samba diakite? 12:46 - Aug 18 with 7918 views | brad | whats happening with this guy?are we gonna give him a chance or what,better than henry?or not,from hero to zero in 3 seasons,i thought he had a bit of talent with a bit of agression,just what we need for this league!any thoughts? | | | | |
samba diakite? on 12:59 - Aug 18 with 6255 views | WokingR |
They're trying to ruin him Where is the fun in a well behaved Samba ? | | | |
samba diakite? on 14:14 - Aug 18 with 6075 views | BasingstokeR |
Get out of my head NGB | | | |
samba diakite? on 15:34 - Aug 18 with 5961 views | BromleyHoop | v Carlisle??? Come on Chris you know want to! | |
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samba diakite? on 00:31 - Aug 19 with 5746 views | Benny_the_Ball | "a bit of agression". Understatement of the year! Complete loon is a more apt description. A likeable loon but a loon nonetheless. | | | |
samba diakite? on 00:56 - Aug 19 with 5718 views | Neil_SI | I've always been a huge fan of patience and development, but even in this example, I just fail to see how Diakite can eradicate the problems in his make up to succeed at this level. He's extremely likeable, has potential, but is horrendously raw. I think it's too late for him personally and he is unfortunately a liability that you can't rely on. I saw him play a couple of times in pre-season, and while some of his play was eye-catching, I didn't really see anything that suggested he's learned from the flaws in his game, and sadly they are very serious flaws that are likely to cause the team problems. I think he lacks mentally, technically and tactically. It's just too much ground to make up, even if he has excellent physical attributes and one or two technical abilities that combine well with his physical strengths. Personally I would never trust him in the centre of midfield. I said a long time ago that perhaps his best position for the team would be right-back, and if I had to play him, that's where I'd think about putting him. The reason being is simple. He is wild with his style, especially in open play where he can go in any direction. On the right, he'd be restricted to forwards and in field, lessening the decisions he needs to make and the amount of options for decision making. This simplification can help him improve, while at the same time, make use of some of his strengths, which is his ability to surge forwards, both with and without the ball. He'd need to work on his crossing though, but as he'd have less space to operate in in terms of defensive duties, it'd also help him improve and focus his tackling and blocks into concentrated areas of the pitch. Maybe even then, he could return to midfield if he could improve some of those basics and take them into his game into other positions on the pitch. [Post edited 19 Aug 2015 0:57]
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samba diakite? on 01:53 - Aug 19 with 5694 views | WilloW4 |
samba diakite? on 00:56 - Aug 19 by Neil_SI | I've always been a huge fan of patience and development, but even in this example, I just fail to see how Diakite can eradicate the problems in his make up to succeed at this level. He's extremely likeable, has potential, but is horrendously raw. I think it's too late for him personally and he is unfortunately a liability that you can't rely on. I saw him play a couple of times in pre-season, and while some of his play was eye-catching, I didn't really see anything that suggested he's learned from the flaws in his game, and sadly they are very serious flaws that are likely to cause the team problems. I think he lacks mentally, technically and tactically. It's just too much ground to make up, even if he has excellent physical attributes and one or two technical abilities that combine well with his physical strengths. Personally I would never trust him in the centre of midfield. I said a long time ago that perhaps his best position for the team would be right-back, and if I had to play him, that's where I'd think about putting him. The reason being is simple. He is wild with his style, especially in open play where he can go in any direction. On the right, he'd be restricted to forwards and in field, lessening the decisions he needs to make and the amount of options for decision making. This simplification can help him improve, while at the same time, make use of some of his strengths, which is his ability to surge forwards, both with and without the ball. He'd need to work on his crossing though, but as he'd have less space to operate in in terms of defensive duties, it'd also help him improve and focus his tackling and blocks into concentrated areas of the pitch. Maybe even then, he could return to midfield if he could improve some of those basics and take them into his game into other positions on the pitch. [Post edited 19 Aug 2015 0:57]
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"He's extremely likable"... Says who?.. An awful footballer, get rid. Nothing to like about him.! | | | | Login to get fewer ads
samba diakite? on 10:31 - Aug 19 with 5582 views | TacticalR | Normally if a player gets a yellow early in the game he will cool it. If Diakité gets a yellow early in the game the manager has to be thinking about substituting him immediately because he's very likely to get another yellow and get sent off. | |
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samba diakite? on 10:33 - Aug 19 with 5569 views | QPunkR |
samba diakite? on 00:56 - Aug 19 by Neil_SI | I've always been a huge fan of patience and development, but even in this example, I just fail to see how Diakite can eradicate the problems in his make up to succeed at this level. He's extremely likeable, has potential, but is horrendously raw. I think it's too late for him personally and he is unfortunately a liability that you can't rely on. I saw him play a couple of times in pre-season, and while some of his play was eye-catching, I didn't really see anything that suggested he's learned from the flaws in his game, and sadly they are very serious flaws that are likely to cause the team problems. I think he lacks mentally, technically and tactically. It's just too much ground to make up, even if he has excellent physical attributes and one or two technical abilities that combine well with his physical strengths. Personally I would never trust him in the centre of midfield. I said a long time ago that perhaps his best position for the team would be right-back, and if I had to play him, that's where I'd think about putting him. The reason being is simple. He is wild with his style, especially in open play where he can go in any direction. On the right, he'd be restricted to forwards and in field, lessening the decisions he needs to make and the amount of options for decision making. This simplification can help him improve, while at the same time, make use of some of his strengths, which is his ability to surge forwards, both with and without the ball. He'd need to work on his crossing though, but as he'd have less space to operate in in terms of defensive duties, it'd also help him improve and focus his tackling and blocks into concentrated areas of the pitch. Maybe even then, he could return to midfield if he could improve some of those basics and take them into his game into other positions on the pitch. [Post edited 19 Aug 2015 0:57]
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I admire your long posts - I do - but surely this could be put much more succinctly; Everybody wet bikini | |
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samba diakite? on 10:35 - Aug 19 with 5561 views | Northernr | I suspect if he ever was picked we'd quickly realise why it's a bad idea. He's a liability unfortunately. | | | |
samba diakite? on 10:39 - Aug 19 with 5545 views | Watford_Ranger | If he was 19 I'd stick with him and try and build a proper footballer from the raw materials he has. He's nearly 27 and should be at his peak yet has about 100 career appearances across his many years as a professional footballer. Just seems too big a risk for the possible reward. Save him for when we get Chelsea in the cup. Apart from that, not for me. | | | |
samba diakite? on 10:45 - Aug 19 with 5530 views | QPunkR | Bah! You lot ain't no fun! | |
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samba diakite? on 10:48 - Aug 19 with 5510 views | Hooparoo | Take him to the Vet and have him put down. It's the kindest thing to do. | |
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samba diakite? on 10:52 - Aug 19 with 5497 views | PhilmyRs |
samba diakite? on 10:35 - Aug 19 by Northernr | I suspect if he ever was picked we'd quickly realise why it's a bad idea. He's a liability unfortunately. |
While I agree to an extent, I remember thinking at the time (his first season) and the role he played, specifically against Arsenal, he was anything but a liability. He was a match winner. I wonder how someone that performed to that level, in a key game, kept his head and played some excellent football, can regress to a level where people are claiming he’s beyond help and will never eradicate his flaws. That’s not a criticism by the way, as I too think it may be too late for Samba, I just find it a mystery that someone with genuine skill, an ability to ghost by players, good fitness and speed, has never been able to learn about the game. It’s almost as if the hard parts of Football, which people struggle with such as beating a man (not physically!) with the ball, is something he can do so effortlessly but knowing when to stand up and not dive in, knowing where he should be on the pitch in certain situations during a game are concepts he just can’t grasp. I’ve always assumed they’re the easy stuff you can teach people, it’s the natural ability you can’t. Having had Samba now for 3 years, he’s made me change my mind. Shame. | | | |
samba diakite? on 11:02 - Aug 19 with 5456 views | Northernr |
samba diakite? on 10:52 - Aug 19 by PhilmyRs | While I agree to an extent, I remember thinking at the time (his first season) and the role he played, specifically against Arsenal, he was anything but a liability. He was a match winner. I wonder how someone that performed to that level, in a key game, kept his head and played some excellent football, can regress to a level where people are claiming he’s beyond help and will never eradicate his flaws. That’s not a criticism by the way, as I too think it may be too late for Samba, I just find it a mystery that someone with genuine skill, an ability to ghost by players, good fitness and speed, has never been able to learn about the game. It’s almost as if the hard parts of Football, which people struggle with such as beating a man (not physically!) with the ball, is something he can do so effortlessly but knowing when to stand up and not dive in, knowing where he should be on the pitch in certain situations during a game are concepts he just can’t grasp. I’ve always assumed they’re the easy stuff you can teach people, it’s the natural ability you can’t. Having had Samba now for 3 years, he’s made me change my mind. Shame. |
Yes he was terrific against Arsenal, but the Fulham game was before that when he only lasted 33 minutes and was lucky to manage that. I don't think he has regressed, I think that Arsenal game - in hindsight, because I thought he was going to be brilliant too - was a dog having its day. | | | |
samba diakite? on 11:10 - Aug 19 with 5433 views | PhilmyRs |
samba diakite? on 11:02 - Aug 19 by Northernr | Yes he was terrific against Arsenal, but the Fulham game was before that when he only lasted 33 minutes and was lucky to manage that. I don't think he has regressed, I think that Arsenal game - in hindsight, because I thought he was going to be brilliant too - was a dog having its day. |
True, although I actually thought (mentalness aside), he showed a lot of potential in the Fulham game with the ball at his feet. It was the off the ball recklessness which was the problem. I assumed this sort of thing was easy to coach out of someone and the natural ability they had would win the day. As I said, Samba has proved me wrong. | | | |
samba diakite? on 11:13 - Aug 19 with 5418 views | adhoc_qpr |
samba diakite? on 11:02 - Aug 19 by Northernr | Yes he was terrific against Arsenal, but the Fulham game was before that when he only lasted 33 minutes and was lucky to manage that. I don't think he has regressed, I think that Arsenal game - in hindsight, because I thought he was going to be brilliant too - was a dog having its day. |
But he has made 23 appearances for us, 11 for Watford, 7 for ittihad and has 19 caps for Mali - he's been sent off what 3 times? Surely he can't be that bad now. He has brilliant against Arsenal, but he was also decent enough in various other games during that loan spell. After joining, he was shocking against Swansea and Norwich i remember - but not notably worse than his other 10 team mates? | | | |
samba diakite? on 11:36 - Aug 19 with 5388 views | jamois | Diakite or Karl Henry? | |
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samba diakite? on 11:45 - Aug 19 with 5378 views | Toast_R | Get him on the pitch, I'll paid good money to watch him again. | | | |
samba diakite? on 11:55 - Aug 19 with 5364 views | Northernr |
samba diakite? on 11:13 - Aug 19 by adhoc_qpr | But he has made 23 appearances for us, 11 for Watford, 7 for ittihad and has 19 caps for Mali - he's been sent off what 3 times? Surely he can't be that bad now. He has brilliant against Arsenal, but he was also decent enough in various other games during that loan spell. After joining, he was shocking against Swansea and Norwich i remember - but not notably worse than his other 10 team mates? |
11 appearances for Watford? He started once, and was sent off. He never started again and only made five sub appearances. They looked into sending him back early. My Watford season ticket holder at work says he's one of the worst Watford players he's ever seen. 7 for Ittihad - even if that is accurate does 7 appearances in an awful standard of football over an entire season not ring a few alarm bells? In total, by age 26, he has made just 52 starts in European football. If you're looking for a stick to beat Chris Ramsey with, not picking Samba Diakite shouldn't be one of them.
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samba diakite? on 11:57 - Aug 19 with 5350 views | QPunkR |
samba diakite? on 11:55 - Aug 19 by Northernr | 11 appearances for Watford? He started once, and was sent off. He never started again and only made five sub appearances. They looked into sending him back early. My Watford season ticket holder at work says he's one of the worst Watford players he's ever seen. 7 for Ittihad - even if that is accurate does 7 appearances in an awful standard of football over an entire season not ring a few alarm bells? In total, by age 26, he has made just 52 starts in European football. If you're looking for a stick to beat Chris Ramsey with, not picking Samba Diakite shouldn't be one of them.
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That's 'cos they're all bloody philistines!! | |
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samba diakite? on 12:02 - Aug 19 with 5342 views | parker64 | I went and watched him in an U21 game last season. The youngsters in the side were telling him what to do. I knew it was up for him that day. The Arsenal game will be one of those games that I'll always remember though. | | | |
samba diakite? on 12:06 - Aug 19 with 5329 views | Watford_Ranger |
samba diakite? on 11:36 - Aug 19 by jamois | Diakite or Karl Henry? |
Henry is an extremely limited footballer to say the least but you know what you'll get. Say we lose tonight (realistic) and put Diakite in in what becomes an important game on Saturday. Can anyone be confident at all that he's physically and mentally ready for Championship football? I wouldn't have Henry in the team either, but I'd have him in ahead of Diakite. | | | |
samba diakite? on 12:10 - Aug 19 with 2000 views | adhoc_qpr |
samba diakite? on 11:55 - Aug 19 by Northernr | 11 appearances for Watford? He started once, and was sent off. He never started again and only made five sub appearances. They looked into sending him back early. My Watford season ticket holder at work says he's one of the worst Watford players he's ever seen. 7 for Ittihad - even if that is accurate does 7 appearances in an awful standard of football over an entire season not ring a few alarm bells? In total, by age 26, he has made just 52 starts in European football. If you're looking for a stick to beat Chris Ramsey with, not picking Samba Diakite shouldn't be one of them.
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Just going off wikipedia to be honest! Not digging at Ramsey for Diakite at all, he's just a genuine puzzle for me and a shame because we still lack any midfielder with the sheer dynamism he's showed in flashes. | | | |
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