| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 17:27 - Jul 30 with 4744 views | davman |
Barnsley 2nd, WBA 13th, Blackburn 23rd and Preston 22nd? Have I missed something? |  |
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| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 17:52 - Jul 30 with 4674 views | Northernr |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 17:27 - Jul 30 by davman |
Barnsley 2nd, WBA 13th, Blackburn 23rd and Preston 22nd? Have I missed something? |
Blackburn and PNE are in a state.
I fancy West Brom the least of the relegated teams, but not 13th bad.
I quite fancy Barnsley again, but not second. |  | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 18:05 - Jul 30 with 4627 views | daveB |
Haven't Barnsley lost a few players from last year. Mowatt, that American Forward and Chaplin all gone |  | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 18:21 - Jul 30 with 4569 views | rsonist |
I'd considered starting a season predictions thread but apart from a few teams to keep an eye on in both directions there's still too much up in the air everywhere you look to feel too confident about anything.
Mentioned it on the Stef thread but it's so mad it's only a week to go. We're one of maybe four sides who are kicking off for real and don't effectively still have a two month pre-season ahead of us. Fair bit of unexpected pressure to it, honestly.
Gab's gone early with a typically enthusiastic effort (bless him forever) but reading it only vindicates that feeling. By the end of the transfer window it could all be different, and that would still be only on paper |  | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 18:27 - Jul 30 with 4531 views | rsonist |
Anyway for what it's worth:
I fancy West Brom the most of the relegated teams. Gab's eyebrow raising 13th is based on the assumption Ismael's Barnsleyball doesn't fit, but all he has to do is tweak it. (Gab gives Barnsley's new coach the benefit of the doubt of versatility but not Ismael despite similar evidence in Austria). They might not fly out the traps but should come together by the end I think.
Fulham could be anything. Silva has question marks over him, Cairney's injured, Mitro's a lazy fck, la la la. Sheff Utd a little too quiet, and it doesn't feel like confidence - Wilder casts a long shadow there.
Barnsley seems a big leap of faith on no evidence. Got carried away there I think. Their signings look like maybe preparing for Woodrow to go, which would be a loss.
Forest look in big trouble to me. They've shed the deadwood, but got nothing for it to replace it yet. Worrall gets injured, Lolley will never be the same with his condition, the sure things are few and far between. They're slow, they're ponderous. Brennan Johnson would have to be EFL POTY to do all the creative work needed there - as it stands.
Mick at Cardiff is one of the select few managers born to defy xG. He knows what he's doing, which is more than most.
Luton have done all the clever girl signings, maybe it will work out. The even bigger dark horses I'll argue are Huddersfield - they're just a real mystery box, though seemingly with purpose, and we've seen ourselves when they put it together they can be quite good. The kid Levi Colville on loan from Chelsea has a Ben White/Reece James season in him according to some.
Blackpool look smart. Peterborough should be okay this season but I wouldn't put it past Yung Fergie to mess things up.
Preston, Blackburn are stagnant indeed but I don't know if they're THAT stagnant. "Frankie McAvoy" (if you say so) will probably be first to go once someone better is free. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 18:35 - Jul 30 with 4492 views | rsonist |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 18:05 - Jul 30 by daveB |
Haven't Barnsley lost a few players from last year. Mowatt, that American Forward and Chaplin all gone |
Mowatt, it is argued there, has a successor in waiting in Callum Styles. They signed another big lump from Belgium to replace the septic (but will they still play that way?). Chaplin was never that good, supposedly. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 18:40 - Jul 30 with 4455 views | rsonist |
Also King Warnock's Boro... I really can't tell. But I'm surprised GS doesn't mention the signing of Matt Crooks from Rotherham, cos that looked the best one to me (if Payero doesn't happen to be world class). | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:16 - Jul 30 with 4335 views | daveB |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 18:27 - Jul 30 by rsonist |
Anyway for what it's worth:
I fancy West Brom the most of the relegated teams. Gab's eyebrow raising 13th is based on the assumption Ismael's Barnsleyball doesn't fit, but all he has to do is tweak it. (Gab gives Barnsley's new coach the benefit of the doubt of versatility but not Ismael despite similar evidence in Austria). They might not fly out the traps but should come together by the end I think.
Fulham could be anything. Silva has question marks over him, Cairney's injured, Mitro's a lazy fck, la la la. Sheff Utd a little too quiet, and it doesn't feel like confidence - Wilder casts a long shadow there.
Barnsley seems a big leap of faith on no evidence. Got carried away there I think. Their signings look like maybe preparing for Woodrow to go, which would be a loss.
Forest look in big trouble to me. They've shed the deadwood, but got nothing for it to replace it yet. Worrall gets injured, Lolley will never be the same with his condition, the sure things are few and far between. They're slow, they're ponderous. Brennan Johnson would have to be EFL POTY to do all the creative work needed there - as it stands.
Mick at Cardiff is one of the select few managers born to defy xG. He knows what he's doing, which is more than most.
Luton have done all the clever girl signings, maybe it will work out. The even bigger dark horses I'll argue are Huddersfield - they're just a real mystery box, though seemingly with purpose, and we've seen ourselves when they put it together they can be quite good. The kid Levi Colville on loan from Chelsea has a Ben White/Reece James season in him according to some.
Blackpool look smart. Peterborough should be okay this season but I wouldn't put it past Yung Fergie to mess things up.
Preston, Blackburn are stagnant indeed but I don't know if they're THAT stagnant. "Frankie McAvoy" (if you say so) will probably be first to go once someone better is free. |
Interesting stuff. I have to admit I've not followed what other teams have done so am enjoying reading this sort of stuff and Gabriels preview as well.
Based on nothing more than what I saw last season I think Forest will do quite well due to the manager and I had Huddersfield to go down. | | | |
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| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:17 - Jul 30 with 4335 views | Northernr |
TBF to him they're impossible to put together. I must have done 60-70 hours on ours already and I still fancy 15 teams to go down and maybe 3 to do alright. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:21 - Jul 30 with 4318 views | Northernr |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:16 - Jul 30 by daveB |
Interesting stuff. I have to admit I've not followed what other teams have done so am enjoying reading this sort of stuff and Gabriels preview as well.
Based on nothing more than what I saw last season I think Forest will do quite well due to the manager and I had Huddersfield to go down. |
I've also got Huddersfield to struggle. Their recruitment, particularly at the back, doesn't match the manager and the ethos. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:30 - Jul 30 with 4283 views | stevec |
It’s difficult to make a case for any team throughout the EFL, feels like there’s a real levelling off with the combo of FFP and Covid on finances.
Still heavily stacked in favour of Fulham, Sheffield and WBA, none of which spent a fortune so are probably set up far stronger than the rest of us. Watford got 90 plus points without getting out of second gear last season.
Most bookies seem to have us down for mid table, only this guy and sporting index seeing us as top six but sporting index are pretty good at this stuff. |  | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:31 - Jul 30 with 4279 views | davman |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 17:52 - Jul 30 by Northernr |
Blackburn and PNE are in a state.
I fancy West Brom the least of the relegated teams, but not 13th bad.
I quite fancy Barnsley again, but not second. |
But have Blackburn lost many players? Armstrong is still there isn't he and Gallagher, Brereton, Dack are still around. Mowbray hasn't failed often in his career. Are they really that bad?
Preston maybe; they have been declining for a little while, but I just can't see WBA and Blackburn being that bad. Maybe we should have a laugh and get a thread going with Predictions for the final standings - I'll go first (any no copying now, Clive).
1. Fulham
2. WBA
3. QPR (Its.The. Hope. That. Kills)
4. Bournemouth
5. Sheff U
6. Stoke
7. Luton
8. Forest's cast of thousands
9. Cardiff
10. Swansea
11. Barnsley
12. Hull
13. Boro
14. Millwall
15. Reading
16. Birmingham
17. Blackburn
18. Bristol C
19. Preston
20. Huddersfield T
21. Blackpool
22. Coventry C
23. Peterborough
24. Derby | |
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| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:32 - Jul 30 with 4271 views | DavieQPR |
He did tip Derby for the Playoffs last year. so a lot is guesswork. |  | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 20:04 - Jul 30 with 4181 views | CiderwithRsie |
"CEO and realist Lee Hoos"
Great job title. |  | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 20:12 - Jul 30 with 4146 views | rsonist |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:21 - Jul 30 by Northernr |
I've also got Huddersfield to struggle. Their recruitment, particularly at the back, doesn't match the manager and the ethos. |
Are you seeing a Leistner situation here with Pearson? They've definitely gone for his leadership qualities more than anything. Turton and Ruffels seem game though, and Colwill will be the fancy CB.
Rhodes, yeah I dunno. Bielsa went through a few like that hoping to be more clinical but chucked them all in the end. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 20:18 - Jul 30 with 4137 views | rsonist |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:31 - Jul 30 by davman |
But have Blackburn lost many players? Armstrong is still there isn't he and Gallagher, Brereton, Dack are still around. Mowbray hasn't failed often in his career. Are they really that bad?
Preston maybe; they have been declining for a little while, but I just can't see WBA and Blackburn being that bad. Maybe we should have a laugh and get a thread going with Predictions for the final standings - I'll go first (any no copying now, Clive).
1. Fulham
2. WBA
3. QPR (Its.The. Hope. That. Kills)
4. Bournemouth
5. Sheff U
6. Stoke
7. Luton
8. Forest's cast of thousands
9. Cardiff
10. Swansea
11. Barnsley
12. Hull
13. Boro
14. Millwall
15. Reading
16. Birmingham
17. Blackburn
18. Bristol C
19. Preston
20. Huddersfield T
21. Blackpool
22. Coventry C
23. Peterborough
24. Derby |
Check Blackburn's second half of the season though, even with Armstrong and some high-profile loans not since replaced. Familiar Mogga malaise. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 20:28 - Jul 30 with 4087 views | Tonto |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 19:32 - Jul 30 by DavieQPR |
He did tip Derby for the Playoffs last year. so a lot is guesswork. |
I think most of us agree Derby will be last unless they get new owners quickly.
The rest of the Championship is always a lottery, but the parachute payments should give the relegated clubs a bigger advantage than usual. So they should be favourites to return lroived they do t cock it up. Then again all 3 have new or newish managers. |  |
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| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 20:53 - Jul 30 with 4008 views | Myke |
Interesting observation by MW in his interview with Clive is that the three promoted teams are used to winning which is an advantage. Obviously the three relegated teams have a massive financial advantage. But apart from Derby being in a complete mess this could go any way. I will stick my neck out for us though and say 5th. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 20:56 - Jul 30 with 3995 views | rsonist |
We're at 51mins.
01 Fulham
02 West Brom
03 Sheff Utd
04 Bournemouth
05 Middlesbrough
06 QPR
07 Millwall
08 Luton
09 Stoke
10 Cardiff
11 Nottm Forest
12 Barnsley
13 Birmingham
14 Hull
15 Blackburn
16 Coventry
17 Peterborough
18 Blackpool
19 Bristol City
20 Preston
21 Swansea
22 Reading
23 Huddersfield
24 Derby | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 21:07 - Jul 30 with 3948 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
The big question is who is going to be the best side everyone has played all season now Spartak Hounslow are no longer slumming it with the plebs. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 23:54 - Jul 30 with 3650 views | distortR |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 20:12 - Jul 30 by rsonist |
Are you seeing a Leistner situation here with Pearson? They've definitely gone for his leadership qualities more than anything. Turton and Ruffels seem game though, and Colwill will be the fancy CB.
Rhodes, yeah I dunno. Bielsa went through a few like that hoping to be more clinical but chucked them all in the end. |
i've said it before, we should have signed Ruffels, purely so we could have had Ruffels of the Rangers. | | | |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 10:05 - Jul 31 with 3354 views | LazyFan |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 21:07 - Jul 30 by Wegerles_Stairs |
The big question is who is going to be the best side everyone has played all season now Spartak Hounslow are no longer slumming it with the plebs. |
It's still them as they get to play these cup games against EFL teams see. |  |
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| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 10:35 - Jul 31 with 3269 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Gabriel Sutton - Championship Predictions. on 10:05 - Jul 31 by LazyFan |
It's still them as they get to play these cup games against EFL teams see. |
Yes In fact all they've done is extend their reach. West Ham today then Valencia next week. Arsenal after that...
Can anyone hazard a guess who is the best team our B team will face this season?  |  |
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