| Monk Back In Management ... on 15:32 - Mar 4 with 2591 views | Dr_Winston |
Finding his level. |  |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 15:43 - Mar 4 with 2572 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I wonder what the contract looks like in terms of severance.
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 16:11 - Mar 4 with 2549 views | swancity |
A Swansea City legend and it’s good to see him back. It’s the type of job that might have suited him better straight after he stopped playing quite honestly but he wasn’t going to turn down Jenkins and the chance at Swansea. And his overall record at Swansea was very good in terms of the win ratio of around 37% in the Premier league and our best season whilst in that league of 8th. |  |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 16:44 - Mar 4 with 2512 views | KeithHaynes |
I had to smile. |  |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:00 - Mar 4 with 2428 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 16:11 - Mar 4 by swancity |
A Swansea City legend and it’s good to see him back. It’s the type of job that might have suited him better straight after he stopped playing quite honestly but he wasn’t going to turn down Jenkins and the chance at Swansea. And his overall record at Swansea was very good in terms of the win ratio of around 37% in the Premier league and our best season whilst in that league of 8th. |
He was our best ever PL manager finished higher than both Laudrup and Rogers.
Our decline started after we sacked him. | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:04 - Mar 4 with 2414 views | Whiterockin |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:00 - Mar 4 by felixstowe_jack |
He was our best ever PL manager finished higher than both Laudrup and Rogers.
Our decline started after we sacked him. |
A bit silly to say that Monk was a better manager for us than Laudrup. |  | | |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:06 - Mar 4 with 2400 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:04 - Mar 4 by Whiterockin |
A bit silly to say that Monk was a better manager for us than Laudrup. |
Exactly, you can trace the start of our decline to Mr Monk taking the reins |  | | |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:12 - Mar 4 with 2385 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:00 - Mar 4 by felixstowe_jack |
He was our best ever PL manager finished higher than both Laudrup and Rogers.
Our decline started after we sacked him. |
Monk lost a monster in Bony and got a limp Eder and an unfit Frenchman Franck T in return. He did have Gomis in reserve. Monk bit his lip but let it be known he had "raised eyebrows" about the quality of Bony's replacement. He managed to jkee Swansea in the frame before Guidolin took over.
From memory a young Mitrovic was available but at a fruity £12m fee. Llorente came in a year later with Guidolin for a snip of £5m. Ledbetter had to do better than that. |  |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 19:24 - Mar 4 with 2278 views | QJumpingJack |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:12 - Mar 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Monk lost a monster in Bony and got a limp Eder and an unfit Frenchman Franck T in return. He did have Gomis in reserve. Monk bit his lip but let it be known he had "raised eyebrows" about the quality of Bony's replacement. He managed to jkee Swansea in the frame before Guidolin took over.
From memory a young Mitrovic was available but at a fruity £12m fee. Llorente came in a year later with Guidolin for a snip of £5m. Ledbetter had to do better than that. |
who is your source on transfers/targets? | | | |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:21 - Mar 4 with 2230 views | Dr_Winston |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:06 - Mar 4 by Treforys_Jack |
Exactly, you can trace the start of our decline to Mr Monk taking the reins |
Yep. To about midway through his first full season when his changes started to take effect. That he got the job permanently in the first place after the run of form he oversaw as a caretaker was bad enough.
Jenkins appointed him as he expected GM to be easier to handle than Laudrup, what with him being Huw's snitch inside the camp for many years by that point. Unfortunately for Huwbert once Monk got the top job the ego took over and they had a worse relationship than the one he had with Sousa. | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:24 - Mar 4 with 2227 views | RhonddaSwans |
Nice to see the man back in management.
Also they said no to duff so well done Garry Monk YJB | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:29 - Mar 4 with 2207 views | swancity |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:06 - Mar 4 by Treforys_Jack |
Exactly, you can trace the start of our decline to Mr Monk taking the reins |
No you can’t ..
In his one and only full season we finished in 8th place. That’s hardly a decline. It was an improvement. The double over Manchester United and Arsenal meant that we were and still are one of only a few clubs to have done that in the same season. Prior to Monk coming in, we were on a poor run under Laudrup. The results picked up immediately.
We were in 14th/15th place when Monk was sacked. It was a reversible situation. Our playing style had changed but it changed again when Monk was replaced. Our club was finding it more and more difficult to compete financially. On top of that the owners were looking for a way out. The club was not what it had been. But it’s wrong to try to lay the blame on Monk. He made mistakes of course he did. All managers do. | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:58 - Mar 4 with 2171 views | KeithHaynes |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:29 - Mar 4 by swancity |
No you can’t ..
In his one and only full season we finished in 8th place. That’s hardly a decline. It was an improvement. The double over Manchester United and Arsenal meant that we were and still are one of only a few clubs to have done that in the same season. Prior to Monk coming in, we were on a poor run under Laudrup. The results picked up immediately.
We were in 14th/15th place when Monk was sacked. It was a reversible situation. Our playing style had changed but it changed again when Monk was replaced. Our club was finding it more and more difficult to compete financially. On top of that the owners were looking for a way out. The club was not what it had been. But it’s wrong to try to lay the blame on Monk. He made mistakes of course he did. All managers do. |
He’s just not a very good manager, that season the squad carried him through after the previous manager left. Just an opinion. He’s crap 😂 | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 03:43 - Mar 5 with 2123 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:58 - Mar 4 by KeithHaynes |
He’s just not a very good manager, that season the squad carried him through after the previous manager left. Just an opinion. He’s crap 😂 |
Spot on.
We lost the Swansea way style when a bitter Garry Monk took over.
League Cup final non-selection refers.
The joy of Roberto, Brendan, and Michael was soon gone.
And soon the results were gone as well.
Like someone said, this is more his level. |  |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 05:20 - Mar 5 with 2110 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:29 - Mar 4 by swancity |
No you can’t ..
In his one and only full season we finished in 8th place. That’s hardly a decline. It was an improvement. The double over Manchester United and Arsenal meant that we were and still are one of only a few clubs to have done that in the same season. Prior to Monk coming in, we were on a poor run under Laudrup. The results picked up immediately.
We were in 14th/15th place when Monk was sacked. It was a reversible situation. Our playing style had changed but it changed again when Monk was replaced. Our club was finding it more and more difficult to compete financially. On top of that the owners were looking for a way out. The club was not what it had been. But it’s wrong to try to lay the blame on Monk. He made mistakes of course he did. All managers do. |
The last half of your post agrees that there was a decline but it was reversible . So you do agree that we were in decline and he was the manager. | | | |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 07:04 - Mar 5 with 2089 views | BryanSwan |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 03:43 - Mar 5 by Kilkennyjack |
Spot on.
We lost the Swansea way style when a bitter Garry Monk took over.
League Cup final non-selection refers.
The joy of Roberto, Brendan, and Michael was soon gone.
And soon the results were gone as well.
Like someone said, this is more his level. |
His pragmatic approach was initially able to work well alongside players who had played freely. But we quickly lost the freedom and the pragmatism aas all that was left.
He turned us into just another bottom half team struggling to stay up, playing the same turgid football as the rest.
Yes he finiahed 8th the first season but i think the cost of doing so was much greater. | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 07:08 - Mar 5 with 2087 views | Dr_Winston |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 07:04 - Mar 5 by BryanSwan |
His pragmatic approach was initially able to work well alongside players who had played freely. But we quickly lost the freedom and the pragmatism aas all that was left.
He turned us into just another bottom half team struggling to stay up, playing the same turgid football as the rest.
Yes he finiahed 8th the first season but i think the cost of doing so was much greater. |
Tony Pulis and Sam Allardyce both achieved high PL placings with their teams playing the same kind of industrial football that Monk introduced here and it was just as sustainable in the long run.
Appointing him was one of the single worst decisions of Jenkins' later reign, and that's saying something. | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 07:30 - Mar 5 with 2063 views | Wingstandwood |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:21 - Mar 4 by Dr_Winston |
Yep. To about midway through his first full season when his changes started to take effect. That he got the job permanently in the first place after the run of form he oversaw as a caretaker was bad enough.
Jenkins appointed him as he expected GM to be easier to handle than Laudrup, what with him being Huw's snitch inside the camp for many years by that point. Unfortunately for Huwbert once Monk got the top job the ego took over and they had a worse relationship than the one he had with Sousa. |
Yep, and a special mention to his backroom boys who were also a complete and utter joke, we were talking about a Premier League club here. Just look at ALL their CV's since.
What a bunch of (severance/compo pay-outs aside) do-er's and (NOT!) winners hey! |  |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 08:33 - Mar 5 with 1995 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:58 - Mar 4 by KeithHaynes |
He’s just not a very good manager, that season the squad carried him through after the previous manager left. Just an opinion. He’s crap 😂 |
He's been poor everywhere he has managed. | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 09:04 - Mar 5 with 1972 views | Wingstandwood |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 08:33 - Mar 5 by JACKMANANDBOY |
He's been poor everywhere he has managed. |
The guy was shoe-in'd into the Swansea job and had a good early track record because he was nothing more than a sneaky teachers pet who ended up gaining utterly false credibility, by means of walking straight into a room stuffed full of the family silver., that wasn't his.
He hardly started off from scratch from an extremely disadvantageous position having to deal with an utterly cr@p squad that was in situ from the very start. | |
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 09:23 - Mar 5 with 1949 views | JumpingJackFlash |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 20:58 - Mar 4 by KeithHaynes |
He’s just not a very good manager, that season the squad carried him through after the previous manager left. Just an opinion. He’s crap 😂 |
Indeed. He did ok with Laudrup’s team but anyone could have done that. As soon as he started getting rid of the talented, creative players and moulding the team in his image we declined rapidly. | | | |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 10:37 - Mar 5 with 1907 views | whiterock |
Can't anyone be pleased for our ex-captain, and people sing 'we all dream of a team of Alan Tate's' | | | |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 10:46 - Mar 5 with 1897 views | Dr_Winston |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 10:37 - Mar 5 by whiterock |
Can't anyone be pleased for our ex-captain, and people sing 'we all dream of a team of Alan Tate's' |
If Monk hadn't revealed himself to be the type of person he is by sh*t stirring behind Sousa's back and then doing the exact same thing to Laudrup (mostly because neither of them much rated him as a player) then perhaps people would have more sympathy for him.
Unfortunately he whizzed on what could have been a seriously good legacy with his actions and can have no complaints about his current standing with the support. [Post edited 5 Mar 11:00]
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| Monk Back In Management ... on 10:51 - Mar 5 with 1896 views | Whiterockin |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 10:37 - Mar 5 by whiterock |
Can't anyone be pleased for our ex-captain, and people sing 'we all dream of a team of Alan Tate's' |
Not really, he could have been remembered as a great here. But IMO he spoilt it by bitching to HJ and dismantling the attractive team he inherited (that got us to 8th). We were in a far worse place when he was sacked to when he got the managers job. | | | |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 11:25 - Mar 5 with 1870 views | STID2017 |
| Monk Back In Management ... on 18:00 - Mar 4 by felixstowe_jack |
He was our best ever PL manager finished higher than both Laudrup and Rogers.
Our decline started after we sacked him. |
Yes of course he was.
Far better manager than Rodgers or Laudrup ...
Sorry but what tripe |  |
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