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All over bar the shouting? on 15:06 - Nov 9 by spudgun
Wasn`t that weird?
But not as weird as this.
Jim Jones II anyone...?
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 11:48 - Nov 10 with 706 views
All over bar the shouting? on 11:48 - Nov 10 by spell_chekker
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 20:06 - Nov 10 with 692 views
All over bar the shouting? on 20:06 - Nov 10 by spell_chekker
Sore loser, no class.
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 20:21 - Nov 11 with 669 views
All over bar the shouting? on 20:21 - Nov 11 by spudgun
Yep, just watched that on CNN.
They posited an interesting theory as to why the not many Republicans are openly speaking out against Trump yet.
It is allow the Republican base to remain angry so they vote in numbers at the Georgia run offs for the two Senate seats...
Yup go with that. Also scared if they don't back him, he'll take his revenge by getting his supporters not to vote ib the senate run offs on Jan 5th.
Think some Republicans are also trying to court Trump's supporters for a shot at the big job in 2024
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
Yup go with that. Also scared if they don't back him, he'll take his revenge by getting his supporters not to vote ib the senate run offs on Jan 5th.
Think some Republicans are also trying to court Trump's supporters for a shot at the big job in 2024
Trump's 234 pages of 'election fraud' affidavits include Detroit poll watcher who says he thought military wouldn't vote Biden and that 'independent' watchers were liberals 'because they wanted to work in Brooklyn'
Sworn statements from a Donald Trump campaign lawsuit alleging vote fraud include complaints about military ballots going for Biden despite one GOP poll watcher saying he thought those who serve are 'conservative.'
The same poll-watcher also said under oath that he believed independent poll watchers were in fact left-wing radicals.
Among the the things that tipped off the GOP poll watcher: the independents said they wanted to work in Brooklyn or expressed sympathy with protesters who declared an autonomous zone in Seattle.
'As a final note, I did find it odd that, throughout the day/night, I saw a few dozen military ballots be counted,' according to one affidavit accompanying the suit.
'Although I cannot provide specific numbers or names, I can estimate that at least 80% of the military ballots I saw were straight ticket democrat or simply had Joe Biden's name filled in on them. I had always been told that military personnel tended to be more conservative, so this stuck out to me as the day went on,' GOP poll watcher Braden Giacobazzi wrote.
The affidavit one of dozens contained in 234 pages of 'evidence' released by the Trump campaign and submitted to federal court in Michigan.
The 234 pages were brandished by Kayleigh McEnany on Fox News on Tuesday then filed in full Wednesday.
It is a central plank in her boss Donald Trump's attempt to overturn the result of the election in Michigan, where he is 148,645 votes behind.
'We keep hearing the drum beat of where is the evidence but right here 234 pages of sworn affidavits, from real people, real allegations, signed with notaries,' McEnany said on Sean Hannity's show on Tuesday.
'In one county, Wayne County, Michigan, in one batch of ballots, 60 percent had the same signatures, 35 had no voter record but were counted anyway, 50 ballots were run multiple times through a machine.
'One woman said her son was deceased but still voted,' she added. None of those claims can be verified and the affidavits have not been released.
'This is one county where our poll watchers were threatened with racial harassment, pushed out of the way, and Democratic challengers were handing out documents saying how to distract GOP challengers.'
Those claims too are unverified.
'The president wants justice for the 72 million plus forgotten men and women of this country,' McEnany concluded.
It is unclear what number she was referring to; so far Trump has 71,925,902 votes and Joe Biden has 79,996,528 votes.
The files as released in the court documents include repeated complaints that poll watchers were not allowed close enough to see ballots, because of the six-foot social distancing rules.
They include claims that workers at the polls were hostile to Republicans, and reveal that many of the GOP's poll watchers saw an appeal on Facebook to come to the count to 'challenge' ballots.
One said that he had 10 minutes training.
Other affidavits include complaints about poll staff wearing 'BLM and Biden' clothing.
One says that vehicles with out of state license plates delivered people who were 'brought in the DNC to control ballot counting activities.'
There are claims of actual irregularities in the files, including lack of signature verification, ballots being counted more than once and birthdays being entered as 1/1/1900.
Election officials have previously said that 1/1/1900 is used as a holding date of birth.
Poll watchers were a frequent source of complaint. Election rules provide for observers from each party and independents, and there are repeated complaints from GOP observers that they were kept too far from the action.
Giacobazzi in particular wasn't satisfied that the independents were truly independent.
'I talked with several of these 'independent' lawyers/law students at length in casual, friendly conversation and, based upon their answers to basic questions about the news, it was evident that EVERY single one of the lawyers/law students that I talked to was ideologically far-left, supported things like CHAZ/CHOP in Seattle and condoning the crime skyrocketing around the country or wanting to work in Brooklyn because they support 'progressive' changes to law to 'not prosecute rioters,' etc.' according to an affidavit.
Although Brooklyn has developed a national reputation as a hipster enclave, it is a diverse borough of New York. New York state has nearly 3 million registered Republicans. Independents recently surpassed registered Republicans there, NY1 reported, with Democrats still the dominant force to the tune of about 6 million.
A Braden Giacobazzi also gave a negative review to an area Checkers restaurant in Lincoln Park, Michigan.
'Always very slow. But the soft serve and food here is good as far as fast food goes and the staff is friendly But oh so slow.' A LinkedIn page identifies Giacobazzi as an engineer at Ford Motor Company.
'Yet, they all claimed to be independent. Anyway, every time a GOP staffer was removed from the room, most of the entire room would erupt in cheers and laughter and oftentimes derogatory insults as GOP Challengers were walked out by police,' the person wrote.
Another person alleged 'collaboration' with city poll workers.
'Poll workers would cheer, jeer and clap when poll challengers were escorted out of TCF Center. There seemed to be collaboration between democratic poll challengers and the City of Detroit poll workers.'
Another said Democratic volunteers were 'aggressive' and accused the GOP poll watchers of being part of a 'cult' for supporting Trump.
Another, Alexandra Seely, claimed she was called a 'bigot' and a 'c***' But the person who said it was unclear.
'She covered her name tag,' Seely wrote. She also swore there were 'backpacks and suitcases that were saran-wrapped' in the back of the counting room.
'I had a man scream in my face to back up and be 6 ft away when I already was or he'd throw me out,' she wrote in her hand-written affidavit.
Jacqueline Zaplitny complained that there was a 'man of intimidating size with a BLM shirt on.'
And she was photographed close to election workers by the Associated Press but in her affidavit said that a supervisor had gestured at her to stand further back so she could only 'observe closely for only a couple of minutes.'
The suit comes as President Donald Trump continues to say he will 'win' the election and attacks the election he lost as rigged and filled with fraud. Trump on Wednesday lashed out at a Republican election commissioner in Philadelphia who had denied claims of fraud, calling him a 'RINO' who was being 'used' by the media. '
He refuses to look at a mountain of corruption & dishonesty. We win!' Trump wrote.
However, his team has not had much success in getting judges to accept claims of fraud in states where Joe Biden won or is leading. Many of the Trump camp's complaints amount to individual charges which, even if true, would not be sufficient to throw out the thousands of votes where Biden is ahead.
Biden's collective lead in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania has grown to a total of 218,000 — compared to Trump's 2016 leads of less than 80,000.
A New York Times canvass of top election officials in every state failed to turn up accusations of fraud.
The challenges in court have suffered setbacks too.
During a Pennsylvania court hearing this week on one of the many election lawsuits brought by President Donald Trump, a judge asked a campaign lawyer whether he had found any signs of fraud found among the 592 ballots challenged.
The answer was no.
'Accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,' said the lawyer, Jonathan Goldstein. 'We're all just trying to get an election done.'
Trump has not been so cautious, insisting without evidence that the election was stolen from him even when election officials nationwide from both parties say there has been no conspiracy.
On Wednesday, Trump took aim at Philadelphia, the Democratic stronghold that helped push President-elect Joe Biden over the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the race. The president accused a local Republican election official Al Schmidt, of ignoring 'a mountain of corruption & dishonesty.' Twitter added a label that said the election fraud claim is disputed.
Trump loyalists have filed at least 15 legal challenges in Pennsylvania alone in an effort to reclaim the state´s 20 electoral votes. There is action, too, in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Michigan.
In court, his lawyers must walk a precarious line between advocating for their client and upholding their professional oath.
Legal ethicists and pro-democracy activists have questioned the participation of lawyers in this quest, as Trump clings to power and President-elect Joe Biden rolls out his agenda.
'This may be an attempt to appease the ego in chief, but there are real world consequences for real people that come out of that,' said Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt, a former Justice Department elections official. 'The attempt to soothe the president´s ego is not a victimless crime.
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 18:21 - Nov 12 with 647 views
Trump's 234 pages of 'election fraud' affidavits include Detroit poll watcher who says he thought military wouldn't vote Biden and that 'independent' watchers were liberals 'because they wanted to work in Brooklyn'
Sworn statements from a Donald Trump campaign lawsuit alleging vote fraud include complaints about military ballots going for Biden despite one GOP poll watcher saying he thought those who serve are 'conservative.'
The same poll-watcher also said under oath that he believed independent poll watchers were in fact left-wing radicals.
Among the the things that tipped off the GOP poll watcher: the independents said they wanted to work in Brooklyn or expressed sympathy with protesters who declared an autonomous zone in Seattle.
'As a final note, I did find it odd that, throughout the day/night, I saw a few dozen military ballots be counted,' according to one affidavit accompanying the suit.
'Although I cannot provide specific numbers or names, I can estimate that at least 80% of the military ballots I saw were straight ticket democrat or simply had Joe Biden's name filled in on them. I had always been told that military personnel tended to be more conservative, so this stuck out to me as the day went on,' GOP poll watcher Braden Giacobazzi wrote.
The affidavit one of dozens contained in 234 pages of 'evidence' released by the Trump campaign and submitted to federal court in Michigan.
The 234 pages were brandished by Kayleigh McEnany on Fox News on Tuesday then filed in full Wednesday.
It is a central plank in her boss Donald Trump's attempt to overturn the result of the election in Michigan, where he is 148,645 votes behind.
'We keep hearing the drum beat of where is the evidence but right here 234 pages of sworn affidavits, from real people, real allegations, signed with notaries,' McEnany said on Sean Hannity's show on Tuesday.
'In one county, Wayne County, Michigan, in one batch of ballots, 60 percent had the same signatures, 35 had no voter record but were counted anyway, 50 ballots were run multiple times through a machine.
'One woman said her son was deceased but still voted,' she added. None of those claims can be verified and the affidavits have not been released.
'This is one county where our poll watchers were threatened with racial harassment, pushed out of the way, and Democratic challengers were handing out documents saying how to distract GOP challengers.'
Those claims too are unverified.
'The president wants justice for the 72 million plus forgotten men and women of this country,' McEnany concluded.
It is unclear what number she was referring to; so far Trump has 71,925,902 votes and Joe Biden has 79,996,528 votes.
The files as released in the court documents include repeated complaints that poll watchers were not allowed close enough to see ballots, because of the six-foot social distancing rules.
They include claims that workers at the polls were hostile to Republicans, and reveal that many of the GOP's poll watchers saw an appeal on Facebook to come to the count to 'challenge' ballots.
One said that he had 10 minutes training.
Other affidavits include complaints about poll staff wearing 'BLM and Biden' clothing.
One says that vehicles with out of state license plates delivered people who were 'brought in the DNC to control ballot counting activities.'
There are claims of actual irregularities in the files, including lack of signature verification, ballots being counted more than once and birthdays being entered as 1/1/1900.
Election officials have previously said that 1/1/1900 is used as a holding date of birth.
Poll watchers were a frequent source of complaint. Election rules provide for observers from each party and independents, and there are repeated complaints from GOP observers that they were kept too far from the action.
Giacobazzi in particular wasn't satisfied that the independents were truly independent.
'I talked with several of these 'independent' lawyers/law students at length in casual, friendly conversation and, based upon their answers to basic questions about the news, it was evident that EVERY single one of the lawyers/law students that I talked to was ideologically far-left, supported things like CHAZ/CHOP in Seattle and condoning the crime skyrocketing around the country or wanting to work in Brooklyn because they support 'progressive' changes to law to 'not prosecute rioters,' etc.' according to an affidavit.
Although Brooklyn has developed a national reputation as a hipster enclave, it is a diverse borough of New York. New York state has nearly 3 million registered Republicans. Independents recently surpassed registered Republicans there, NY1 reported, with Democrats still the dominant force to the tune of about 6 million.
A Braden Giacobazzi also gave a negative review to an area Checkers restaurant in Lincoln Park, Michigan.
'Always very slow. But the soft serve and food here is good as far as fast food goes and the staff is friendly But oh so slow.' A LinkedIn page identifies Giacobazzi as an engineer at Ford Motor Company.
'Yet, they all claimed to be independent. Anyway, every time a GOP staffer was removed from the room, most of the entire room would erupt in cheers and laughter and oftentimes derogatory insults as GOP Challengers were walked out by police,' the person wrote.
Another person alleged 'collaboration' with city poll workers.
'Poll workers would cheer, jeer and clap when poll challengers were escorted out of TCF Center. There seemed to be collaboration between democratic poll challengers and the City of Detroit poll workers.'
Another said Democratic volunteers were 'aggressive' and accused the GOP poll watchers of being part of a 'cult' for supporting Trump.
Another, Alexandra Seely, claimed she was called a 'bigot' and a 'c***' But the person who said it was unclear.
'She covered her name tag,' Seely wrote. She also swore there were 'backpacks and suitcases that were saran-wrapped' in the back of the counting room.
'I had a man scream in my face to back up and be 6 ft away when I already was or he'd throw me out,' she wrote in her hand-written affidavit.
Jacqueline Zaplitny complained that there was a 'man of intimidating size with a BLM shirt on.'
And she was photographed close to election workers by the Associated Press but in her affidavit said that a supervisor had gestured at her to stand further back so she could only 'observe closely for only a couple of minutes.'
The suit comes as President Donald Trump continues to say he will 'win' the election and attacks the election he lost as rigged and filled with fraud. Trump on Wednesday lashed out at a Republican election commissioner in Philadelphia who had denied claims of fraud, calling him a 'RINO' who was being 'used' by the media. '
He refuses to look at a mountain of corruption & dishonesty. We win!' Trump wrote.
However, his team has not had much success in getting judges to accept claims of fraud in states where Joe Biden won or is leading. Many of the Trump camp's complaints amount to individual charges which, even if true, would not be sufficient to throw out the thousands of votes where Biden is ahead.
Biden's collective lead in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania has grown to a total of 218,000 — compared to Trump's 2016 leads of less than 80,000.
A New York Times canvass of top election officials in every state failed to turn up accusations of fraud.
The challenges in court have suffered setbacks too.
During a Pennsylvania court hearing this week on one of the many election lawsuits brought by President Donald Trump, a judge asked a campaign lawyer whether he had found any signs of fraud found among the 592 ballots challenged.
The answer was no.
'Accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,' said the lawyer, Jonathan Goldstein. 'We're all just trying to get an election done.'
Trump has not been so cautious, insisting without evidence that the election was stolen from him even when election officials nationwide from both parties say there has been no conspiracy.
On Wednesday, Trump took aim at Philadelphia, the Democratic stronghold that helped push President-elect Joe Biden over the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the race. The president accused a local Republican election official Al Schmidt, of ignoring 'a mountain of corruption & dishonesty.' Twitter added a label that said the election fraud claim is disputed.
Trump loyalists have filed at least 15 legal challenges in Pennsylvania alone in an effort to reclaim the state´s 20 electoral votes. There is action, too, in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada and Michigan.
In court, his lawyers must walk a precarious line between advocating for their client and upholding their professional oath.
Legal ethicists and pro-democracy activists have questioned the participation of lawyers in this quest, as Trump clings to power and President-elect Joe Biden rolls out his agenda.
'This may be an attempt to appease the ego in chief, but there are real world consequences for real people that come out of that,' said Loyola Law School professor Justin Levitt, a former Justice Department elections official. 'The attempt to soothe the president´s ego is not a victimless crime.
All over bar the shouting? on 18:21 - Nov 12 by spell_chekker
Is he really going to make this whole circus play out and drag the country and it's population through it?
Surreal.
The weirdest thing.
As you know I defer to nobody (well, perhaps JaneG) in my dislike of the orange buffoon.
For some reason I watched some Trump interviews from the 80`s and 90`s, and I`ve got to say he seemed a different person. OK, he was still boastful and generally untrustworthy, but he didn`t seen anywhere near as rude or stupid. His voice and mannerisms were completely different, and he used bigger words, and more appropriate words.
I`m worried that I may becoming a shy Trumpette...
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All over bar the shouting? on 19:36 - Nov 12 with 642 views
All over bar the shouting? on 18:32 - Nov 12 by spudgun
The weirdest thing.
As you know I defer to nobody (well, perhaps JaneG) in my dislike of the orange buffoon.
For some reason I watched some Trump interviews from the 80`s and 90`s, and I`ve got to say he seemed a different person. OK, he was still boastful and generally untrustworthy, but he didn`t seen anywhere near as rude or stupid. His voice and mannerisms were completely different, and he used bigger words, and more appropriate words.
I`m worried that I may becoming a shy Trumpette...
[Post edited 12 Nov 2020 20:16]
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 22:50 - Nov 13 with 627 views
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 19:44 - Nov 15 with 615 views
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 21:55 - Nov 15 with 612 views
All over bar the shouting? on 07:49 - Nov 16 by spudgun
I suspect Melania may be "sticking the boot in" some time next year. And not in a nice way.
I would be happy if he was made to walk around for a month with a red baseball cap on proclaiming "I am a Loser"...
New walk on music for Trump's next rally
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 19:59 - Nov 16 with 588 views
All over bar the shouting? on 19:59 - Nov 16 by spudgun
Familiarity with it doesn`t make it any better...
All over bar the nuking?
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 22:36 - Nov 19 with 559 views
"We will not be intimidated...We are going to clean this mess up now. President Trump won by a landslide. We are going to prove it. And we are going to reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for freedom."—Sidney Powell pic.twitter.com/8KCEOGuL7w
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 14:04 - Nov 20 with 541 views
"We will not be intimidated...We are going to clean this mess up now. President Trump won by a landslide. We are going to prove it. And we are going to reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for freedom."—Sidney Powell pic.twitter.com/8KCEOGuL7w
All over bar the shouting? on 14:04 - Nov 20 by spudgun
Kind of a fitting analogy for the end of the Trump administration.
Fake hair colour running down his lying contorted face...
For many years I had near the top of my bucket list a desire to drive route 66 and experience the America of my dreams. Over time that view has soured as an alternative America has shown itself epitomised by the current occupier of the white house his followers and advisors.
To have a " special relationship" with the United States is nothing to be proud about.
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All over bar the shouting? on 15:55 - Nov 20 with 538 views
All over bar the shouting? on 14:04 - Nov 20 by spudgun
Kind of a fitting analogy for the end of the Trump administration.
Fake hair colour running down his lying contorted face...
Seems Trump has privately accepted the defeat, he's just on a mission to poison the well for Biden, and set up the groundwork for a possible run for office again in 2024
‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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All over bar the shouting? on 20:01 - Nov 20 with 528 views
Seems Trump has privately accepted the defeat, he's just on a mission to poison the well for Biden, and set up the groundwork for a possible run for office again in 2024
I've forgotten.
What was the choice in the election?
Either freak show Trump or geriatric Biden.
Fortunately the geriatric won.
Man, woman, spud, potatao, Scarborough, mintcake ...... I'm going to watch the TELE!!!!
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‘Where there is harmony, may we bring discord. Where there is truth, may we bring error. Where there is faith, may we bring doubt. And where there is hope, may we bring despair’
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