| In the Refs face 08:54 - Jan 22 with 4135 views | Capt_Koons |
After JWP 'scored' there were 11 Villa players in the refs face arguing their point. Now I'm not saying they influenced the VAR guys or the referee but it didn't hurt. I don't like to see that sort of pressure put on a ref, but seeing as it can influence the weaker refs why the fùck don't we do it ever??? |  |
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| In the Refs face on 09:24 - Jan 22 with 3405 views | grumpy |
I said early on those Villa players when touched went down like a pack of cards.
The Ref should have seen that,he was weak yesterday. |  | | |
| In the Refs face on 11:14 - Jan 22 with 3280 views | kingslandstand1 |
The ref was weak yesterday, and I'd go as far as to say you are wrong Capt regarding the Villa players influencing the ref I'm afraid.
I honestly believe it did as well as influencing the VAR. For it to take that long to go to the monitor was unbelievable, Christ, we even had the announcement that it was another JWP goal to allow the celebrations to continue and I'm sure the announcers are told to delay jumping in for a while to allow any VAR decisions to take place
Wasn't it an official remit now that following incidents last season similar to that that this behaviour is to be outlawed?? Ok, one of their players got booked, but ffs, they got the desired affect and the goal was disallowed
I will fess that I haven't seen the "foul", but no way was it clear and obvious and those decisions could send us down (as well as the ineptitude of NJ of course) |  | | |
| In the Refs face on 12:04 - Jan 22 with 3210 views | cocklebreath |
I thought when our nasty little Welsh man turned up the first thing he’d do is turn us into exactly that but it seems we are still far too nice |  |
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| In the Refs face on 12:08 - Jan 22 with 3219 views | Chesham_Saint |
And that is another reason m aking me re-evaluate why I spend so much time, money and effort on a sport where incosistency and incompetnece is everywhere and with corruption all-pervading at the very highesdt levels.
They really do think fans in general are absoulte mugs. |  |
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| In the Refs face on 16:58 - Jan 22 with 2992 views | SFC_Referee |
Unfortunately though he got all the major decisions right!
As I wasn’t at the game so can’t comment on how he was for the 90 minutes, but for what I saw on MOTD and the highlights, him and VAR got all their major decisions correct |  |
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| In the Refs face on 17:04 - Jan 22 with 2984 views | grumpy |
| In the Refs face on 16:58 - Jan 22 by SFC_Referee |
Unfortunately though he got all the major decisions right!
As I wasn’t at the game so can’t comment on how he was for the 90 minutes, but for what I saw on MOTD and the highlights, him and VAR got all their major decisions correct |
Villa player was hardly touched and fell over as if he was poleaxed. | | | |
| In the Refs face on 17:08 - Jan 22 with 2969 views | SFC_Referee |
| In the Refs face on 17:04 - Jan 22 by grumpy |
Villa player was hardly touched and fell over as if he was poleaxed. |
If you watch the replay again, you can see that Elynousie stamps on the back of his heel, which is why he goes down. And in todays game with VAR it was always gonna be given as a foul, which is why even the usual lot on MOTD (who always love to criticise officials) agreed that it was right | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:13 - Jan 22 with 2958 views | Southamptonfan |
| In the Refs face on 17:08 - Jan 22 by SFC_Referee |
If you watch the replay again, you can see that Elynousie stamps on the back of his heel, which is why he goes down. And in todays game with VAR it was always gonna be given as a foul, which is why even the usual lot on MOTD (who always love to criticise officials) agreed that it was right |
It was a foul without a doubt. It wasn't the push it was the stamp on his ankle. The ref got it right and our other goal was offside too unfortunately. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 17:14]
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| In the Refs face on 17:14 - Jan 22 with 2955 views | Capt_Koons |
| In the Refs face on 16:58 - Jan 22 by SFC_Referee |
Unfortunately though he got all the major decisions right!
As I wasn’t at the game so can’t comment on how he was for the 90 minutes, but for what I saw on MOTD and the highlights, him and VAR got all their major decisions correct |
You're missing the point. Wether it was or wasn't a foul isn't the point. The point is the pressure the 11 villa players mobbing the referee made sure they got the decision they wanted. Our players wouldn't have got into the refs face to put that pressure on and a different outcome may have come to pads. | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:15 - Jan 22 with 2953 views | grumpy |
| In the Refs face on 17:08 - Jan 22 by SFC_Referee |
If you watch the replay again, you can see that Elynousie stamps on the back of his heel, which is why he goes down. And in todays game with VAR it was always gonna be given as a foul, which is why even the usual lot on MOTD (who always love to criticise officials) agreed that it was right |
I have watched it plenty of times,yes they collided but not intentionally couldn't see Elynousie trying to stamp on the Villas players foot.The player made the most of it,you could see when he was down that all he was interested in was where the ball was,so he could roll about to get the refs attention. | | | |
| In the Refs face on 17:18 - Jan 22 with 2948 views | Southamptonfan |
| In the Refs face on 17:14 - Jan 22 by Capt_Koons |
You're missing the point. Wether it was or wasn't a foul isn't the point. The point is the pressure the 11 villa players mobbing the referee made sure they got the decision they wanted. Our players wouldn't have got into the refs face to put that pressure on and a different outcome may have come to pads. |
Well they should get in the refs face. We are too nice. | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:20 - Jan 22 with 2945 views | Southamptonfan |
| In the Refs face on 17:15 - Jan 22 by grumpy |
I have watched it plenty of times,yes they collided but not intentionally couldn't see Elynousie trying to stamp on the Villas players foot.The player made the most of it,you could see when he was down that all he was interested in was where the ball was,so he could roll about to get the refs attention. |
He definitely did stamp on his foot, it was pointed out on MOTD and all the pundits agreed it was a foul. Our players arn't particularly clever. | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:27 - Jan 22 with 2937 views | grumpy |
| In the Refs face on 17:20 - Jan 22 by Southamptonfan |
He definitely did stamp on his foot, it was pointed out on MOTD and all the pundits agreed it was a foul. Our players arn't particularly clever. |
To make out he stamped on his foot is make out he intentionally did it,there was nothing in it,the Villa player reacted as if he had been bitten by a White Shark. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 17:27]
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| In the Refs face on 17:33 - Jan 22 with 2926 views | SFC_Referee |
| In the Refs face on 17:14 - Jan 22 by Capt_Koons |
You're missing the point. Wether it was or wasn't a foul isn't the point. The point is the pressure the 11 villa players mobbing the referee made sure they got the decision they wanted. Our players wouldn't have got into the refs face to put that pressure on and a different outcome may have come to pads. |
Yeah well really the refs and FA should be doing more about that and giving out harsher disciplinary action towards players who do that (as dissent has been an issue in the top leagues for ages now!) as it shouldn’t be happening.
It’s just my point is that it didn’t influence any of the major decisions (or at least shouldn’t have) as they were all the correct decisions | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:36 - Jan 22 with 2921 views | SFC_Referee |
| In the Refs face on 17:15 - Jan 22 by grumpy |
I have watched it plenty of times,yes they collided but not intentionally couldn't see Elynousie trying to stamp on the Villas players foot.The player made the most of it,you could see when he was down that all he was interested in was where the ball was,so he could roll about to get the refs attention. |
Yeah I agree that he’s looking for it and has probably gone down easily, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a foul, as it still is one. As I’m sure that if one of their forwards had stamped on the heels of one of our lot when they had their free kick and VAR had done nothing that many on here would’ve gone ballistic about it.
As all the rolling about and that is just how pathetic the players have made todays game, but unfortunately is just the way it is | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:36 - Jan 22 with 2918 views | Southamptonfan |
| In the Refs face on 17:27 - Jan 22 by grumpy |
To make out he stamped on his foot is make out he intentionally did it,there was nothing in it,the Villa player reacted as if he had been bitten by a White Shark. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 17:27]
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Nah, that was a foul. I'm the first to slam referees if they are clearly wrong, but you can't stamp on a player's ankle and get away with it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/football-news | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:40 - Jan 22 with 2917 views | SFC_Referee |
| In the Refs face on 17:27 - Jan 22 by grumpy |
To make out he stamped on his foot is make out he intentionally did it,there was nothing in it,the Villa player reacted as if he had been bitten by a White Shark. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 17:27]
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Ok but intent makes no difference at all in situations like that (as off the top of my head the only time intent matters is handballs and violent conduct) as it’s the exact same outcome whether it’s intentional or not, and is why the gaol was unfortunately ruled out by VAR. | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:41 - Jan 22 with 2916 views | grumpy |
Nah! Its the modern games view of it. | | | |
| In the Refs face on 08:08 - Jan 23 with 2715 views | GRIM |
Football could learn so much from Rugby.
You don't see professional Rugby players getting in the refs face & challenge decisions.
In Rugby players respect the officials & know that they cannot influence the refs decisions.
Football refs seem to encourage players to confront them, they should yellow card every player that gets in his face, but they won't, its another example of player power in Football. | | | |
| In the Refs face on 09:31 - Jan 23 with 2654 views | A_Saint_in_Stoke |
We're too nice !!! .... JWP is brilliant -- but not A LEADER ... God how we miss an Oriol Romeu or a Font - Characters with BOOMING VOICES ......... Telling and organizing our defence - at set pieces. | |
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| In the Refs face on 17:27 - Jan 23 with 2530 views | Capt_Koons |
| In the Refs face on 08:08 - Jan 23 by GRIM |
Football could learn so much from Rugby.
You don't see professional Rugby players getting in the refs face & challenge decisions.
In Rugby players respect the officials & know that they cannot influence the refs decisions.
Football refs seem to encourage players to confront them, they should yellow card every player that gets in his face, but they won't, its another example of player power in Football. |
I agree with you completely. However while it is still acceptable to hassle the ref, and every other club does it and gets results, unless we do too we're putting ourselves at a disadvantage | |
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| In the Refs face on 21:44 - Jan 23 with 2455 views | SFC_Referee |
| In the Refs face on 08:08 - Jan 23 by GRIM |
Football could learn so much from Rugby.
You don't see professional Rugby players getting in the refs face & challenge decisions.
In Rugby players respect the officials & know that they cannot influence the refs decisions.
Football refs seem to encourage players to confront them, they should yellow card every player that gets in his face, but they won't, its another example of player power in Football. |
Yeah spot on, but that’s the difference at the end of the day, the RFU actually give a toss about their officials and sort out their posts issues, whilst IFAB and the FA don’t!
As the only thing they’ve ever really done around dissent and such is introducing the sin bin, but even then that’s only for grassroots and only the lowest semi pro leagues in the country! | |
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| In the Refs face on 21:45 - Jan 23 with 2453 views | PatfromPoole |
| In the Refs face on 17:27 - Jan 23 by Capt_Koons |
I agree with you completely. However while it is still acceptable to hassle the ref, and every other club does it and gets results, unless we do too we're putting ourselves at a disadvantage |
Saintsy. |  |
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| In the Refs face on 00:12 - Jan 25 with 2343 views | darthvader |
| In the Refs face on 17:27 - Jan 22 by grumpy |
To make out he stamped on his foot is make out he intentionally did it,there was nothing in it,the Villa player reacted as if he had been bitten by a White Shark. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 17:27]
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Great....great white shark... Pretty much the same tonight with the dirty cheating northern bast. Ardz
Ref was bias again. Getting caught up in the Toon hype. That Pope bloke should have been red carded for a bloody start |  |
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