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Russian thread 15:35 - Oct 2 with 19164 viewsSirjohnalot

Hi all

I’ve taken the decision to ban Controversial Jack and deleted the thread.

This was my decision, I tried to keep the debate up for as long as possible but it got increasingly bizarre and for the good of the site, I removed it.

My decision, any criticism is on me not Keith.
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Russian thread on 21:30 - Nov 6 with 960 viewsCatullus

Russian thread on 18:27 - Nov 6 by controversial_jack

The Ukranian troops on the front have stated, they cannot match the Russian artillery. They lack the guidance too, because the starlink satellite system supplied to them by the US, has been disabled by the Russians.Russian tanks are not being destroyed for this very reason.Ukraine needs forward .

Russia makes it's own weapons , it doesn't have to use 1950s equipment. Yes, they were using older tanks, but that was to act as mobile artillery. Russia is the world leader in electronic warfare too. They can hack anywhere they choose. This isn't the cold war era, things have moved on and you need to keep up.


Yes, do keep up,

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-thousands-newly-mobilised-115900655.html

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/04/putins-nightmare-russias-military-is-pulling

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russians-turning-frontline-without-weapons-091100590.h

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1637215/Russia-news-putin-ukraine-old-lorry

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-14/russia-turns-to-old-tanks-as-

https://inews.co.uk/news/ukraine-war-russia-repurposing-decades-old-weaponry-mod

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-weapons-old-even-western-161400715.html?fr=sycsrp_

Of course, if you're the kind of person who believes everything Russia says and nothing the West says then it doesn't matter. Even worse if you're a troll just looking for bites. Whichever, it's still hysterical to claim Russia is doing so brilliantly.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russian thread on 21:56 - Nov 6 with 914 viewsDJack

Russian thread on 18:27 - Nov 6 by controversial_jack

The Ukranian troops on the front have stated, they cannot match the Russian artillery. They lack the guidance too, because the starlink satellite system supplied to them by the US, has been disabled by the Russians.Russian tanks are not being destroyed for this very reason.Ukraine needs forward .

Russia makes it's own weapons , it doesn't have to use 1950s equipment. Yes, they were using older tanks, but that was to act as mobile artillery. Russia is the world leader in electronic warfare too. They can hack anywhere they choose. This isn't the cold war era, things have moved on and you need to keep up.


Arrant nonsense, again from you.

The Ukraine has stated that it cannot match russian artillery numbers...that's it nothing else. Russian has more artillery pieces than Ukraine and Ukraine has a lot more precision guided shells than russia...they don't have enough but they still have more than russia.

As for making their own weapons, the optics and a load of the electronics, rocketry stuff & ships were made elsewhere... Ukraine

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Russian thread on 22:09 - Nov 6 with 906 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 21:56 - Nov 6 by DJack

Arrant nonsense, again from you.

The Ukraine has stated that it cannot match russian artillery numbers...that's it nothing else. Russian has more artillery pieces than Ukraine and Ukraine has a lot more precision guided shells than russia...they don't have enough but they still have more than russia.

As for making their own weapons, the optics and a load of the electronics, rocketry stuff & ships were made elsewhere... Ukraine


And yet even though Russia is a technical god it has to buy Drones from Iran

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russian thread on 22:31 - Nov 6 with 888 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 22:09 - Nov 6 by Boundy

And yet even though Russia is a technical god it has to buy Drones from Iran


Don't we buy US aircraft?

Russia can"t make it's own wespons
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/3/9/infographic-w
[Post edited 6 Nov 2022 22:38]
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Russian thread on 22:33 - Nov 6 with 886 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 21:30 - Nov 6 by Catullus

Yes, do keep up,

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-thousands-newly-mobilised-115900655.html

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/04/putins-nightmare-russias-military-is-pulling

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russians-turning-frontline-without-weapons-091100590.h

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1637215/Russia-news-putin-ukraine-old-lorry

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-14/russia-turns-to-old-tanks-as-

https://inews.co.uk/news/ukraine-war-russia-repurposing-decades-old-weaponry-mod

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-weapons-old-even-western-161400715.html?fr=sycsrp_

Of course, if you're the kind of person who believes everything Russia says and nothing the West says then it doesn't matter. Even worse if you're a troll just looking for bites. Whichever, it's still hysterical to claim Russia is doing so brilliantly.


Blatant propoganda links
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Russian thread on 23:01 - Nov 6 with 865 viewsDJack

Russian thread on 22:33 - Nov 6 by controversial_jack

Blatant propoganda links


Youve avoided my post.

I take it you are furiously scanning the tankie boards trying to bend some propaganda into something yo can convince an idiot to believe.

It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan

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Russian thread on 23:36 - Nov 6 with 858 viewsmajorraglan

Russian thread on 22:31 - Nov 6 by controversial_jack

Don't we buy US aircraft?

Russia can"t make it's own wespons
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/3/9/infographic-w
[Post edited 6 Nov 2022 22:38]


Russia used to be a huge arms exporter, but given the sanctions applied to their economy and the relatively poor of its tanks, aircraft and other equipment on the battlefield I’d suggest their sales will start to slow down.

In most areas the US is years ahead.
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Russian thread on 00:00 - Nov 7 with 848 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 22:31 - Nov 6 by controversial_jack

Don't we buy US aircraft?

Russia can"t make it's own wespons
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/3/9/infographic-w
[Post edited 6 Nov 2022 22:38]


Do try and keep up after Saudi the US is the next biggest importer of military equipment produced by the UK

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russian thread on 01:20 - Nov 7 with 839 viewsCatullus

Russian thread on 22:33 - Nov 6 by controversial_jack

Blatant propoganda links


Yes obviously, because they are not Russian I guess, you absolute cesspit of a person.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russian thread on 09:31 - Nov 7 with 814 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 01:20 - Nov 7 by Catullus

Yes obviously, because they are not Russian I guess, you absolute cesspit of a person.


Now now, no need to get triggered just because you have no answers. If i posted a slur like that I would get banned.
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Russian thread on 10:06 - Nov 7 with 804 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Russian thread on 23:36 - Nov 6 by majorraglan

Russia used to be a huge arms exporter, but given the sanctions applied to their economy and the relatively poor of its tanks, aircraft and other equipment on the battlefield I’d suggest their sales will start to slow down.

In most areas the US is years ahead.


A huge chunk of US military equipment is made by prisoners for twelve cents an hour.

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Russian thread on 10:18 - Nov 7 with 800 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 00:00 - Nov 7 by Boundy

Do try and keep up after Saudi the US is the next biggest importer of military equipment produced by the UK


So?
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Russian thread on 12:45 - Nov 7 with 772 viewsBoundy

Russian thread on 10:18 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

So?


What

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russian thread on 13:25 - Nov 7 with 763 viewsWingstandwood

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397991/Russian-marines-say-incompeten

Looking dire for Russia! Mutiny here! Mutiny there! Mutiny everywhere.

Argus!

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Russian thread on 13:59 - Nov 7 with 751 viewsBoundy

Not looking good , scenes like this are becoming quite common


"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russian thread on 15:08 - Nov 7 with 742 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 13:25 - Nov 7 by Wingstandwood

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397991/Russian-marines-say-incompeten

Looking dire for Russia! Mutiny here! Mutiny there! Mutiny everywhere.


You do realise that's from the Daily Mail?
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Russian thread on 15:17 - Nov 7 with 724 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Russian thread on 13:25 - Nov 7 by Wingstandwood

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397991/Russian-marines-say-incompeten

Looking dire for Russia! Mutiny here! Mutiny there! Mutiny everywhere.


It’s not mutiny. It’s a pre planned strategic special General appraisal operation.

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Russian thread on 15:26 - Nov 7 with 716 viewsWingstandwood

Russian thread on 15:08 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

You do realise that's from the Daily Mail?


Aye, I do realise that is from The Daily Mail but the video of them Russian soldiers was not!

Argus!

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Russian thread on 15:44 - Nov 7 with 701 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 15:26 - Nov 7 by Wingstandwood

Aye, I do realise that is from The Daily Mail but the video of them Russian soldiers was not!


That unit has actually pushed 10km into Ukrainian territory
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Russian thread on 15:45 - Nov 7 with 700 viewsWingstandwood

Russian thread on 15:44 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

That unit has actually pushed 10km into Ukrainian territory



Argus!

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Russian thread on 15:55 - Nov 7 with 691 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 15:45 - Nov 7 by Wingstandwood



The Daily Fail, was accurate about the 300 being injured or killed, but what they didn't say was that only amounts to about 7% of the brigades strength, and most injured have now returned back to service.

This is the kind of lazy and biased reporting we are getting. More concerning, how do ppl like you and others on here actually believe it?
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Russian thread on 16:04 - Nov 7 with 683 viewsWingstandwood

Russian thread on 15:55 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

The Daily Fail, was accurate about the 300 being injured or killed, but what they didn't say was that only amounts to about 7% of the brigades strength, and most injured have now returned back to service.

This is the kind of lazy and biased reporting we are getting. More concerning, how do ppl like you and others on here actually believe it?



Argus!

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Russian thread on 16:33 - Nov 7 with 665 viewsBoundy

This from the horses mouth ,(literally )


"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Russian thread on 16:52 - Nov 7 with 657 viewsCatullus

Russian thread on 09:31 - Nov 7 by controversial_jack

Now now, no need to get triggered just because you have no answers. If i posted a slur like that I would get banned.


I'm not triggered, you deserve that and more. I have provided answers but because you are either a troll or something even worse you just post rubbish like "obvious propaganda" which is what a "non answer" actually looks like.

PS, Keith, John, any mod, if its true that contro calling someone a cesspit of a person would get him banned then I'll happily take the ban.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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Russian thread on 16:57 - Nov 7 with 654 viewscontroversial_jack

Russian thread on 16:52 - Nov 7 by Catullus

I'm not triggered, you deserve that and more. I have provided answers but because you are either a troll or something even worse you just post rubbish like "obvious propaganda" which is what a "non answer" actually looks like.

PS, Keith, John, any mod, if its true that contro calling someone a cesspit of a person would get him banned then I'll happily take the ban.


i'm giving facts as i see them. Not trolling at all. If you disagree, counter them or ignore me. No need for slurs. We are all adults, not schoolkids.
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