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I was holding out hope that all 5 people on board will be found and rescued despite the oxygen window closing. That was until I met a cave diver by pure accident today on a construction site and he crushed my spirit . If by some miracle the submersible craft makes it to the surface the crew cannot open the rescue hatch from inside .Its bolted shut and can only be opened from outside he mentioned . Hope they make it because thinking of them inside knowing its over for 3 days is beyond cruel. Sorry for the downer thread.Hope they are rescued by the time we wake up
Just got home from work watched the coast guard presser and know its over but at least they died instaniously if that helps the families .RIP
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 02:56 - Jun 23 with 2966 views
Inevitable really and sad. I imagine this may lead to a few legal cases in terms of how poorly prepared it all was, although I assume some sort of waivers were signed.
An extreme example of fcuk around, find out.
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Hope Prevails Still For Titanic Submersible Craft on 06:36 - Jun 23 with 2830 views
Hope Prevails Still For Titanic Submersible Craft on 08:54 - Jun 21 by Landshark
Exactly this.
I can't remember seeing any topics on this forum started about the countless immigrants that have died fleeing their own countries. But then you get a few billionaires paying a shit ton of money going missing on an activity they don't need to do and people get upset.
People with far too much money doing incredibly stupid things having huge amounts of money thrown at the attempt to rescue them.
Meanwhile us mere mortals of the world are just left to drown....
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Hope Prevails Still For Titanic Submersible Craft on 08:48 - Jun 23 with 2723 views
The reason this was a bigger story wasn't because they were billionaires, but rather because of the situation where potentially you had five people in a tiny submersible slowly suffocating to death in the dark. That's what everyone imagined. Now sure, it didn't go that way, which is a mercy, but we didn't know that.
People were thinking about the guy having his son there, knowing they were both going to die. That's no joke.
As for the migrant boat, yeah it's shit but they didn't have the potential timescale, the boat sank and they all drowned. I don't know if there was time for a rescue effort or not but they didn't have the same potential 90 hour window.
Look, you could have a huge earthquake in Haiti today and also have the death of a pointless celebrity (such as a member of Westlife or John Terry) and they'll get similar coverage. Look at the Schofield thing. That was a huge story where as I'm sure there are people dying every day in Syria or something. But the news doesn't pick a running order based on what matters more, but rather what will keep their readers/viewers interested.
Dead billionaire sub will barely touch the news next week and at that point it'll be some bullshit about Meghan Markle or another noncey celeb or some shit.
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 09:25 - Jun 23 with 2656 views
RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 09:11 - Jun 23 by Bluce_Ree
It's not a straight comparison.
The reason this was a bigger story wasn't because they were billionaires, but rather because of the situation where potentially you had five people in a tiny submersible slowly suffocating to death in the dark. That's what everyone imagined. Now sure, it didn't go that way, which is a mercy, but we didn't know that.
People were thinking about the guy having his son there, knowing they were both going to die. That's no joke.
As for the migrant boat, yeah it's shit but they didn't have the potential timescale, the boat sank and they all drowned. I don't know if there was time for a rescue effort or not but they didn't have the same potential 90 hour window.
Look, you could have a huge earthquake in Haiti today and also have the death of a pointless celebrity (such as a member of Westlife or John Terry) and they'll get similar coverage. Look at the Schofield thing. That was a huge story where as I'm sure there are people dying every day in Syria or something. But the news doesn't pick a running order based on what matters more, but rather what will keep their readers/viewers interested.
Dead billionaire sub will barely touch the news next week and at that point it'll be some bullshit about Meghan Markle or another noncey celeb or some shit.
Sadly I think your analysis is spot on.
It's a dreadful way to go but it would have been instant, which is a small mercy. Billionaires playing with toys can come unstuck on a grand scale. We'll probably hear something a few weeks down the line about the mechanical failure that led to it, footings for some legal case and then as you say it will be something about Kim Kardashian's arse or such like.
I mean imagine in a month we get a news day where a flood in India kills 500 people and on the same day Eze signs for Man City and we get like £15m from the sell-on clause.
What's the topic on here going to be?
Imagine a day the President of Peru is assassinated but also on that day Anne Robinson dies. What's leading on the BBC website?
Imagine 1000 migrants die on a boat but that day your cat gets run over. Which one is going to affect you more.
Imagine 1000 cats arriving on a boat and eating Anne Robinson but she's now the President of Peru and QPR have appointed Westlife as Director of Football but on the same day your foot falls off. Which one do you care about?
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 10:44 - Jun 23 with 2537 views
RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 10:41 - Jun 23 by Bluce_Ree
Exactly.
I mean imagine in a month we get a news day where a flood in India kills 500 people and on the same day Eze signs for Man City and we get like £15m from the sell-on clause.
What's the topic on here going to be?
Imagine a day the President of Peru is assassinated but also on that day Anne Robinson dies. What's leading on the BBC website?
Imagine 1000 migrants die on a boat but that day your cat gets run over. Which one is going to affect you more.
Imagine 1000 cats arriving on a boat and eating Anne Robinson but she's now the President of Peru and QPR have appointed Westlife as Director of Football but on the same day your foot falls off. Which one do you care about?
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 10:56 - Jun 23 with 2489 views
RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 10:41 - Jun 23 by Bluce_Ree
Exactly.
I mean imagine in a month we get a news day where a flood in India kills 500 people and on the same day Eze signs for Man City and we get like £15m from the sell-on clause.
What's the topic on here going to be?
Imagine a day the President of Peru is assassinated but also on that day Anne Robinson dies. What's leading on the BBC website?
Imagine 1000 migrants die on a boat but that day your cat gets run over. Which one is going to affect you more.
Imagine 1000 cats arriving on a boat and eating Anne Robinson but she's now the President of Peru and QPR have appointed Westlife as Director of Football but on the same day your foot falls off. Which one do you care about?
Tell me more about these boat cats of which you speak...
RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 10:41 - Jun 23 by Bluce_Ree
Exactly.
I mean imagine in a month we get a news day where a flood in India kills 500 people and on the same day Eze signs for Man City and we get like £15m from the sell-on clause.
What's the topic on here going to be?
Imagine a day the President of Peru is assassinated but also on that day Anne Robinson dies. What's leading on the BBC website?
Imagine 1000 migrants die on a boat but that day your cat gets run over. Which one is going to affect you more.
Imagine 1000 cats arriving on a boat and eating Anne Robinson but she's now the President of Peru and QPR have appointed Westlife as Director of Football but on the same day your foot falls off. Which one do you care about?
The cat that refused to eat Anne Robinson was obviously the weakest Lynx...
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 11:49 - Jun 23 with 2399 views
But I have to say, If I was a billionaire wanting to explore the murky depths of the World's oceans, then I would be building an amazing robot-driven submarine, kitted out with all manner of cameras and lights. And I would sit watching all the potential drama unfold, on the big screen in the cinema room of my nice safe mansion!
P.S. I imagine OceanGate will now be sued into oblivion and someone will be charged with involuntary manslaughter or reckless endangerment.
100% of people who drink water will die.
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 13:05 - Jun 23 with 2286 views
RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 13:24 - Jun 23 by johncharles
One tiny scrap of good news is that the end turned out to sudden and instant rather sitting in that tomb for a week waiting to suffocate to death.
Catastrophic Implosion of a submersible explained:
When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second.
The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.
A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.
The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors.
When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine.
The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.
RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 13:30 - Jun 23 by Sonofpugwash
Catastrophic Implosion of a submersible explained:
When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second.
The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.
A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.
The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors.
When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine.
The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.
that's quite a fascinating insight; far in excess of my 'would have been really quick'
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 14:22 - Jun 23 with 2097 views
But, James Cameron was interviewed and he alluded to the sub already being in trouble, so they may have had some indication. I hope not though.
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
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RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 16:45 - Jun 23 with 1954 views
RIP 5 Souls On Titanic Submersible Craft on 10:41 - Jun 23 by Bluce_Ree
Exactly.
I mean imagine in a month we get a news day where a flood in India kills 500 people and on the same day Eze signs for Man City and we get like £15m from the sell-on clause.
What's the topic on here going to be?
Imagine a day the President of Peru is assassinated but also on that day Anne Robinson dies. What's leading on the BBC website?
Imagine 1000 migrants die on a boat but that day your cat gets run over. Which one is going to affect you more.
Imagine 1000 cats arriving on a boat and eating Anne Robinson but she's now the President of Peru and QPR have appointed Westlife as Director of Football but on the same day your foot falls off. Which one do you care about?
You're definitely right. But that last one is a toughie. Which foot?
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