| New Tory Poll - Wow! 14:04 - Jun 24 with 4944 views | costalotta |
LBC been going on about this new poll. Wow...
A new poll of Conservative party members demonstrates a chilling’ attitudes towards Muslims have been revealed.
"43% of Tory members would not be happy with a Muslim Prime Minister and 40% want fewer Muslims to be allowed into the UK, according to the YouGov survey carried out by anti-racism campaign group Hope Not Hate."
"67% revealed they believe “there are areas in Britain that operate under Sharia law”, and 45% think “there are areas in Britain in which non-Muslims are not able to enter”."
"In addition just 8% of Tory members said there is a problem with Islamophobia or racism towards Muslims within the Conservative Party. 79% don’t think there is a problem."
And these guys are deciding a PM!
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:34 - Jun 24 with 3769 views | Lohengrin |
I doubt those percentages would differ to a great degree if you conducted a street survey in Bonymaen. |  |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:42 - Jun 24 with 3755 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:34 - Jun 24 by Lohengrin |
I doubt those percentages would differ to a great degree if you conducted a street survey in Bonymaen. |
Indeed but thats not the point.
Its the complete non understanding and distance lack of knowledge of facts. But they've been fed and believe without questioning. You could argue that a lack of opportunities, social mobility and deprivation may have caused the lack of knowledge in Bonymaen. However, in the affluent Tory areas I'm genuinely surprised about that that is the limit of their knowledge. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:49 - Jun 24 with 3725 views | Lohengrin |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:42 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Indeed but thats not the point.
Its the complete non understanding and distance lack of knowledge of facts. But they've been fed and believe without questioning. You could argue that a lack of opportunities, social mobility and deprivation may have caused the lack of knowledge in Bonymaen. However, in the affluent Tory areas I'm genuinely surprised about that that is the limit of their knowledge. |
Antipathy toward Islam has been a constant of European culture for millennia; I don’t know why anybody from Tunbridge Wells or Surbiton would have developed some sort of immunity, if it can be put like that?  | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:49 - Jun 24 with 3724 views | Wingstandwood |
You are correct (if thats what you are implying) the Tory Party does appear to be rather less inclusive than the Brexit Party with its significant support from the Asian community and multicultural broad church appeal.
Jewish candidates i.e. Simon Marcus and Lance Forman, black gay candidate i.e. Louis Stedman-Bryce, black Nigerian-born lawyer candidate Elizabeth Babade, daughter of first generation Indian immigrants candidate i.e. Alka Sehgal Cuthbert, Asian candidate i.e.Vishal’s Khatri. |  |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:53 - Jun 24 with 3702 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:49 - Jun 24 by Lohengrin |
Antipathy toward Islam has been a constant of European culture for millennia; I don’t know why anybody from Tunbridge Wells or Surbiton would have developed some sort of immunity, if it can be put like that? |
We're not talking about apathy. Were talking about a belief which is completely untrue. People believing misinformation. A sustained campaign of misinformation...one which has been a huge success.
You do realise that don't you? | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:56 - Jun 24 with 3692 views | Lohengrin |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:53 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
We're not talking about apathy. Were talking about a belief which is completely untrue. People believing misinformation. A sustained campaign of misinformation...one which has been a huge success.
You do realise that don't you? |
Which part do you disbelieve? | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:56 - Jun 24 with 3691 views | Highjack |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:42 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Indeed but thats not the point.
Its the complete non understanding and distance lack of knowledge of facts. But they've been fed and believe without questioning. You could argue that a lack of opportunities, social mobility and deprivation may have caused the lack of knowledge in Bonymaen. However, in the affluent Tory areas I'm genuinely surprised about that that is the limit of their knowledge. |
There are estimated to be around 40-85 sharia councils across England and Wales who deal with disputes, divorces and other offences under Islamic law. Although the decisions made are not legally binding and cannot supersede UK law.
So those 67% would be right to a certain degree. To suggest there aren’t areas in the UK under the influence of these councils would be wrong. But I imagine people’s perception of what they do might be a bit distorted. |  |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:58 - Jun 24 with 3685 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:56 - Jun 24 by Lohengrin |
Which part do you disbelieve? |
Is that all you got... answering a question with a question! | | | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:59 - Jun 24 with 3680 views | Highjack |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:58 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Is that all you got... answering a question with a question! |
You just answered lohegrins question with a question. | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:00 - Jun 24 with 3678 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:56 - Jun 24 by Highjack |
There are estimated to be around 40-85 sharia councils across England and Wales who deal with disputes, divorces and other offences under Islamic law. Although the decisions made are not legally binding and cannot supersede UK law.
So those 67% would be right to a certain degree. To suggest there aren’t areas in the UK under the influence of these councils would be wrong. But I imagine people’s perception of what they do might be a bit distorted. |
Hahaha. Were you in the sample audience High Jack ?
" estimated to be around 40-85 sharia councils across England and Wales " - They need to work on their estimating 40 - 85 FFS, lol. [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 15:02]
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:01 - Jun 24 with 3675 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:59 - Jun 24 by Highjack |
You just answered lohegrins question with a question. |
I did. It takes two or more to debate as it does to play silly games. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:07 - Jun 24 with 3645 views | Highjack |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:00 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Hahaha. Were you in the sample audience High Jack ?
" estimated to be around 40-85 sharia councils across England and Wales " - They need to work on their estimating 40 - 85 FFS, lol. [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 15:02]
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Are you suggesting there aren’t any sharia councils operating in the UK?
This independent report into the practices of sharia councils in the UK seems to suggest otherwise...
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attac | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:08 - Jun 24 with 3634 views | Lohengrin |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:58 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Is that all you got... answering a question with a question! |
Let me know what is you’re after and I’ll deliver it with a cherry on top. | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:13 - Jun 24 with 3617 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:08 - Jun 24 by Lohengrin |
Let me know what is you’re after and I’ll deliver it with a cherry on top. |
Well, if there is a cherry on top it has to be Joes iceceam. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:13 - Jun 24 with 3614 views | Highjack |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 14:53 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
We're not talking about apathy. Were talking about a belief which is completely untrue. People believing misinformation. A sustained campaign of misinformation...one which has been a huge success.
You do realise that don't you? |
Yes but that’s religion for you. | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:14 - Jun 24 with 3613 views | costalotta |
Can you read? I though it was clear as day what I suggested but I will repeat.
Maybe they want to work on their estimating! 40-85 FFS. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:14 - Jun 24 with 3611 views | Lohengrin |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:13 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Well, if there is a cherry on top it has to be Joes iceceam. |
You know where you are with Joe’s. Good shout. | |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:16 - Jun 24 with 3604 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:14 - Jun 24 by Lohengrin |
You know where you are with Joe’s. Good shout. |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:24 - Jun 24 with 3585 views | Highjack |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:14 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Can you read? I though it was clear as day what I suggested but I will repeat.
Maybe they want to work on their estimating! 40-85 FFS. |
So the estimate is wrong?
It really isn’t clear as day what you are suggesting.
Throw me a fricking bone here. [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 15:25]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 15:27 - Jun 24 with 3570 views | Jacket |
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| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:36 - Jun 24 with 3550 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:24 - Jun 24 by Highjack |
So the estimate is wrong?
It really isn’t clear as day what you are suggesting.
Throw me a fricking bone here. [Post edited 24 Jun 2019 15:25]
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Do i really have to explain it?
Given the numbers you quote there is the potential to be more 50% out! So...I will say it again they need to work on their estimating. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:47 - Jun 24 with 3536 views | trinityann |
And what is so shocking about this poll. I wouldn't personally favour a Muslim prime minister, I would be much more comfortable with a Smith or a Jones in charge. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 16:17 - Jun 24 with 3487 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 15:47 - Jun 24 by trinityann |
And what is so shocking about this poll. I wouldn't personally favour a Muslim prime minister, I would be much more comfortable with a Smith or a Jones in charge. |
Not judging you but shouldn't it be best person for the Job? I mean, you've put religion in front of what would be best for the Country and its people. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 16:36 - Jun 24 with 3458 views | trinityann |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 16:17 - Jun 24 by costalotta |
Not judging you but shouldn't it be best person for the Job? I mean, you've put religion in front of what would be best for the Country and its people. |
Judging on the mayor of London, I don't think it's a good idea. | | | |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 16:37 - Jun 24 with 3453 views | costalotta |
| New Tory Poll - Wow! on 16:36 - Jun 24 by trinityann |
Judging on the mayor of London, I don't think it's a good idea. |
Errr. What is not a good idea? | | | |
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