Enough is enough 12:20 - Apr 30 with 8087 views | Professor | I was one of those who complained to Keith, not about a specific post but due too the consistent posting of conspiracy theories and material which is sailing very close to the wind in terms of extreme right wing politics. I would equally complain if this were extreme left-wing promoting violence, anti-semitism etc. I am sick of misogyny, xenophobia, thinly veiled racism and name calling. There is a clear right-wing cabal, who circle with material of some legitimate and some dubious sources-including some downright lies. We are all entitled to an opinion, but it clearly laughable to suggest there is a left-wing cabal. There are a few 'true' left wingers on here with strong convictions in their beliefs, but most of are us sit in a spectrum between the politics of Thatcherism and moderate socialism. Yet to express this view makes one a left, marxist, bullshitter and the other names tossed my way in recent months. Funny really as someone who believes in private enterprise and capitalism, albeit tempered with equality of opportunity. I am a Labour Party member, though left for a period under Corbyn's leadership as I considered this beyond my line of acceptability-so, yes I guess I site somewhere around the Blair/Brown degree of 'socialism'-or a Red Tory. I support the police, but equally will criticise where they blunder. That's how we can help improve policing. I'm not particularly 'woke' but dislike racism, homophobia and sexism. I equally have issues with over use of positive discrimination. Like all of us I have contradictions. Life is too short and precious to carry on arguing with those so far down a rabbit hole that the sunlight of humanity no longer reaches them. So thanks to those who have made my laugh, think and open up new discoveries-not exhaustively but Cattulus, Scotia, the late Fiery Jack, Gwyn, Chad, Joe Bradshaw, Lisa and Lohengrin-it's been a pleasure. Pikey-keep it up, your posts make me smile and Felixtowe-thanks for your commitment to updating the vaccine data. Keith-good luck and thanks for your work on here the last year. As Bugs Bunny says "That's all folks" | | | | |
Enough is enough on 18:42 - Apr 30 with 1259 views | Gwyn737 |
Enough is enough on 17:28 - Apr 30 by Kerouac | Re: the prof’s views on certain subjects being supposedly untouchable because of his expertise and experience All I will say is how many of you criticising American Police officers have served as a Police Officer? Does OneHungLow get given the same reverence? Think. |
Not his views on certain subjects, his knowledge of epidemiology. In the same way I would go to a doctor for medical advice rather than a homeopathist. Some of the antivax stuff people spread borders on the criminal. | | | |
Enough is enough on 18:56 - Apr 30 with 1232 views | Treforys_Jack |
Enough is enough on 18:42 - Apr 30 by Gwyn737 | Not his views on certain subjects, his knowledge of epidemiology. In the same way I would go to a doctor for medical advice rather than a homeopathist. Some of the antivax stuff people spread borders on the criminal. |
It is at best irresponsible and at worst criminal, no doubt about that in my mind. | | | |
Enough is enough on 19:29 - Apr 30 with 1210 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Enough is enough on 18:42 - Apr 30 by Gwyn737 | Not his views on certain subjects, his knowledge of epidemiology. In the same way I would go to a doctor for medical advice rather than a homeopathist. Some of the antivax stuff people spread borders on the criminal. |
And when he directly contradicts many Doctors working in the field treating COVID patients and saving their lives? | | | |
Enough is enough on 19:40 - Apr 30 with 1197 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Enough is enough on 17:18 - Apr 30 by Catullus | I am 100% with you here Builthy, don't do it Prof, don't let them get you down. I just put them on ignore for a while. I've been called a lefty, a righty and lots of nasty stuff besides but it improved once Keith tookover. I will agree that a "new" poster started up a load of threads on some real right wing nonsense recently but like I said, ignore! |
Can you clsrify your statement please? You said " will agree that a "new" poster started up a load of threads on some real right wing nonsense " Perhaps you can elucidate which you consider "right wing" and why and which you don't? | | | |
Enough is enough on 19:44 - Apr 30 with 1197 views | Gwyn737 |
Enough is enough on 19:29 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad | And when he directly contradicts many Doctors working in the field treating COVID patients and saving their lives? |
When Prof thought you were right he agreed with you. He’s shown no bias and stuck to the science. Do you think you’ve been wrong about anything COVID related or have you been right about everything? | | | |
Enough is enough on 19:47 - Apr 30 with 1193 views | lifelong |
Enough is enough on 13:49 - Apr 30 by onehunglow | I am disappointed that Paul ha posted in this way. It is wildly inaccurate and I worry a to where this site is going right now. I got all manner of filth aimed at me yesterday. A vindictive,personal attack by garyjack backed up by lifelonglifey. It is the old site reincarnated alright. How can anyone be a member of the Labour party yet be objective about what is right wing or not. Is right wing evil and if so who says so? The only cabal i left wing and it is obvious.It is so because that which pertains to socialism will always be pre eminent on here.Those not having that are hammered,like Kerouac who now seems to be the Devil . Winston' use of specimen is typical of a deeply cynical man with a history of arrogant bile. He aims to carry on the old agenda of the previous ite which is why he refers to me as perchy.You can be guaranteed that this is sinister . And Gary. You could always have rung me if so indignant over a text you interpreted spectacularly wrong. Enough really is enough |
A vindictive personal attack? you give it out every day you are on here, you attempt to ruin every forum you post on but when someone challenges you with a reply you just can’t take it...grow the feck up son. | | | |
Enough is enough on 19:50 - Apr 30 with 1184 views | onehunglow |
Enough is enough on 16:30 - Apr 30 by Treforys_Jack | "As long as they are winning" grow up man, its a forum with faceless strangers for the most part. There is no winning or losing. |
Now that is not quite true is it? Why are some posters followed for one reason alone and that is to reinforce contempt and hate. It is often said someone is "owned" ,been schooled and simply smashed by a poster,normally one of a cabal Paul Prof talks about. Why are people like garyjack bringing up events from SEVEN years ago.Winston longer. It is ALL about winning and NOT losing face My comments of historical allegations of sexual assault saw virtual meltdown and I was banned by the mob . Today,that which I opined is utterly vindicated and nobody has the grace to admit it and they got it wrong and I was right. | |
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Enough is enough on 20:07 - Apr 30 with 1169 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Enough is enough on 19:44 - Apr 30 by Gwyn737 | When Prof thought you were right he agreed with you. He’s shown no bias and stuck to the science. Do you think you’ve been wrong about anything COVID related or have you been right about everything? |
I am neither right or wrong. Either the people I quote are right or wrong, but I may choose the wrong sources, only time will tell if that is true. But over medical intervention prof called good front line doctors derogatory names because he would not accept their findings. What kind of professional does that? Whenever certain people do not like the data, which they cannot refute with their own data they always without fail attack the source by whatever means possible. When that fails they attack the person posting with invectives. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Enough is enough on 20:15 - Apr 30 with 1145 views | onehunglow |
Enough is enough on 20:07 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad | I am neither right or wrong. Either the people I quote are right or wrong, but I may choose the wrong sources, only time will tell if that is true. But over medical intervention prof called good front line doctors derogatory names because he would not accept their findings. What kind of professional does that? Whenever certain people do not like the data, which they cannot refute with their own data they always without fail attack the source by whatever means possible. When that fails they attack the person posting with invectives. |
AFD.We have,if I remember crossed swords many times;I d be surprised if we havent as Ive crossed swords with most. Its how you exchange. I try to keep to title unless I get personal crap and I bit back.I alway will so long as I have breath in my body.Nobody but nobody rips me one without a challenge. I just wish I could corner people in person.Nobody has ever insulted me to my face. On here,post the "wrong" things,criticise the "wrong" player, slag off a labour politician and you get a shytstorm.Criticising posh,scum Tories is clearly the thing to do on you.You will get loads of "friends". Except they aren't. This site was good and the exchanges were lively but kept tidy.The lalst few days,we have seen matters go down the sewer.Lifelong is still at it. And is allowed to;even encouraged. Some notorious PS posters have reappeared and love and mercy it aint. Get it back As Keith says,it's a short life. | |
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Enough is enough on 20:22 - Apr 30 with 1137 views | Catullus |
Enough is enough on 19:40 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad | Can you clsrify your statement please? You said " will agree that a "new" poster started up a load of threads on some real right wing nonsense " Perhaps you can elucidate which you consider "right wing" and why and which you don't? |
A "new poster" started up threads promoting conspiracy theories that had been done to death on here. The subject was the US election being fixed....I think you agreed with it didn't you? Apart from already being done to death on here it was obvious nonsense too, every challenge was kicked iut by US courts for various valid legal reasons. You know that though. Please don't bother going into it because I will not follow up, it's pointless. Right wing...Trump. Left wing...Corbyn. simple. Both are as bad as each other. | |
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Enough is enough on 20:28 - Apr 30 with 1120 views | onehunglow |
Enough is enough on 18:08 - Apr 30 by Treforys_Jack | Never criticised American police officers as they seem to be in a no win situation especially when every disturbance or stop they attend has the potential to involve firearms. I have no love for the US of A and consider them very dangerous. No comment on OHL as I have him on ignore and you can draw your own conclusions on the reasons. |
But what I post is relayed back to you. You find the truth uncomfortable I speak it. | |
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Enough is enough on 20:33 - Apr 30 with 1109 views | Kilkennyjack |
Enough is enough on 16:27 - Apr 30 by KeithHaynes | All,I can say to the prof is stick to the football forum, it’s ok in the main. Your posts are from an experienced pint of view regards many things, to lose that input would be a great shame. |
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Enough is enough on 20:53 - Apr 30 with 1084 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Enough is enough on 20:22 - Apr 30 by Catullus | A "new poster" started up threads promoting conspiracy theories that had been done to death on here. The subject was the US election being fixed....I think you agreed with it didn't you? Apart from already being done to death on here it was obvious nonsense too, every challenge was kicked iut by US courts for various valid legal reasons. You know that though. Please don't bother going into it because I will not follow up, it's pointless. Right wing...Trump. Left wing...Corbyn. simple. Both are as bad as each other. |
It was not the US election being fixed. It was a Forensic Audit of the voting in Arizona going on right now. If you can't see the difference it is you who has a problem. Because it is neither left or right wing, it is the Forensic Audit to prove that the voting was either legal or illegal. This is necessary to prevent the same kind of uncertaintity in the future. | | | |
Enough is enough on 20:56 - Apr 30 with 1081 views | builthjack |
Enough is enough on 17:18 - Apr 30 by Catullus | I am 100% with you here Builthy, don't do it Prof, don't let them get you down. I just put them on ignore for a while. I've been called a lefty, a righty and lots of nasty stuff besides but it improved once Keith tookover. I will agree that a "new" poster started up a load of threads on some real right wing nonsense recently but like I said, ignore! |
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Enough is enough on 21:11 - Apr 30 with 1053 views | Catullus |
Enough is enough on 20:53 - Apr 30 by A_Fans_Dad | It was not the US election being fixed. It was a Forensic Audit of the voting in Arizona going on right now. If you can't see the difference it is you who has a problem. Because it is neither left or right wing, it is the Forensic Audit to prove that the voting was either legal or illegal. This is necessary to prevent the same kind of uncertaintity in the future. |
The whole point of it was to challenge the vote yes, to try and prove it was not a legal election or in other words, fixed somehow. It wasn't to prove the vote legal and you know that, it was entirely about discrediting it. US politics was done on here, we had all this but someone decided to dredge it all up again, WHY? Who realy cares now? They are not going to overturn the election, Biden is and will remain POTUS for better or for worse. Right, you got me, I answered, I won't again. You conspiracy theorists need your own section. | |
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Enough is enough on 21:20 - Apr 30 with 1009 views | Joe_bradshaw | Amen to that. Trying to convince someone of a different political persuasion to change to your point of view on an Internet forum is the ultimate exercise in futility. | |
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Enough is enough on 21:20 - Apr 30 with 1003 views | Ajack_Kerouac |
Enough is enough on 21:11 - Apr 30 by Catullus | The whole point of it was to challenge the vote yes, to try and prove it was not a legal election or in other words, fixed somehow. It wasn't to prove the vote legal and you know that, it was entirely about discrediting it. US politics was done on here, we had all this but someone decided to dredge it all up again, WHY? Who realy cares now? They are not going to overturn the election, Biden is and will remain POTUS for better or for worse. Right, you got me, I answered, I won't again. You conspiracy theorists need your own section. |
You are very confused aren't you. They are auditing the results to find out whether there is any evidence of any fraud...because people, people with functioning brains that is, have serious doubts...if there is no evidence of fraud it validates the election result doesn't it? ...and if they find that cheating took place, have the evidence of this, the proof, and present it for scrutiny? Well then they will have proved that the result was not legal won't they? Or in your world does it not matter if they find proof of fraud? Should everyone just carry on as if nothing ever happened? How would you feel if your vote was scrubbed out and your next door neighbour is allowed to cheat the system and enjoy 2 votes? That would be ok would it? | |
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Enough is enough on 21:34 - Apr 30 with 974 views | Catullus |
Enough is enough on 21:20 - Apr 30 by Joe_bradshaw | Amen to that. Trying to convince someone of a different political persuasion to change to your point of view on an Internet forum is the ultimate exercise in futility. |
Thing is Joe, my political opinion has changed, it has evovled over the years. I was a solid Labour voter but now I'm a floating voter. I have moved closer to the right and have views encompassing both sides of the debate. I can have my opinion changed, just not by nonsense. These Trump supporters are still trying to push the line the election was somehow illegal and why? What is the point on an SCFC forum? It just got to tedious for me. We have enough to argue over with Welsh and Uk politics. | |
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Enough is enough on 22:27 - Apr 30 with 936 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Enough is enough on 21:11 - Apr 30 by Catullus | The whole point of it was to challenge the vote yes, to try and prove it was not a legal election or in other words, fixed somehow. It wasn't to prove the vote legal and you know that, it was entirely about discrediting it. US politics was done on here, we had all this but someone decided to dredge it all up again, WHY? Who realy cares now? They are not going to overturn the election, Biden is and will remain POTUS for better or for worse. Right, you got me, I answered, I won't again. You conspiracy theorists need your own section. |
This is not to get an answer from you, but to set the record straight. You repeated the mass media lies that the "evidence" was rejected by the US Courts. The evidence was not rejected by any court, the "right" to present it to the court was rejected. Regardless of who tried to present it, they had "no standing", even 19 states had no standing to present the evidence. Not even to protect the votes of their own voters. The only groups of authority that were presented with the evidence were the State Legislature committees. When the Legislature committees saw the evidence they immediately called for Audits. That includes the Democrats in those committees. Since that point the State Governors and Secretaries of State have refused to comply, both with the Legislature and with the courts until now. Although they are still trying their best to prevent it from proceeding, now involving the DOJ to stop it. Why wouldn't everybody want transparency and to prove that BIden is the legal President by winning the most legal votes. An analogy would be the up coming Welsh elections where Cardiff and Newport cheated in the election to get their favoured people in place. When the other counties and cities found out about the fraud they took it to court, only to be told sorry you do not have the right to bring it to court so we are not going to even look at it, because you have "no standing". | | | |
Enough is enough on 22:30 - Apr 30 with 928 views | Dr_Winston | Are there still Trumpian nutjobs claiming the US election was rigged? | |
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Enough is enough on 22:38 - Apr 30 with 908 views | KeithHaynes |
Enough is enough on 22:30 - Apr 30 by Dr_Winston | Are there still Trumpian nutjobs claiming the US election was rigged? |
Thousands I would imagine. | |
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Enough is enough on 22:38 - Apr 30 with 908 views | Gwyn737 |
Enough is enough on 22:30 - Apr 30 by Dr_Winston | Are there still Trumpian nutjobs claiming the US election was rigged? |
Only a few of the more extreme ones left. It’s shouting at clouds. | | | |
Enough is enough on 23:12 - Apr 30 with 880 views | max936 |
Enough is enough on 22:30 - Apr 30 by Dr_Winston | Are there still Trumpian nutjobs claiming the US election was rigged? |
The twilight zone, Is alive and well, remember the 3000 pages of the Twin Towers conspiracy. Trump was a fantasist and a dreamer who lived a Billionaire's life, he was shamefully clueless to peoples daily lives, how's that wall coming along, absolute clown of a bloke let alone President of one of the Worlds biggest Super Power's, he was a danger to the World, its a tad safer now he's gone. | |
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Enough is enough on 23:19 - Apr 30 with 867 views | KeithHaynes |
Enough is enough on 23:12 - Apr 30 by max936 | The twilight zone, Is alive and well, remember the 3000 pages of the Twin Towers conspiracy. Trump was a fantasist and a dreamer who lived a Billionaire's life, he was shamefully clueless to peoples daily lives, how's that wall coming along, absolute clown of a bloke let alone President of one of the Worlds biggest Super Power's, he was a danger to the World, its a tad safer now he's gone. |
The twin towers still makes me scratch my head now. Just for the way they achieved it. | |
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