| Remain petition on 17:49 - Mar 30 with 1445 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Remain petition on 17:43 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy |
It did amuse me and Lisa and I had quit the spat about it at the time. |
As you also missed the point... |  | |  |
| Remain petition on 17:52 - Mar 30 with 1440 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Remain petition on 17:49 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
As you also missed the point... |
So you said. Perhaps you didn’t express it too well.  |  |
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| Remain petition on 17:55 - Mar 30 with 1433 views | chad |
| Remain petition on 17:38 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
It’s the blood cells underneath the skin expanding due to anger (or outrage) that causes the gammon effect, not the colour of the skin.
Such anger is often brought on in the gammon by such subjects as ‘bloody foreigners taking our jobs’. |
Or brexiteers winning the referendum?
Yes like so many racist terms all about context and implication and even from your usage very much relates to skin colour. |  | | |
| Remain petition on 17:58 - Mar 30 with 1425 views | chad |
| Remain petition on 17:42 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
The reference is to me, although it’s not what I said and spectacularly misses the point of what I said,
How unusual for spratty. |
Oh Sunday name now, always call me chad when you agreed with me | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:01 - Mar 30 with 1416 views | Highjack |
| Remain petition on 17:06 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy |
The term originates from Dickens.
“The meaning of that term–gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory.”
Stop being a snowflake. |
I would hazard a guess it comes from the French word Jambon.
And I’m sure those throwing around the term didn’t have dickens in the forefront of their mind. |  |
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| Remain petition on 18:02 - Mar 30 with 1415 views | Fireboy2 |
Gammon?
I love it, very very tasty but never ever have I known it referred as a skin colour.
And before any clever cvnt says I'm uneducated I've got 4 O' Levels you know. |  | | |
| Remain petition on 18:04 - Mar 30 with 1410 views | chad |
| Remain petition on 17:52 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy |
So you said. Perhaps you didn’t express it too well. |
Dear me we both missed the point and not the only ones as I recall
Perhaps it was a strawman argument - dictionary definition for clarification. Lisa is quite fond of making them. Bit like when you fart and blame it on the dog | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:04 - Mar 30 with 1409 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Remain petition on 18:01 - Mar 30 by Highjack |
I would hazard a guess it comes from the French word Jambon.
And I’m sure those throwing around the term didn’t have dickens in the forefront of their mind. |
Why would people start calling other people a word based on the french word for a variation on the word they’re actually using? You mad bro. | |
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| Remain petition on 18:05 - Mar 30 with 1407 views | monmouth |
| Remain petition on 18:04 - Mar 30 by chad |
Dear me we both missed the point and not the only ones as I recall
Perhaps it was a strawman argument - dictionary definition for clarification. Lisa is quite fond of making them. Bit like when you fart and blame it on the dog |
My dog has learned to fart and point at me. |  |
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| Remain petition on 18:07 - Mar 30 with 1396 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Remain petition on 18:05 - Mar 30 by monmouth |
My dog has learned to fart and point at me. |
Me and my dog both point at the wife. She spent a year not being able to trump so she’s quite proud of the fact that she can again now. Probably shouldn’t be telling the forum this mind but she never reads it so.  | |
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| Remain petition on 18:08 - Mar 30 with 1391 views | Highjack |
| Remain petition on 18:04 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy |
Why would people start calling other people a word based on the french word for a variation on the word they’re actually using? You mad bro. |
The point is Dickens didn’t invent the word as you wrongly claim. | |
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| Remain petition on 18:11 - Mar 30 with 1383 views | Highjack |
| Remain petition on 17:39 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Yeah, you’re wrong. |
Which bit is wrong? The bit about all racism being condemned? The bit about derogatory terms based on skin colour being wrong? Or the bit about racists being scum?
Take your time... | |
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| Remain petition on 18:12 - Mar 30 with 1375 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Remain petition on 17:55 - Mar 30 by chad |
Or brexiteers winning the referendum?
Yes like so many racist terms all about context and implication and even from your usage very much relates to skin colour. |
Nope. You’re wrong.
Someone isn’t born gammon. It takes a number of years of reading the Daily Mail to develop the full blown gammon. And there are plenty of non white gammons about. James Cleverly is one. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:13 - Mar 30 with 1374 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Remain petition on 18:08 - Mar 30 by Highjack |
The point is Dickens didn’t invent the word as you wrongly claim. |
I claimed no such thing. I said “the term originates from Dickens” obviously meaning the term used in the context being discussed in this thread. The same word often has a different meaning depending on the context in which it’s being used. Newsflash - I don’t think Dickens invented words for any cuts of meat. [Post edited 30 Mar 2019 18:14]
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| Remain petition on 18:13 - Mar 30 with 1374 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Remain petition on 17:58 - Mar 30 by chad |
Oh Sunday name now, always call me chad when you agreed with me |
Nope. I use the two interchangeably. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:15 - Mar 30 with 1366 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Remain petition on 18:11 - Mar 30 by Highjack |
Which bit is wrong? The bit about all racism being condemned? The bit about derogatory terms based on skin colour being wrong? Or the bit about racists being scum?
Take your time... |
The bit I’ve already explained to you. Do keep up. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:15 - Mar 30 with 1365 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Remain petition on 18:12 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Nope. You’re wrong.
Someone isn’t born gammon. It takes a number of years of reading the Daily Mail to develop the full blown gammon. And there are plenty of non white gammons about. James Cleverly is one. |
David Lammy is also prone to gammon-esque outbursts. Although not generally Brexit related. [Post edited 30 Mar 2019 18:16]
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| Remain petition on 18:18 - Mar 30 with 1352 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Remain petition on 18:15 - Mar 30 by exiledclaseboy |
David Lammy is also prone to gammon-esque outbursts. Although not generally Brexit related. [Post edited 30 Mar 2019 18:16]
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He is indeed. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:24 - Mar 30 with 1346 views | Flashberryjack |
| Remain petition on 18:02 - Mar 30 by Fireboy2 |
Gammon?
I love it, very very tasty but never ever have I known it referred as a skin colour.
And before any clever cvnt says I'm uneducated I've got 4 O' Levels you know. |
Gammon, 2 freshly laid brown eggs, black pudding, white pudding, half red tomato fried, dollop of yellow french mustard, 2 rounds of light brown toast with lashings of green meadow butter, mug of black tea followed with large glass of freshly squeezed orange juice.
I love my Gammon. |  |
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| Remain petition on 18:29 - Mar 30 with 1336 views | Highjack |
| Remain petition on 18:15 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
The bit I’ve already explained to you. Do keep up. |
“Yeah. You’re wrong” isn’t a very detailed explanation tbh. | |
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| Remain petition on 18:37 - Mar 30 with 1322 views | waynekerr55 |
| Remain petition on 17:40 - Mar 30 by chad |
Know who it was - and know you remember it too cause it amused you as I recall. Thought it might make you smile.
Not sure if it was even blu Ray but similar if not. |
Sky TV was one, wasnt it? |  |
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| Remain petition on 18:51 - Mar 30 with 1310 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Remain petition on 18:29 - Mar 30 by Highjack |
“Yeah. You’re wrong” isn’t a very detailed explanation tbh. |
You’re wrong to say it’s a derogatory term aimed at people with pink skin.
The redness refers to the dilating blood vessels beneath the skin caused by their OUTRAGE. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:55 - Mar 30 with 1300 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Remain petition on 18:51 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
You’re wrong to say it’s a derogatory term aimed at people with pink skin.
The redness refers to the dilating blood vessels beneath the skin caused by their OUTRAGE. |
High blood pressure surely which isn't solely caused by OUTRAGE. | | | |
| Remain petition on 18:56 - Mar 30 with 1295 views | Highjack |
| Remain petition on 18:51 - Mar 30 by londonlisa2001 |
You’re wrong to say it’s a derogatory term aimed at people with pink skin.
The redness refers to the dilating blood vessels beneath the skin caused by their OUTRAGE. |
It’s not necessarily OUTRAGE though. It could be explained by high blood pressure, the heat of the studio or nervousness because they are on camera on national TV. I think a lot of us would blush in those circumstances. | |
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| Remain petition on 22:35 - Mar 30 with 1227 views | howenjack |
| Remain petition on 18:56 - Mar 30 by Highjack |
It’s not necessarily OUTRAGE though. It could be explained by high blood pressure, the heat of the studio or nervousness because they are on camera on national TV. I think a lot of us would blush in those circumstances. |
Not so sure about the gammon argument. What I do know is that those mp's are a bunch of hypocrites. Complaining about knife crime and what do they go and do ? Only stab 17 million people in the back. | | | |
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