| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:26 - Sep 23 with 1199 views | JackBaston |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:16 - Sep 23 by jack247 |
I think it would be crazy. It may well work, but it would be a huge gamble.
Being Welsh is irrelevant.
So is our philosophy. Aside from Siggy, the only players we have suited to it were here 5 years ago.
He has no experience of being the main man, aside from that sideshow at the end of the season a few years ago.
Reputation is pretty irrelevant too. Would we want players who would only come here because they used to have posters of the manager on their wall?
On the plus side, yes he would probably get a lot of support from Ferguron and has at least served his apprenticeship under LVG.
The only positive is that it at least implies we are going to take the transfer market seriously from now on. Can't see him risking his reputation on a first job unless we were looking at strengthening and giving him some input.
I'd far rather they just gave Guidolin some money to buy whichever players he wanted though. |
oh yeah i agree itd be a gamble but so would sticking with Guidolin at this current time and so would bringing in an experienced manager (look at Moyes,, Advocaat etc with Sunderland)
Personally at this moment in time, if we're going to go down i'd rather go down fighting like Blackpool and Burnley have done, playing our possession, attacking football philosophy which served us well until Monk started tinkering with it
And I can't help but feel Giggs may be an option for going back to that philosophy
The only thing i'll disagree with you on is about his reputation, of course its relevant. Look how many players signed for us when Laudrup was in charge. We're a small fish in a big pond, but that name could be the difference between a Spanish starlet signing for a club like Crystal Palace or West Brom, or signing with us |  | |  |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:33 - Sep 23 with 1185 views | max936 |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 14:32 - Sep 23 by oh_tommy_tommy |
He managed United then ?
Of course he did .
Rangel has much chance of being a future manager as anyone on any list .
Will he be our next manager
Of course he won't . |
Giggs is a massive no for me, plus I can't stand the tw@t, on a serious note he knew Utd inside out plus the players were with him and the hierarchy with them, it was an easy appointment for all concerned the fact he didn't keep the job speaks volumes, I also get the feeling he was kept on when Van Gaal got the job to keep an eye on things and I very much doubt that Van Gaal trusted him one iota either.
Would he be another yes man, fecking right he would. |  |
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| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:35 - Sep 23 with 1176 views | max936 |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 15:52 - Sep 23 by monmouth |
We have no class.
How the hell is Guidolin meant to prepare a team for tomorrow with all this crap flying around. Shit or get off the pot Jenkins. Back him publicly or sack him, put your own neck onthe line, and stop allowing or assisting the hounding a decent man that YOU appointed just a few months ago with press driven speculation and leaks. |
Any debatable class any of the board had disappeared the moment the divi's started being distributed Monny. | |
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| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:38 - Sep 23 with 1163 views | Griffting |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 14:11 - Sep 23 by WarwickHunt |
Not now though, FFS. |
Oh not now, no. God no. Still bloody playing for a start. |  | | |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:41 - Sep 23 with 1154 views | jack247 |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:26 - Sep 23 by JackBaston |
oh yeah i agree itd be a gamble but so would sticking with Guidolin at this current time and so would bringing in an experienced manager (look at Moyes,, Advocaat etc with Sunderland)
Personally at this moment in time, if we're going to go down i'd rather go down fighting like Blackpool and Burnley have done, playing our possession, attacking football philosophy which served us well until Monk started tinkering with it
And I can't help but feel Giggs may be an option for going back to that philosophy
The only thing i'll disagree with you on is about his reputation, of course its relevant. Look how many players signed for us when Laudrup was in charge. We're a small fish in a big pond, but that name could be the difference between a Spanish starlet signing for a club like Crystal Palace or West Brom, or signing with us |
I get what you're saying, but our philosophy has gone. No matter what HJ said last season, we don't sign players suited to it anymore. The only one recently was Paloschi. I'd love it if we could get back to it, but it's a pretty big change from where we are.
The only player that potentially came for Laudrup was Pablo. Michu, Chico, JdG etc would all have killed to play for a PL team given where they were at the time. What Laudrup did was identify them. That's a good knowledge of a particular league, rather than because of his playing career. |  | | |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:49 - Sep 23 with 1142 views | JackBaston |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:41 - Sep 23 by jack247 |
I get what you're saying, but our philosophy has gone. No matter what HJ said last season, we don't sign players suited to it anymore. The only one recently was Paloschi. I'd love it if we could get back to it, but it's a pretty big change from where we are.
The only player that potentially came for Laudrup was Pablo. Michu, Chico, JdG etc would all have killed to play for a PL team given where they were at the time. What Laudrup did was identify them. That's a good knowledge of a particular league, rather than because of his playing career. |
The philosophy doesnt have to be gone though does it?
I still think we have the players to still implement it, just what we've lost is Fabianski can't distribute out to the wings and neither can either of our centre halves, which Williams did fantastically
the wingers are still there, Llorente can hold the ball up like Bony and Scotland used to do and we have the best AM we've ever had still here
Our problem is that we have a manager who doesnt have faith in the quality of players he currently has, to pass the ball and attack with purpose | | | |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:56 - Sep 23 with 1131 views | jack247 |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:49 - Sep 23 by JackBaston |
The philosophy doesnt have to be gone though does it?
I still think we have the players to still implement it, just what we've lost is Fabianski can't distribute out to the wings and neither can either of our centre halves, which Williams did fantastically
the wingers are still there, Llorente can hold the ball up like Bony and Scotland used to do and we have the best AM we've ever had still here
Our problem is that we have a manager who doesnt have faith in the quality of players he currently has, to pass the ball and attack with purpose |
It's based on a short, sharp passing game with constant and intelligent movement.
Leon, Rangel, Gylfi, Routledge and Dyer are ideally suited to it.
Some others can adapt to it but it's not their natural game.
I like Llorente, but Gomis aside, he is probably the least suitable striker for that kind of game since the Alsop days. The striker needs to move and create gaps. Bony got away with it because of his close control and ability to hold defenders off until support arrived. | | | |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 17:20 - Sep 23 with 1088 views | Starsky |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 15:11 - Sep 23 by AngelRangelQS |
Rodgers did a great job at Watford.
Zola has failed everywhere he's been |
Yeah but Zola made tea for all the reporters whilst they camped outside his house, just before West Ham sacked him.
I'd like to think if Zola was in charge and we lost, we'd all. Get free tea.
Seriously though, I think we should keep Guido but relieve Huw of his duties.
Huw wanting him to go and the yanks wanting him to stay makes his position untenable |  |
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| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 17:23 - Sep 23 with 1081 views | Darran |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 16:56 - Sep 23 by jack247 |
It's based on a short, sharp passing game with constant and intelligent movement.
Leon, Rangel, Gylfi, Routledge and Dyer are ideally suited to it.
Some others can adapt to it but it's not their natural game.
I like Llorente, but Gomis aside, he is probably the least suitable striker for that kind of game since the Alsop days. The striker needs to move and create gaps. Bony got away with it because of his close control and ability to hold defenders off until support arrived. |
Why do you like Llorente hes done f*ck all to like? |  |
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| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 00:42 - Sep 24 with 977 views | DJack |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 17:20 - Sep 23 by Starsky |
Yeah but Zola made tea for all the reporters whilst they camped outside his house, just before West Ham sacked him.
I'd like to think if Zola was in charge and we lost, we'd all. Get free tea.
Seriously though, I think we should keep Guido but relieve Huw of his duties.
Huw wanting him to go and the yanks wanting him to stay makes his position untenable |
Cheers Starsky, on the nail again... Also credit to Jack 247. |  |
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| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 00:46 - Sep 24 with 968 views | DJack |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 17:23 - Sep 23 by Darran |
Why do you like Llorente hes done f*ck all to like? |
Darran, as ever, you give your opinion and you will stand by it, and that's great...this early in the season your opinion is not worth a vvank. It has substance but no validity, are you related to that drivelling idiot Skippyjack? | |
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| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 01:16 - Sep 24 with 957 views | morningstar |
Just as an aside. If Giggs did the gig! We'll be able to sing that song " Ryan giggs on fire na na na na" .......unless of course if it goes wrong and Swansealad69 does actually set him on fire, in which case it won't be good to sing that particular tune at all. |  |
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| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 06:15 - Sep 24 with 910 views | jack247 |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 17:23 - Sep 23 by Darran |
Why do you like Llorente hes done f*ck all to like? |
Because it's searingly obvious why he is doing fck all.
His touch is good, he holds the ball up well, he can hold off defenders and play others in. His reading of the game is intelligent and he is clearly a team player. He isn't a striker who is going to create his own chances and we aren't creating any for him.
There aren't many strikers who would be a threat in our current team. Surely you can see that? | | | |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 07:51 - Sep 24 with 873 views | Dr_Winston |
| Huw wants Giggs as new manager on 06:15 - Sep 24 by jack247 |
Because it's searingly obvious why he is doing fck all.
His touch is good, he holds the ball up well, he can hold off defenders and play others in. His reading of the game is intelligent and he is clearly a team player. He isn't a striker who is going to create his own chances and we aren't creating any for him.
There aren't many strikers who would be a threat in our current team. Surely you can see that? |
Lots of people haven't been able to see that for years. |  |
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