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Missing a trick regarding Bony? 19:02 - Jul 18 with 7575 viewsSheffieldjack

As pre-season preparations start I can't help but think that we're missing a trick with the Bony scenario. If Manchester City want £3 million for a season long loan, why not take them up on it and deduct the money from their outstanding balance to us. OK we would have to stump up wages for a season, but we'd actually be shelling no money out on a transfer fee. We know that Bony suits our style of play and we can't go into the new season with only one recognised striker. Come on Huw. You know it makes sense.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:17 - Jul 18 with 5260 viewsjackrabbit

I think the problem is that when one our better players leaves us to join a bigger, richer club like Man City, or Liverpool, their salary package is significantly increased. So when we as fans, go all dewey-eyed about seeing Bony and Allen back in our white shirts, the people who have to make the decisions see their current weekly wage packets that are inflated beyond what is comfortable for a club like Swansea - wage levels that can cause unrest and division in the changing room.

Swans are now at an impasse. We either grow or we'll eventually decline and drop out of the Premier League. We can't stay as we are. I'm sure the new owners recognise this and have formed a long term plan to take us forward. In time I look forward to hearing it. The immediate issue is the inadequate stadium. I expect to hear more about expansion plans sooner rather than later.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:20 - Jul 18 with 5237 viewsDr_Winston

We're assuming Guidolin wants him.

For all we know FG is planning for an all pace forward line. A higher value version of Laudrup's "three winger" setup.

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:24 - Jul 18 with 5206 viewsItchySphincter

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:17 - Jul 18 by jackrabbit

I think the problem is that when one our better players leaves us to join a bigger, richer club like Man City, or Liverpool, their salary package is significantly increased. So when we as fans, go all dewey-eyed about seeing Bony and Allen back in our white shirts, the people who have to make the decisions see their current weekly wage packets that are inflated beyond what is comfortable for a club like Swansea - wage levels that can cause unrest and division in the changing room.

Swans are now at an impasse. We either grow or we'll eventually decline and drop out of the Premier League. We can't stay as we are. I'm sure the new owners recognise this and have formed a long term plan to take us forward. In time I look forward to hearing it. The immediate issue is the inadequate stadium. I expect to hear more about expansion plans sooner rather than later.


The Liberty can't be expanded.

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:26 - Jul 18 with 5196 viewsNeathJack

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:20 - Jul 18 by Dr_Winston

We're assuming Guidolin wants him.

For all we know FG is planning for an all pace forward line. A higher value version of Laudrup's "three winger" setup.


Also assuming Bony would want to come back.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:30 - Jul 18 with 5172 viewsDr_Winston

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:24 - Jul 18 by ItchySphincter

The Liberty can't be expanded.


Yes it can. The question is how much will it cost.

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:30 - Jul 18 with 5171 viewsairedale

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:26 - Jul 18 by NeathJack

Also assuming Bony would want to come back.


Right. Coming back confirms his failure.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 00:43 - Jul 19 with 5010 viewsLoyal

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 05:22 - Jul 19 with 4929 viewsSheffieldjack

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:17 - Jul 18 by jackrabbit

I think the problem is that when one our better players leaves us to join a bigger, richer club like Man City, or Liverpool, their salary package is significantly increased. So when we as fans, go all dewey-eyed about seeing Bony and Allen back in our white shirts, the people who have to make the decisions see their current weekly wage packets that are inflated beyond what is comfortable for a club like Swansea - wage levels that can cause unrest and division in the changing room.

Swans are now at an impasse. We either grow or we'll eventually decline and drop out of the Premier League. We can't stay as we are. I'm sure the new owners recognise this and have formed a long term plan to take us forward. In time I look forward to hearing it. The immediate issue is the inadequate stadium. I expect to hear more about expansion plans sooner rather than later.


You make some good points. Couldn't we get around the problem of inflated wages for one player, like Bony, causing unrest and division by instead giving him a substantial signing on fee?
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 08:23 - Jul 19 with 4791 viewsdameedna

I expect to see Ayew and Routledge play most games and we add another striker or winger.

Given the choice I reckon FG will go for someone like Valencia.

If we see the Laudrup's 3 up front I'd be going with Ayew, Routs and Valencia-type (same as Alberto in some ways). Barrow with Montero as options.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 09:49 - Jul 19 with 4676 viewsSwaneeRiver

Bony would be a brilliant loan signing at £3 million and would fit right in.
If Guidolin doesn't want a guy in his team with a proven scoring record for Swans then there is something wrong.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 13:38 - Jul 19 with 4557 viewsItchySphincter

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:30 - Jul 18 by Dr_Winston

Yes it can. The question is how much will it cost.


More likely to knock it down and build another one. It can't happen.

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 13:40 - Jul 19 with 4550 viewsPozuelosSideys

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:20 - Jul 18 by Dr_Winston

We're assuming Guidolin wants him.

For all we know FG is planning for an all pace forward line. A higher value version of Laudrup's "three winger" setup.


Thatd be a nice thought. To do that, i think we'd need to bring in another creative central midfielder to cut defences open as well, we cant rely on just Gylfi to do that for a whole season, especially when teams park the bus.

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 14:48 - Jul 19 with 4483 viewsJBT95

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 22:17 - Jul 18 by jackrabbit

I think the problem is that when one our better players leaves us to join a bigger, richer club like Man City, or Liverpool, their salary package is significantly increased. So when we as fans, go all dewey-eyed about seeing Bony and Allen back in our white shirts, the people who have to make the decisions see their current weekly wage packets that are inflated beyond what is comfortable for a club like Swansea - wage levels that can cause unrest and division in the changing room.

Swans are now at an impasse. We either grow or we'll eventually decline and drop out of the Premier League. We can't stay as we are. I'm sure the new owners recognise this and have formed a long term plan to take us forward. In time I look forward to hearing it. The immediate issue is the inadequate stadium. I expect to hear more about expansion plans sooner rather than later.


Our stadium is not inadequate.

It has a fantastic pitch that has been voted pitch of the season while we have been in the PL and it has good player facilities. Really only those two things matter.

Yes most would love to have a bigger seating capacity, not necessarily me, but our stadium is certainly not inadequate. I like it as it is personally.
[Post edited 19 Jul 2016 14:49]
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 14:58 - Jul 19 with 4460 viewsjasper_T

How is forfeiting £3m of what City owes us "shelling no money out"?

It would be convenient for cashflow reasons only. It's still £3m lost/spent, same as it would be for any club.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:48 - Jul 19 with 4348 viewsSheffieldjack

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 14:58 - Jul 19 by jasper_T

How is forfeiting £3m of what City owes us "shelling no money out"?

It would be convenient for cashflow reasons only. It's still £3m lost/spent, same as it would be for any club.


For most clubs cashflow is a big issue, and my guess is that this is particularly true of us at the moment. Not having to actually lay the money out at this point would be a big advantage.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 23:11 - Jul 19 with 4234 viewsjackrabbit

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 14:48 - Jul 19 by JBT95

Our stadium is not inadequate.

It has a fantastic pitch that has been voted pitch of the season while we have been in the PL and it has good player facilities. Really only those two things matter.

Yes most would love to have a bigger seating capacity, not necessarily me, but our stadium is certainly not inadequate. I like it as it is personally.
[Post edited 19 Jul 2016 14:49]


22000 capacity is inadequate in the Premier League. That is solely what I term 'inadequate' about the Liberty.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 00:15 - Jul 20 with 4204 viewsjasper_T

It would have been inadequate back in the days when matchday takings were the bulk of a club's income.

The relative advantage of an extra 10k seats diminishes every year. A small stadium is not a significant financial handicap when 99% of the audience is watching on tv.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:48 - Jul 23 with 4007 viewsSheffieldjack

I hope that there's some mileage in this report:

SWANSEA are ready to launch a bid to re-sign Wilfried Bony.

Bony was a huge hit at the Liberty Stadium after arriving from Vitesse in July 2013 for a club record £12m fee, scoring 26 times in 56 league games.

Now the Swans, armed with significant funds thanks to their new majority shareholders from America, want him back - either on loan or at a cut-price £15m.

Italian coach Francesco Guidolin is desperate to boost the squad’s firepower as doubts persist over the future of £15million-rated striker Andre Ayew.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:50 - Jul 23 with 3999 viewsraynor94

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:48 - Jul 23 by Sheffieldjack

I hope that there's some mileage in this report:

SWANSEA are ready to launch a bid to re-sign Wilfried Bony.

Bony was a huge hit at the Liberty Stadium after arriving from Vitesse in July 2013 for a club record £12m fee, scoring 26 times in 56 league games.

Now the Swans, armed with significant funds thanks to their new majority shareholders from America, want him back - either on loan or at a cut-price £15m.

Italian coach Francesco Guidolin is desperate to boost the squad’s firepower as doubts persist over the future of £15million-rated striker Andre Ayew.


From who?

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:55 - Jul 23 with 3975 viewsChrisSCFC

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:50 - Jul 23 by raynor94

From who?


Express.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 19:04 - Jul 23 with 3934 viewsraynor94

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:55 - Jul 23 by ChrisSCFC

Express.


Cheers

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 19:30 - Jul 23 with 3840 viewsDyfnant

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:48 - Jul 23 by Sheffieldjack

I hope that there's some mileage in this report:

SWANSEA are ready to launch a bid to re-sign Wilfried Bony.

Bony was a huge hit at the Liberty Stadium after arriving from Vitesse in July 2013 for a club record £12m fee, scoring 26 times in 56 league games.

Now the Swans, armed with significant funds thanks to their new majority shareholders from America, want him back - either on loan or at a cut-price £15m.

Italian coach Francesco Guidolin is desperate to boost the squad’s firepower as doubts persist over the future of £15million-rated striker Andre Ayew.


£15M Bony £15M Ayew, self funding no brainer

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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 19:34 - Jul 23 with 3832 viewslondonlisa2001

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 18:48 - Jul 23 by Sheffieldjack

I hope that there's some mileage in this report:

SWANSEA are ready to launch a bid to re-sign Wilfried Bony.

Bony was a huge hit at the Liberty Stadium after arriving from Vitesse in July 2013 for a club record £12m fee, scoring 26 times in 56 league games.

Now the Swans, armed with significant funds thanks to their new majority shareholders from America, want him back - either on loan or at a cut-price £15m.

Italian coach Francesco Guidolin is desperate to boost the squad’s firepower as doubts persist over the future of £15million-rated striker Andre Ayew.


The accuracy of that is surely thrown into doubt when they say we rate Ayew at £15m.

All the talk at the moment is that Bony is going to Everton as a makeweight in a deal taking Stones to Man City.
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 19:49 - Jul 23 with 3763 viewsSheffieldjack

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 19:34 - Jul 23 by londonlisa2001

The accuracy of that is surely thrown into doubt when they say we rate Ayew at £15m.

All the talk at the moment is that Bony is going to Everton as a makeweight in a deal taking Stones to Man City.


Apparently the deal regarding Stones is complicated and a simple money transaction would suit Man City - and us!
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Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 19:53 - Jul 23 with 3747 viewsvetchonian

Missing a trick regarding Bony? on 19:34 - Jul 23 by londonlisa2001

The accuracy of that is surely thrown into doubt when they say we rate Ayew at £15m.

All the talk at the moment is that Bony is going to Everton as a makeweight in a deal taking Stones to Man City.


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