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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:49 - May 27 by max936
I had my 2nd Jab today, feeling great now, looking forward to hopefully more freedom now, I recommend everyone to have it, adverse reactions are rare. the reward outweighs the risk for me.
I hope there is more freedom!
I'm not normally pessimistic, but with regards to covid, I really am.
They are quick enough to lockdown our society once the cases, R number rises..
Been virtually nothing for weeks, but let's 'be cautious'..
I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see us getting back to normality for a long time, even if everybody had the vax, they would come up with a new variant, to lock us down again.
libera nos a malo
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 01:38 - May 28 with 1183 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:43 - May 26 by Ajack_Kerouac
I see there is a growing number of scientists who believe that the virus originated in a lab in Wuhan. The left wing media are starting to take this seriously and even Fauci admitted that this was possible.
Yet over the past year, anyone who put forward this theory and attempted to back this theory up with facts to make an argument was dismissed as a conspiracy theorist and censored.
It is also becoming increasingly obvious that Fauci knew that this was a possibility at the outset, he was best placed to know it was possible/likely, and yet did not make this known to the Trump administration.
"A number of scientists", "people are saying" etc... the comments of liars using loose language to fool the gullible into believing that there is genuine doubt from a sizable portion of the subject(object) group.
There are also a good number of commentators on this board (majority) that do not realise that there are two BSL's in Wuhan and they are close to each other...The Institute of Virology and the Chinese CDC.
Throughout the pandemic commentry on either has been conflated and amplified.
Additionally it is funny that the idiots believe that there was an accidental (or maybe, intentional) release from the Institute of Virology around October/November and yet the central Government only kicked in measures at the end of January after ham-fisted actions from the Wuhan regional authorities... BSL's are stringently regulated nationally and are a source of great pride. China loves showing the world its prowess and punishes those who fail.
As to your guff on Fauci and known possibilities... his position would have been based upon PROBABILITIES and not low range possibilities.
Your posts versus the Prof's posts demonstrate the addage "that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 08:00 - May 28 with 1142 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 01:38 - May 28 by DJack
"A number of scientists", "people are saying" etc... the comments of liars using loose language to fool the gullible into believing that there is genuine doubt from a sizable portion of the subject(object) group.
There are also a good number of commentators on this board (majority) that do not realise that there are two BSL's in Wuhan and they are close to each other...The Institute of Virology and the Chinese CDC.
Throughout the pandemic commentry on either has been conflated and amplified.
Additionally it is funny that the idiots believe that there was an accidental (or maybe, intentional) release from the Institute of Virology around October/November and yet the central Government only kicked in measures at the end of January after ham-fisted actions from the Wuhan regional authorities... BSL's are stringently regulated nationally and are a source of great pride. China loves showing the world its prowess and punishes those who fail.
As to your guff on Fauci and known possibilities... his position would have been based upon PROBABILITIES and not low range possibilities.
Your posts versus the Prof's posts demonstrate the addage "that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing".
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 08:39 - May 28 with 1138 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 08:39 - May 28 by Scotia
He's a crank. I think he's banned from YouTube now?
It's simple really the more people who don't get the vaccine the longer we live under restrictions.
The people who don't get the vaccine are more likely to die.
Why anyone believes the tiny minority of discredited anti vaxxers rather than 99.9% of scientists and Dr's is beyond me.
YouTube is your measure?
Last year people who put forward lab leak as the origin of Covid-19 were censored on Social media. Now?
We all know, deep down, that the Democrats stole that last election...plenty of evidence...yet people who say so on Social media are censored too.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 09:18 - May 28 with 1127 views
Facebook took down posts that mentioned that the virus may have originated in a lab, now they have changed their mind and are allowing posts of this nature. If anyone feels that they are not being manipulated by large media organisations and information is not withheld what more evidence do you need?
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 09:18 - May 28 by JACKMANANDBOY
Facebook took down posts that mentioned that the virus may have originated in a lab, now they have changed their mind and are allowing posts of this nature. If anyone feels that they are not being manipulated by large media organisations and information is not withheld what more evidence do you need?
I am sure they do not behave in such a naive manner in their own lives.
Is the reluctance to acknowledge the truth because people would rather pretend it isn't happening...as to recognise what is happening in front of their face would mean that they would have to respond in some meaningful way which would personally cost them?
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 09:41 - May 28 with 1121 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 09:29 - May 28 by Ajack_Kerouac
I am sure they do not behave in such a naive manner in their own lives.
Is the reluctance to acknowledge the truth because people would rather pretend it isn't happening...as to recognise what is happening in front of their face would mean that they would have to respond in some meaningful way which would personally cost them?
The reall issue here is that burying information generates mistrust when it later emerges, better for everyone to publish and have the debate.
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 09:41 - May 28 by JACKMANANDBOY
The reall issue here is that burying information generates mistrust when it later emerges, better for everyone to publish and have the debate.
I do not trust anyone who is not for free speech. A full, frank, open debate...no ifs or buts. When I see people who want to censor I instantly think; "What are they trying to hide/suppress?"
....and there is an awful lot of censorship going on at the moment, and we all know which side it is coming from and what tools they use.
I now use; -'Rumble' to watch videos. and - 'Brave' as my browser.
still haven't found a good alternative to 'Facebook' though. Not that I put anything personal on Facebook or engage in debate. It is just useful tool for business.
Never did use Tw*tter.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 16:47 - May 28 with 1076 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:40 - May 28 by Scotia
Yes. It is simple.
The vaccine is safer than getting covid across the vast majority of the population.
Anyone not having the vaccine based on that is more likely to die and kill other people.
When Trump championed a vaccine before the end of the year (in the summer of 2020), many leading Democrats said they would not trust a vaccine pushed through at speed by the Trump administration and would not take it. One of these leading Democrats is the current Vice President of the United States.
They weren’t censored by YouTube, Facebook, Twitter etc. though. Why do you think that is? ðŸ˜
Now of course Biden, the current criminals who pass as an administration and their supporters, try to take credit for that very same vaccine. I hate liars. Always have.
"It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid" - "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - "The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it"
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 11:19 - May 29 with 989 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 16:46 - May 29 by Scotia
That is evidence. Or would you rather I link the outcomes of the vaccine trials? It's not my opinion that they work.
I don't need to prove that people are gullible enough to believe nonsense on the Internet do I?
You are so clueless you don't even know what I was asking evidence for.
Provide evidence that anyone has actually been killed by nonsense on the internet. You know you can't because nobody knows for sure. It is purely conjecture ie opinion on your part
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 18:32 - May 29 with 950 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 17:12 - May 29 by A_Fans_Dad
You are so clueless you don't even know what I was asking evidence for.
Provide evidence that anyone has actually been killed by nonsense on the internet. You know you can't because nobody knows for sure. It is purely conjecture ie opinion on your part
That is just stupid. Really stupid.
There are two kinds of people in the world, those that can extrapolate information from incomplete data and a fans dad.
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:34 - May 29 with 943 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 19:34 - May 29 by A_Fans_Dad
Exactly you have NO EVIDENCE
OK.
So there are three points here that I could evidence or you dispute.
1. That the covid vaccines save lives. 2. There is no "information" on YouTube advising people not to take the vaccine. 3. If there is any anti vaccination nonsense on YouTube very few people have paid any attention to it.
Please furnish this thread with evidence disputing these points because I'm pretty sure you've provided plenty to the contrary already.
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:46 - May 29 with 922 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:02 - May 29 by Scotia
OK.
So there are three points here that I could evidence or you dispute.
1. That the covid vaccines save lives. 2. There is no "information" on YouTube advising people not to take the vaccine. 3. If there is any anti vaccination nonsense on YouTube very few people have paid any attention to it.
Please furnish this thread with evidence disputing these points because I'm pretty sure you've provided plenty to the contrary already.
You have absolutely no proof that anybody who has died, especially older people saw it on youtube. They could have read it in the Sun, Mirror or Daily Mail, watched it on the BBC, ITV or Sky news, or heard it down the pub. You have no Evidence that it was seen on any part of the Internet, or that they didn't see or read it anywhere and just didn't want the Vaccine.
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:58 - May 29 with 909 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 20:46 - May 29 by A_Fans_Dad
You have absolutely no proof that anybody who has died, especially older people saw it on youtube. They could have read it in the Sun, Mirror or Daily Mail, watched it on the BBC, ITV or Sky news, or heard it down the pub. You have no Evidence that it was seen on any part of the Internet, or that they didn't see or read it anywhere and just didn't want the Vaccine.
Dear me. See my post of 18:32.
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:55 - May 29 with 906 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 21:58 - May 29 by Scotia
Dear me. See my post of 18:32.
Show me proof, where are the results of the survey of those that died asking them why they didn't have the vaccine? You just spout what you belive without one shred of actual evidence. If you have it then show it.
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 23:03 - May 29 with 900 views
Pandemic my bloody arse, it's a pandemic of stats and models!! Indian variant cases rising, yeah let's lock down forever,..
Perhaps I'm fortunate enough to have skipped losing anyone I know, but that seems the case for everyone I know as well, next Fuc**ng slide please that's all it seems STATS
libera nos a malo
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Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 23:16 - May 29 with 886 views
Most reliable information.Covid-19 on 22:55 - May 29 by A_Fans_Dad
Show me proof, where are the results of the survey of those that died asking them why they didn't have the vaccine? You just spout what you belive without one shred of actual evidence. If you have it then show it.
I’m pretty sure there’s no point in surveying people who’ve died.
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