| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? 03:49 - Aug 6 with 37735 views | SydneyRs |
We all know things look very grim right now and many want him gone, but is there actually anyone available that would firstly even entertain this job and secondly be any better than GA given the obvious constraints?
I genuinely feel for the guy and believe he's giving it everything he has. But the constant forced positivity interviews that are getting very repetitive are wearing thin. He's inherited a mess for sure but it still feels like a lot of the players aren't having him or possibly just aren't having the club any more.
Its tough. He clearly had players at Wycombe who bought in and was able to build a culture there, but as we know there's a few here with questionable levels of commitment to say the least. How on earth can he turn it around and if not him who else could do better with no money available? |  | | |  |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 04:43 - Aug 6 with 16546 views | Loftgirl |
For the first time since he's been here, I didn't watch the post match interview. It's like Groundhog Day. |  | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 05:24 - Aug 6 with 16501 views | 08olesen |
I go on about it but Warbs is what we need. The guy is the epitome of calm and collected and that is what we need right now. He knows the club and understands finance too.
GA's whole attitude around us being lucky to be here really frustrates me. We are not wycombe and he needs to stop acting like we are.
We simply cannot go and assemble a whole squad for GA and then sack him in 6 games time when the window is closed. Get him out now and get Warbs in before he goes elsewhere and we are properly screwed. |  |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 06:09 - Aug 6 with 16437 views | PlanetHonneywood |
The response of the fanbase was pretty unanimous on the prospect of his return: that this wasn't a good idea, and had the potential to go horribly wrong.
Thus, what's transpired is of no surprise to us. Of course, when I say us, that doesn't include the boardroom bellends who, yet again, have made another poor decision.
The problem since August 2011, no institutional football intelligence in the place. In fact, no intelligence at all. Every problem at QPR emanates from the top, and after 12 years of it, not sure how much more stretch the elastic has.
QPR will remain in perpetual doom until such time as we have fools driving the bus.
Personally, I had hoped after a litany of cowboys, the Indians might be an improvement. Turns out they were bigger clowns. |  |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 06:24 - Aug 6 with 16407 views | DejR_vu |
There is somewhere, but the chances of these owners finding that person is about as high as me landing on the moon on a Space Hopper. | |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 06:35 - Aug 6 with 16376 views | Lblock |
There was an oven ready alternative for a short term tenure pre Gareth
Warnock was the right man at the right time
The clowns didn’t want exposing so he was ruled out and never considered
He’s got many faults, I’ve heard all the rumours, but the club needed a back to basics approach with certain elements fcukd off out of it. He’d of done that I reckon.
An experienced head with loads of contacts would probably have got some decent leaders into the dressing room an all.
My feeling is that the word throughout the game is don’t go near Queens Park Rangers unless they offer you mega money and a three year contract weighed heavily in your favour. We are clearly a club heading rapidly for total implosion
Novice Park Rangers FC
Clueless owners + First time DoF + Idiot Mafia coaches / cheap managers + useless recruitment Dept + apathetic fans = disaster
So tge answer is no realistic alternative to poor old Gareth who will remain like Comical Ali post match to the end unless he considers his own sanity and resigns.
Then Paul Hall or another one of the Idiot Mafia Jobs for the Lads club will be handed the reigns to continue the embarrassment |  |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 07:23 - Aug 6 with 16232 views | QPROslo |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 05:24 - Aug 6 by 08olesen |
I go on about it but Warbs is what we need. The guy is the epitome of calm and collected and that is what we need right now. He knows the club and understands finance too.
GA's whole attitude around us being lucky to be here really frustrates me. We are not wycombe and he needs to stop acting like we are.
We simply cannot go and assemble a whole squad for GA and then sack him in 6 games time when the window is closed. Get him out now and get Warbs in before he goes elsewhere and we are properly screwed. |
100% this too. | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:19 - Aug 6 with 16030 views | traininvain |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 05:24 - Aug 6 by 08olesen |
I go on about it but Warbs is what we need. The guy is the epitome of calm and collected and that is what we need right now. He knows the club and understands finance too.
GA's whole attitude around us being lucky to be here really frustrates me. We are not wycombe and he needs to stop acting like we are.
We simply cannot go and assemble a whole squad for GA and then sack him in 6 games time when the window is closed. Get him out now and get Warbs in before he goes elsewhere and we are properly screwed. |
And most the players know Warburton and respect him. We need someone who can get the best out of the likes of Willock, Chair, Dykes etc. Warburton’s proven he can do that. |  | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:25 - Aug 6 with 15993 views | DejR_vu |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 05:24 - Aug 6 by 08olesen |
I go on about it but Warbs is what we need. The guy is the epitome of calm and collected and that is what we need right now. He knows the club and understands finance too.
GA's whole attitude around us being lucky to be here really frustrates me. We are not wycombe and he needs to stop acting like we are.
We simply cannot go and assemble a whole squad for GA and then sack him in 6 games time when the window is closed. Get him out now and get Warbs in before he goes elsewhere and we are properly screwed. |
Couldn’t agree more but, if you’re Mark Warburton, why, on earth would you come back here? | |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:36 - Aug 6 with 15950 views | QPROslo |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:25 - Aug 6 by DejR_vu |
Couldn’t agree more but, if you’re Mark Warburton, why, on earth would you come back here? |
1) DoF and Head Coach too for a while.
2) A new challenge at a great Club he knows well with some players who he clearly respected and got respect back from
3) Supposedly well-off and may not need mammoth remuneration.
There are probably more reasons for him not to! [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 8:37]
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:52 - Aug 6 with 15838 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:36 - Aug 6 by QPROslo |
1) DoF and Head Coach too for a while.
2) A new challenge at a great Club he knows well with some players who he clearly respected and got respect back from
3) Supposedly well-off and may not need mammoth remuneration.
There are probably more reasons for him not to! [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 8:37]
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I am guessing it would cost at least £2m to pay off the current coaching team and Warbs would not want to come back with zero budget. Plus, just because he's wealthy doesn't mean he wouldn't want a three year deal for him and his team.
It's never going to happen.
I don't think the club can afford a management change and if they did we would be left with Ramsey/Furlong/Hall until the end of the season.
Best hope is we sell Willock quickly, free up funds for 2 mediocre players, a couple of loans, get players fit and get a dirty dozen scrapping for points. | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:54 - Aug 6 with 15821 views | ArcticHoop |
There are few names available who has done good job at this level,but are they interested and some of the names are unpopular among R´s fans (Nathan Jones, Chris Wilder),but i´m sure they are a miles better what we have now.
I believe that once we can get those 2 new cb in and Colback fit we get better defensively,but we are still clueless going forward and don´t be any threat at all. And what really annoys me is that GA constantly talk us as a underdogs against almost every team we play against. If that is the mentality the not very motivating for the players and don´t lift the confidence [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 8:55]
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:00 - Aug 6 with 15757 views | gazza1 |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 07:23 - Aug 6 by QPROslo |
100% this too. |
There is no doubt that Warbs is a far better Manager than GA. Warbs blew his chances here and he had to go - 100%. Big shame but you cannot behave like he did. No point is going on about Warbs.
What is becoming very clear is that GA is finding it tough and maybe not talented enough to manage a Championship side. | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:00 - Aug 6 with 15771 views | QPROslo |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:52 - Aug 6 by ChrisNW6 |
I am guessing it would cost at least £2m to pay off the current coaching team and Warbs would not want to come back with zero budget. Plus, just because he's wealthy doesn't mean he wouldn't want a three year deal for him and his team.
It's never going to happen.
I don't think the club can afford a management change and if they did we would be left with Ramsey/Furlong/Hall until the end of the season.
Best hope is we sell Willock quickly, free up funds for 2 mediocre players, a couple of loans, get players fit and get a dirty dozen scrapping for points. |
There are probably ways to remunerate a new Manager in part after this season. for FFP. Probably not to be quit Gareth and company. But surely he has got to go now. | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:02 - Aug 6 with 15748 views | DejR_vu |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:36 - Aug 6 by QPROslo |
1) DoF and Head Coach too for a while.
2) A new challenge at a great Club he knows well with some players who he clearly respected and got respect back from
3) Supposedly well-off and may not need mammoth remuneration.
There are probably more reasons for him not to! [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 8:37]
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Well, I guess if he has absolutely no other choices, but if he has any at all, I’m thinking he’s not coming back to the club he, under the circumstances, did a great job at and was shown the door by, because the deluded owners/DoF appointed by them, thought they could do better, when those said deluded owners are still here, have destroyed everything, within 12 months, he spent 3 years putting together, and have all but driven the club into the ground. I wish/hope I’m wrong, we would at least have a tiny chance. | |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:03 - Aug 6 with 15751 views | supahoopsa |
1. Mark Warburton
2. Chris Houghton - pretty sure he's with Ghana ATM, but perhaps we could tempt him?
3. Graham Potter - he no longer needs the money |  |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? (n/t) on 09:07 - Aug 6 with 15723 views | QPROslo |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:02 - Aug 6 by DejR_vu |
Well, I guess if he has absolutely no other choices, but if he has any at all, I’m thinking he’s not coming back to the club he, under the circumstances, did a great job at and was shown the door by, because the deluded owners/DoF appointed by them, thought they could do better, when those said deluded owners are still here, have destroyed everything, within 12 months, he spent 3 years putting together, and have all but driven the club into the ground. I wish/hope I’m wrong, we would at least have a tiny chance. |
I don't know who the driving force in not renewing Warburton's contract was, but Les was probably well involved in that and he has gone now. So a part of that problem is removed.
Also I remember Warburton moving out and bringing in many, many players during his first close-seasons with us. A job that desperately needs doing again now. He looks well qualified for it. [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 9:12]
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:15 - Aug 6 with 15682 views | PhilmyRs |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:03 - Aug 6 by supahoopsa |
1. Mark Warburton
2. Chris Houghton - pretty sure he's with Ghana ATM, but perhaps we could tempt him?
3. Graham Potter - he no longer needs the money |
Thought GA was a huge mistake from the outset and regularly flagged his flaws last term but do think there were some mitigating circumstances for yesterday’s horror show and to sack him after that is incredibly unfair. I would have shaken hands at the end of last season and brought a new face in and allowed them preseason. Given me didn’t do that it makes little sense to abandon the approach after one game so need to give him more time. I do think he’ll have departed by Christmas, if not sooner though.
In terms of successors, Gary O’Neil seemed to do a decent job at Bournemouth, background in working with young players, good coach of players etc. although no idea if he’s back in work now and the tough job he’d have with us may be one he’s not keen on | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:15 - Aug 6 with 15678 views | QPerthR |
I seem to remember that people complained a lot that Warburton didn’t have a plan B , are you hoping he found one by now | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:19 - Aug 6 with 15632 views | stevec |
We’ve got a mixture of players who don’t want to play for the club and players who are not good enough at this level.
Gareth has had a summer to rectify that and doesn’t seem to have made a dent in the problem, in some cases he’s even added to it.
I don’t think it would be fair to lumber another manager with this bunch, give GA a chance to dig himself out of this mess, at least until it is beyond doubt that’s he’s not equipped to manage this club.
He needs to get the best part of an eleven out there who he can trust and can compete at this level. Tough ask, but start by building around Colbert. Field alongside, and one other. Perhaps give the road runner Duke fella a chance. Build an uncompromising three across centre mid.
So short on fit and able backs. Hopefully Dunne, Fox alongside. That’s a start. Paal should do also. But we have to get a championship standard right back above all else, because there we are totally fcked.
How you try to get goals out of a three in front of that, I haven’t a clue. Dykes does a job, is literally the only forward who’s scored as much as a goal at this level but is very limited, and I don’t know how you fit Sinclair into that equation, but somehow we have to and then pray.
It’s a right old mess, but it’s the boards mess and Gareth’s mess, fckin sort it out. |  | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:31 - Aug 6 with 15552 views | SK_hoops |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:15 - Aug 6 by QPerthR |
I seem to remember that people complained a lot that Warburton didn’t have a plan B , are you hoping he found one by now |
At least he had a plan A. Not convinced Ainsworth has. | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:43 - Aug 6 with 15490 views | RangersDave |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:00 - Aug 6 by gazza1 |
There is no doubt that Warbs is a far better Manager than GA. Warbs blew his chances here and he had to go - 100%. Big shame but you cannot behave like he did. No point is going on about Warbs.
What is becoming very clear is that GA is finding it tough and maybe not talented enough to manage a Championship side. |
But we are not a championship side.
We have no money, no talent, and crappy players.
If its Gareth or Pepp in charge, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, simples! |  |
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| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:49 - Aug 6 with 15459 views | Rangersw12 |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:43 - Aug 6 by RangersDave |
But we are not a championship side.
We have no money, no talent, and crappy players.
If its Gareth or Pepp in charge, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, simples! |
You can still set up far better than we did yesterday regardless of the standard of players . | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 09:56 - Aug 6 with 15439 views | ridethewave |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 08:54 - Aug 6 by ArcticHoop |
There are few names available who has done good job at this level,but are they interested and some of the names are unpopular among R´s fans (Nathan Jones, Chris Wilder),but i´m sure they are a miles better what we have now.
I believe that once we can get those 2 new cb in and Colback fit we get better defensively,but we are still clueless going forward and don´t be any threat at all. And what really annoys me is that GA constantly talk us as a underdogs against almost every team we play against. If that is the mentality the not very motivating for the players and don´t lift the confidence [Post edited 6 Aug 2023 8:55]
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I can’t agree that a couple new centre backs will solve (or even improve) this defence. Kakay is not good enough, and even with two relatively experienced CBS last year GA still couldn’t get us remotely shored up at the back.
Someone else made the point that we may have been losing under Critchley, but this was by and large with finer margins in terms of goals and possession, and against mostly teams in the top half. GA’s defensive record against teams mostly in the bottom half (some beneath us at the time) is shambolic. Our inability to defend is as much a manager problem as a player one.
We are well and truly in the sh*t this year, and the board have left themselves with nowhere to go. |  | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 10:02 - Aug 6 with 15399 views | nadera78 |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 05:24 - Aug 6 by 08olesen |
I go on about it but Warbs is what we need. The guy is the epitome of calm and collected and that is what we need right now. He knows the club and understands finance too.
GA's whole attitude around us being lucky to be here really frustrates me. We are not wycombe and he needs to stop acting like we are.
We simply cannot go and assemble a whole squad for GA and then sack him in 6 games time when the window is closed. Get him out now and get Warbs in before he goes elsewhere and we are properly screwed. |
The Mark Warburton who lost £25million in 2021/22 chasing promotion and caused us to be in the dire FFP situation we are now? That Mark Warburton? | | | |
| Is there a realistic alternative to Ainsworth? on 10:18 - Aug 6 with 15334 views | SimplyNico |
Wilder. Available and probably looking to prove a point given the way his last three gigs have ended. | | | |
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