picking up the bill, those who have been in Downing St have been signing things off with abandon, cause their decisions won't affect them in any way up in their Ivory Towers. |  |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:11 - Oct 27 with 1184 views | KeithHaynes |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 11:25 - Oct 27 by max936 |
The question that needs asking is how many of those 15 million are contributing to the Treasury to warrant them having their NI number.
The good old hard working Tax payer is again picking up the bill, those who have been in Downing St have been signing things off with abandon, cause their decisions won't affect them in any way up in their Ivory Towers. |
My concern is the deaths that they cause as a result of them being here. |  |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:26 - Oct 27 with 1169 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:11 - Oct 27 by KeithHaynes |
My concern is the deaths that they cause as a result of them being here. |
Are the Government still refusing to give out the crime statistics for migrants? |  |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:50 - Oct 27 with 1159 views | AnotherJohn |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:26 - Oct 27 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Are the Government still refusing to give out the crime statistics for migrants? |
To the best of my knowledge no official statistics are collected for crime and either asylum seekers or immigrants as a whole. However, there is some indirect information on things such as arrests by ethnic group (not all of whom will be recent immigrants).
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-syst
"In general, minority ethnic groups appear to be over-represented at many stages throughout the CJS compared with the White ethnic group. This is especially apparent when comparing to the ethnic breakdown of the population of England and Wales[footnote 1]. The greatest disparity appears at the point of stop and search, custodial remands and prison population. Among minority ethnic groups, Black individuals were often the most over-represented."
There are studies from Germany and Sweden showing higher offending rates among recent immigrants than native-born persons, but that is the kind of research that is often rubbished by those with progressive views.
Don't know if anybody else has more up-to-date information. |  | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 18:06 - Oct 27 with 1149 views | felixstowe_jack |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:50 - Oct 27 by AnotherJohn |
To the best of my knowledge no official statistics are collected for crime and either asylum seekers or immigrants as a whole. However, there is some indirect information on things such as arrests by ethnic group (not all of whom will be recent immigrants).
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-syst
"In general, minority ethnic groups appear to be over-represented at many stages throughout the CJS compared with the White ethnic group. This is especially apparent when comparing to the ethnic breakdown of the population of England and Wales[footnote 1]. The greatest disparity appears at the point of stop and search, custodial remands and prison population. Among minority ethnic groups, Black individuals were often the most over-represented."
There are studies from Germany and Sweden showing higher offending rates among recent immigrants than native-born persons, but that is the kind of research that is often rubbished by those with progressive views.
Don't know if anybody else has more up-to-date information. |
11.9 % of our prison population are foriegn born nationals. | |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 21:15 - Oct 27 with 1100 views | max936 |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:11 - Oct 27 by KeithHaynes |
My concern is the deaths that they cause as a result of them being here. |
Nobody knows what the are doing, there could be cells being organised to cause carnage here, every time you see them coming off those boats they all look like men of a fighting age, who knows what the future holds, the secret army is here already if war kicks off in Europe we could be facing an enemy already here.
I hope not, but who really knows. | |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 21:27 - Oct 27 with 1093 views | Dr_Winston |
This is a very emotive subject that I know quite a lot about, so I will comment, but choose my words carefully.
I've got no problem with immigration in general. Many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people have relocated to the UK in the last few decades and been a significant benefit in the process. This ranges from Asians forced out by Idi Amin in the 70's, to Ukranians who arrived in the 2020's. The right kind of migration is an absolute net benefit to the UK and I've got no time for those who would prevent it entirely.
However, the insistence by the left that anyone arriving in the UK has a right to do so has opened up a hornet's nest. Albanian Gangsters. Romanian Beggars. Somali Rapists. Syrian Jihadists. All of whom would have been removed shortly after arrival by any competent Govt, but given the lack of one have arrived and thrived. |  |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 01:03 - Oct 28 with 1044 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 21:27 - Oct 27 by Dr_Winston |
This is a very emotive subject that I know quite a lot about, so I will comment, but choose my words carefully.
I've got no problem with immigration in general. Many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people have relocated to the UK in the last few decades and been a significant benefit in the process. This ranges from Asians forced out by Idi Amin in the 70's, to Ukranians who arrived in the 2020's. The right kind of migration is an absolute net benefit to the UK and I've got no time for those who would prevent it entirely.
However, the insistence by the left that anyone arriving in the UK has a right to do so has opened up a hornet's nest. Albanian Gangsters. Romanian Beggars. Somali Rapists. Syrian Jihadists. All of whom would have been removed shortly after arrival by any competent Govt, but given the lack of one have arrived and thrived. |
Its not the left though is it ?
Its International law,
The key is to process the claims quickly.
Then they can work or be kicked out.
The right promised that their Brexit would sort this.
They lied. |  |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 13:39 - Oct 28 with 975 views | controversial_jack |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 01:03 - Oct 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Its not the left though is it ?
Its International law,
The key is to process the claims quickly.
Then they can work or be kicked out.
The right promised that their Brexit would sort this.
They lied. |
Brexit working well then? | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 20:45 - Oct 28 with 914 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 13:39 - Oct 28 by controversial_jack |
Brexit working well then? |
Very very very badly.
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 15:02 - Oct 30 with 816 views | SullutaCreturned |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 01:03 - Oct 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Its not the left though is it ?
Its International law,
The key is to process the claims quickly.
Then they can work or be kicked out.
The right promised that their Brexit would sort this.
They lied. |
Because there isn't an immigartion problem across the EU. EU members aren't seeing riots, more extreme governments being voted in or laws being made that run contrary to EU laws....
cfr.org/article/europes-migration-dilemma#:~:text=More%20than%20385%2C000%20such%20migrants,migration%20system%20already%20considered%20ineffectual. | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 11:23 - Nov 3 with 693 views | controversial_jack |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 15:02 - Oct 30 by SullutaCreturned |
Because there isn't an immigartion problem across the EU. EU members aren't seeing riots, more extreme governments being voted in or laws being made that run contrary to EU laws....
cfr.org/article/europes-migration-dilemma#:~:text=More%20than%20385%2C000%20such%20migrants,migration%20system%20already%20considered%20ineffectual. |
We were told though, that Brexit would prevent the refugees coming here. It didn't, it was clearly a lie by the xenophobes and racists | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 12:09 - Nov 3 with 674 views | AnotherJohn |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 11:23 - Nov 3 by controversial_jack |
We were told though, that Brexit would prevent the refugees coming here. It didn't, it was clearly a lie by the xenophobes and racists |
Before Brexit the UK electorate could not hold our Government responsible because the EU acquis made it impossible to act. Now it is within the power of our Government to withdraw from any treaty that prevents it taking action. The last government failed to deal with the problem and they felt the backlash. Labour too will be held accountable in due course. | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 16:46 - Nov 3 with 638 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Most of the 15 million were European nationals settling in the UK like UK people settle in Spain. There is nothing shocking about thee figures. Swansea has a Polish born guy in the u21 and fine fellow and prospect too.
https://www.swanseacity.com/player/338 [Post edited 3 Nov 16:48]
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 20:33 - Nov 11 with 439 views | howenjack |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 17:50 - Oct 27 by AnotherJohn |
To the best of my knowledge no official statistics are collected for crime and either asylum seekers or immigrants as a whole. However, there is some indirect information on things such as arrests by ethnic group (not all of whom will be recent immigrants).
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/ethnicity-and-the-criminal-justice-syst
"In general, minority ethnic groups appear to be over-represented at many stages throughout the CJS compared with the White ethnic group. This is especially apparent when comparing to the ethnic breakdown of the population of England and Wales[footnote 1]. The greatest disparity appears at the point of stop and search, custodial remands and prison population. Among minority ethnic groups, Black individuals were often the most over-represented."
There are studies from Germany and Sweden showing higher offending rates among recent immigrants than native-born persons, but that is the kind of research that is often rubbished by those with progressive views.
Don't know if anybody else has more up-to-date information. |
Sweden .... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14067721/Syrian-asylum-seeker-widow-sta | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 20:55 - Nov 11 with 425 views | Flashberryjack |
Next stop Dover. |  |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 21:28 - Nov 11 with 410 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 11:23 - Nov 3 by controversial_jack |
We were told though, that Brexit would prevent the refugees coming here. It didn't, it was clearly a lie by the xenophobes and racists |
Yes we were.
Take back control of our laws, our borders, and our money they said.
They said it in 2016.
People voted for it.
Fast forward to 2024.
Farage and Reform say vote us and we will stop the boats.
And people are believing them for a second time.
Wake up people ffs.
Farage ain’t going to fix migration.
He just wants to buddy up to Trump.
Little interest in hard work as an MP. | |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 21:35 - Nov 11 with 397 views | Luther27 |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 21:28 - Nov 11 by Kilkennyjack |
Yes we were.
Take back control of our laws, our borders, and our money they said.
They said it in 2016.
People voted for it.
Fast forward to 2024.
Farage and Reform say vote us and we will stop the boats.
And people are believing them for a second time.
Wake up people ffs.
Farage ain’t going to fix migration.
He just wants to buddy up to Trump.
Little interest in hard work as an MP. |
You can’t fight the Judiciary can you. That’s why we are where we are. | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 04:49 - Nov 15 with 258 views | AnotherJohn |
There were two more stories about migration statistics this week that raised eyebrows.
The first is a claim by Rupert Lowe and Lee Anderson that a larger percentage of foreign nationals than expected is claiming benefits. Lowe has pointed to DWP data suggesting that since April 2019 more than 3.3 million foreign nationals have successfully completed Habitual Residence Tests that help establish eligibility for Universal Credit.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/they-are-takers-lee-anderson-warns-number-
The DWP says they do not recognise Lowe's figure and that passing the Habitual Residence Test does not equate to receiving benefits. However, they are not providing their own figure, and it does look like the number must be very high.
The second story is about the rising number of unaccompanied migrant children in local authority care, which is around a third of placements in some council areas.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/asylum-seekers-make-up-a-third-of-children
The average cost of these placements is around £4K per child per week, but can be much higher if mental health or language support is needed. An analysis by the LGA published in November 2023 found that in 2018/2019 there were 120 cases in England costing over £10K per week, rising to 1,510 cases in 2022/23. 91% of councils had at least one such case. The most expensive placement cost £63,000 per week, although this may not have been a migrant. | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 10:15 - Nov 15 with 216 views | controversial_jack |
Thousands of Ukranians here too, when the majority of the country hasn't seen conflict.Why couldn't those from the east have just moved to the west of the country? They are here as economic migrants not refugees | | | |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 08:41 - Nov 16 with 145 views | Boundy |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 16:46 - Nov 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Most of the 15 million were European nationals settling in the UK like UK people settle in Spain. There is nothing shocking about thee figures. Swansea has a Polish born guy in the u21 and fine fellow and prospect too.
https://www.swanseacity.com/player/338 [Post edited 3 Nov 16:48]
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Whom I chat to when walking our respective dogs, nice chap. | |
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| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 09:55 - Nov 16 with 133 views | onehunglow |
| 15 million migrants got NI numbers in last 20 years on 10:15 - Nov 15 by controversial_jack |
Thousands of Ukranians here too, when the majority of the country hasn't seen conflict.Why couldn't those from the east have just moved to the west of the country? They are here as economic migrants not refugees |
What did these fascist supporters say to you ? | |
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