| Florida punish Disney on 12:39 - Apr 21 with 5611 views | Lorax |
Florida punished Disney for disagreeing with the States stance on educating about LGBT issues.
There is nothing woke in having a fair representation of people or educating about it. I agree there is a line to be drawn though, they can go too far. The Christian right though, they'd go too far the other way. A gay person is still a person, aren't they? |  | |  |
| Florida punish Disney on 12:53 - Apr 21 with 5594 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Florida punish Disney on 12:39 - Apr 21 by Lorax |
Florida punished Disney for disagreeing with the States stance on educating about LGBT issues.
There is nothing woke in having a fair representation of people or educating about it. I agree there is a line to be drawn though, they can go too far. The Christian right though, they'd go too far the other way. A gay person is still a person, aren't they? |
" A gay person is still a person, aren't they?"
Of course they are.
But pushing it on children is not on.
Are you aware that US State schools have been showing and providing books on Pornography to young children, there are some pretty sick things going on over there.
Look up after school satanic clubs. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 14:36 - Apr 21 with 5570 views | Professor |
| Florida punish Disney on 12:53 - Apr 21 by A_Fans_Dad |
" A gay person is still a person, aren't they?"
Of course they are.
But pushing it on children is not on.
Are you aware that US State schools have been showing and providing books on Pornography to young children, there are some pretty sick things going on over there.
Look up after school satanic clubs. |
Back on the reliable sources I see.
It’s nothing but bigotry and de Santis’s ambitions for the MAGA bigots. Disney is hardly a left wing organisation out to corrupt. It’s reflecting its customer base which are pretty wealth and educated. Many are gay. Perhaps the governor and his homophobic cronies want to reflect on the 20 million visitors each year to the House of Mouse. Not just supporting Disney but thousands of jobs and businesses.
So-called Christians again supporting hatred, bigotry and avarice. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 14:55 - Apr 21 with 5562 views | jojaca |
| Florida punish Disney on 14:36 - Apr 21 by Professor |
Back on the reliable sources I see.
It’s nothing but bigotry and de Santis’s ambitions for the MAGA bigots. Disney is hardly a left wing organisation out to corrupt. It’s reflecting its customer base which are pretty wealth and educated. Many are gay. Perhaps the governor and his homophobic cronies want to reflect on the 20 million visitors each year to the House of Mouse. Not just supporting Disney but thousands of jobs and businesses.
So-called Christians again supporting hatred, bigotry and avarice. |
Sex eduction and thing like LGBTQ should only be taught in the last year of comp. |  |
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| Florida punish Disney on 15:29 - Apr 21 with 5539 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Florida punish Disney on 14:36 - Apr 21 by Professor |
Back on the reliable sources I see.
It’s nothing but bigotry and de Santis’s ambitions for the MAGA bigots. Disney is hardly a left wing organisation out to corrupt. It’s reflecting its customer base which are pretty wealth and educated. Many are gay. Perhaps the governor and his homophobic cronies want to reflect on the 20 million visitors each year to the House of Mouse. Not just supporting Disney but thousands of jobs and businesses.
So-called Christians again supporting hatred, bigotry and avarice. |
That story is across most news sites, so it has nothing to do with reliable sources as you yet again incorrectly suggest.
We will see whether Disney is really reflecting their customer base won't we? | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 22:21 - Apr 21 with 5473 views | Sirjohnalot |
Some people are gay, others are straight, some kids have a mum and dad, others have none, or one, or 2 of each.
Some people love people of the same sex, others opposite, others both.
Simple way to teach kids that what’s matters most is love, irrespective of who it’s to. If two people love each other, that’s fabulous.
Lesson done. |  | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 23:07 - Apr 21 with 5458 views | Lorax |
| Florida punish Disney on 14:55 - Apr 21 by jojaca |
Sex eduction and thing like LGBTQ should only be taught in the last year of comp. |
My son is in year 8, there is an openly gay girl and an openly gay boy in his year. Of his old friends, from before we moved, there is a boy who has started transgender treatment. They are all 13 years old, the last year of comp will be a bit late for them. | | | |
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| Florida punish Disney on 23:27 - Apr 21 with 5445 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Florida punish Disney on 22:21 - Apr 21 by Sirjohnalot |
Some people are gay, others are straight, some kids have a mum and dad, others have none, or one, or 2 of each.
Some people love people of the same sex, others opposite, others both.
Simple way to teach kids that what’s matters most is love, irrespective of who it’s to. If two people love each other, that’s fabulous.
Lesson done. |
I really can't believe that someone in your position just wrote that.
You do not seem to see the obvious problem that concerns parents of young children being introduced to these concepts at Kindergarten age and above with your "teach kids that what’s matters most is love, irrespective of who it’s to".
The fact that "love" is often expressed as affection & sex it means that those children can easily be targeted by paedophiles where the love is definitely not appropriate but could be made to appear so. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 23:39 - Apr 21 with 5445 views | STID2017 |
| Florida punish Disney on 23:27 - Apr 21 by A_Fans_Dad |
I really can't believe that someone in your position just wrote that.
You do not seem to see the obvious problem that concerns parents of young children being introduced to these concepts at Kindergarten age and above with your "teach kids that what’s matters most is love, irrespective of who it’s to".
The fact that "love" is often expressed as affection & sex it means that those children can easily be targeted by paedophiles where the love is definitely not appropriate but could be made to appear so. |
So what happens when a little girl turns up at school talking about her two Mums ?
Do you ignore the natural confusion of the other children or do you explain it as John has put it across in his post ? |  |
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| Florida punish Disney on 23:44 - Apr 21 with 5440 views | STID2017 |
Considering how much money Florida and Orlando in particular makes from the many tourists attracted there every year by Disney, I cannot understand them butting heads with them.
Disney could easily decide to invest money into a new resort in another more welcoming state and eventually move away from Florida.
This would leave a gaping hole in Florida's tourist economy | |
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| Florida punish Disney on 07:14 - Apr 22 with 5404 views | Scotia |
| Florida punish Disney on 23:27 - Apr 21 by A_Fans_Dad |
I really can't believe that someone in your position just wrote that.
You do not seem to see the obvious problem that concerns parents of young children being introduced to these concepts at Kindergarten age and above with your "teach kids that what’s matters most is love, irrespective of who it’s to".
The fact that "love" is often expressed as affection & sex it means that those children can easily be targeted by paedophiles where the love is definitely not appropriate but could be made to appear so. |
People aren't introduced to those concepts at kindergarten (obvs you just swallow alt right propaganda with the use of that word) age. They are born gay/straight/trans as they are black or white.
How on earth awareness of other sexual preferences makes them more easily targeted by paedophiles I'd love to know.
The idea of not teaching sexual education until a few years after a child could be a parent is one of the daftest things I've heard. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 07:46 - Apr 22 with 5383 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Florida punish Disney on 23:27 - Apr 21 by A_Fans_Dad |
I really can't believe that someone in your position just wrote that.
You do not seem to see the obvious problem that concerns parents of young children being introduced to these concepts at Kindergarten age and above with your "teach kids that what’s matters most is love, irrespective of who it’s to".
The fact that "love" is often expressed as affection & sex it means that those children can easily be targeted by paedophiles where the love is definitely not appropriate but could be made to appear so. |
I didn’t feel I had to corroborate what I said by excluding paedophiles from ‘love is love’. It obviously, I would have thought, it entirely excludes those loathsome people from teaching children that gay, straight, bi, I doesn’t matter.
There is no correlation at all between gay people and child abuse. I’m on the Sex Offences Prosecution panel, so a lot of my work is spent prosecuting people like this and spending time with the children and those who care for them.
Not once has a parent said ‘oh, if only we did not tell them that gay people are just the same as mum and dad.
‘Someone in my position ‘ understands this topic a lot more than most unfortunately as I have to delve into this world and cross examine these people. The overwhelming majority are men offending against girls, there are men who offend against boys. The similarity is that they are sexual perverts who rape children. Gay or straight,
I genuinely hope you are posting simply to be controversial or have misunderstood what I said.
It’s a simple concept. People are born with the sexual preferences. What’s controversial about that ? [Post edited 22 Apr 2022 7:47]
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| Florida punish Disney on 08:51 - Apr 22 with 5352 views | Professor |
| Florida punish Disney on 07:46 - Apr 22 by Sirjohnalot |
I didn’t feel I had to corroborate what I said by excluding paedophiles from ‘love is love’. It obviously, I would have thought, it entirely excludes those loathsome people from teaching children that gay, straight, bi, I doesn’t matter.
There is no correlation at all between gay people and child abuse. I’m on the Sex Offences Prosecution panel, so a lot of my work is spent prosecuting people like this and spending time with the children and those who care for them.
Not once has a parent said ‘oh, if only we did not tell them that gay people are just the same as mum and dad.
‘Someone in my position ‘ understands this topic a lot more than most unfortunately as I have to delve into this world and cross examine these people. The overwhelming majority are men offending against girls, there are men who offend against boys. The similarity is that they are sexual perverts who rape children. Gay or straight,
I genuinely hope you are posting simply to be controversial or have misunderstood what I said.
It’s a simple concept. People are born with the sexual preferences. What’s controversial about that ? [Post edited 22 Apr 2022 7:47]
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Yet this idea of homosexuality is a perversion persist and is propagated by the likes of DeSantis and the evangelical right. It's a low denominator to play to fears and in-bedded bigotry of the brain-washed or poorly educated. The use of conversion therapies to deny people their natural instinct. Most gay people I have met have known they are gay from a young age. Denial of that love is nothing but hatred and bigotry. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 08:55 - Apr 22 with 5342 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Florida punish Disney on 08:51 - Apr 22 by Professor |
Yet this idea of homosexuality is a perversion persist and is propagated by the likes of DeSantis and the evangelical right. It's a low denominator to play to fears and in-bedded bigotry of the brain-washed or poorly educated. The use of conversion therapies to deny people their natural instinct. Most gay people I have met have known they are gay from a young age. Denial of that love is nothing but hatred and bigotry. |
Should go without saying really. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:01 - Apr 22 with 5332 views | pikeypaul |
Predictable response here from the loony lefties.
No wonder the world is in mess it’s in.
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| Florida punish Disney on 09:04 - Apr 22 with 5337 views | Professor |
| Florida punish Disney on 08:55 - Apr 22 by Sirjohnalot |
Should go without saying really. |
Unfortunately it still has to be said.
Disney has in excess of 20 million visitors to Disneyworld each year. Employs around 80,000 directly and probably more indirectly. Average spend per visitor is big, As you will know if you ever visit.
On top of that the residents of Orange and Osceola counties will have to foot the bill for public services currently provided by Disney.
Going to hit the pocket. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:39 - Apr 22 with 5331 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Florida punish Disney on 22:21 - Apr 21 by Sirjohnalot |
Some people are gay, others are straight, some kids have a mum and dad, others have none, or one, or 2 of each.
Some people love people of the same sex, others opposite, others both.
Simple way to teach kids that what’s matters most is love, irrespective of who it’s to. If two people love each other, that’s fabulous.
Lesson done. |
But sexuality has nothing to do with love. I love my best friend but I wouldn’t ever want to shag him.
Think of all the people you have slept with, can you honestly say you were in love with all of them? Sexuality has more to do with attraction or lust, not love. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:46 - Apr 22 with 5320 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:39 - Apr 22 by Flynnidine_Zidownes |
But sexuality has nothing to do with love. I love my best friend but I wouldn’t ever want to shag him.
Think of all the people you have slept with, can you honestly say you were in love with all of them? Sexuality has more to do with attraction or lust, not love. |
Very fair point and that can be explored at a later age but the initial point I think was about young kids and what they should be taught.
All I was saying is that there’s nothing wrong with explaining on a basic level about how people are attracted to different genders. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:48 - Apr 22 with 5321 views | onehunglow |
I returned to posting with a proviso not to comment on anything religious. I'm buggered now as someone else has brought it up.
How religion is rammed into kids from an early age,how bigotry stems from that and how it affects other I will leave others to offer comments. Homosexuality clearly seen as a perversion that should lead to death . Its all in the Bible,in Leviticus. We in Wales were imbued in this pre puberty.
Not only that but we have many who seek to proselytise. | |
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| Florida punish Disney on 09:59 - Apr 22 with 5310 views | Professor |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:01 - Apr 22 by pikeypaul |
Predictable response here from the loony lefties.
No wonder the world is in mess it’s in.
🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 |
Predictable response from a bigot too. Nothing to do with left or right.
Everything to do with humanity. Do you not think there are homosexuals or bisexuals on the right?
Not least the deputy speaker of HoC. | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 10:02 - Apr 22 with 5302 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:59 - Apr 22 by Professor |
Predictable response from a bigot too. Nothing to do with left or right.
Everything to do with humanity. Do you not think there are homosexuals or bisexuals on the right?
Not least the deputy speaker of HoC. |
Have not seen it. Ignore function well recommended [Post edited 22 Apr 2022 10:03]
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| Florida punish Disney on 10:39 - Apr 22 with 5271 views | Gwyn737 |
As always, lots of hyperbole on this subject about young children being 'taught' about LGBT (whatever that means).
In primary schools (in England) only the following is stautory.
Pupils should know:
- that families are important for children growing up because they can give love, security and stability
-the characteristics of healthy family life, commitment to each other, including in times of difficulty, protection and care for children and other family members, the importance of spending time together and sharing each other’s lives
-that others’ families, either in school or in the wider world, sometimes look different from their family, but that they should respect those differences and know that other children’s families are also characterised by love and care
-that stable, caring relationships, which may be of different types, are at the heart of happy families, and are important for children’s security as they grow up
-that marriage represents a formal and legally recognised commitment of two people to each other which is intended to be lifelong
-how to recognise if family relationships are making them feel unhappy or unsafe, and how to seek help or advice from others if needed
Any deviation from this has to be done in consultation with the parent body. The curriculum has to be posted on the school website. Parents have the right to withdraw their children.
Doesn't seem too controversial to me... | | | |
| Florida punish Disney on 10:44 - Apr 22 with 5268 views | majorraglan |
| Florida punish Disney on 14:55 - Apr 21 by jojaca |
Sex eduction and thing like LGBTQ should only be taught in the last year of comp. |
It’s much too late then, it needs to start off much earlier than that. We’re in the 21st century, kids can get access to all sorts of information on the internet, it’s important sex education is delivered responsibly. If kids aren’t getting the education in school or at home, they’ll just go on line and who knows what they’ll end up reading.
I know a family who’s daughter began having periods just after her 10th birthday, leaving education until the last year of comprehensive school would be way too late. [Post edited 22 Apr 2022 10:52]
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| Florida punish Disney on 10:45 - Apr 22 with 5268 views | Scotia |
| Florida punish Disney on 09:01 - Apr 22 by pikeypaul |
Predictable response here from the loony lefties.
No wonder the world is in mess it’s in.
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I'd suggest that religion that these bigoted opinions stem from is far more responsible for the mess the world is in than awareness of homosexuality. | | | |
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