| The Labour Party & Football Governance 22:40 - Oct 6 with 11338 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Corbyn: Football clubs are ‘too important to be left in the hands of bad owners’
The Labour leader promises to empower fans over how their clubs are run
Jeremy Corbyn, Newcastle MP Chi Onwurah (centre right) and Labour Party chair Ian Lavery (centre left) meet NUFC Ashley Out supporters after his speech at the Newcastle City Hall
LABOUR leader Jeremy Corbyn is to call for football fans to be given a much greater say on how their clubs are run, promising that a Labour government would empower fans and communities and review football governance.
Football clubs are “too important to be left in the hands of bad owners,” Corbyn said at the weekend after meeting with Newcastle United Football Club fans campaigning against the club’s owner Mike Ashley.
“A football club is more than just a club, it is an institution at the heart of our communities. Clubs are part of the social fabric that binds us together.”
The Arsenal season ticket holder said “bad owners like Mike Ashley... put their business interests ahead of everything else, marginalise supporters and even put the financial security of clubs at risk.
“Sport must be run in the interests of those who participate in it, follow it and love it, not just for the privileged and wealthy few.
“We will ensure that supporters have a say over how their club is run and review how fans can have more of a say about how all of our sporting bodies are run.”
Under the party’s new plans football supporters’ trusts would be able to purchase shares when clubs change hands and have the power to appoint, and fire, at least two members of a club’s board of directors.
Labour says it has also pledged to review fan participation in sports governance at all levels, and ensure that the Premier League invests 5 per cent of the income it receives for television rights into grassroots football to improve facilities and pitches and support the next generation of players and coaches.
Corbyn also called on football clubs to guarantee to pay their staff the living wage, ban zero-hours contracts and improve access provision for disabled sports fans.
The party’s plans also include cracking down on ticket-tout websites which vastly inflated match day prices, and implement the consumer protection measures outlined in the 2016 Waterson Review.
Women’s sporting events, including the Women’s Football World, will be added to the list of key sporting events to be broadcast free-to-air, the party said.
Labour’s Community Organising Unit is currently working with Newcastle United Football Club fans to organise against billionaire owner Mike Ashley, with thousands of fans boycotting the club’s games in protest against the greedy billionaire. |  | | |  |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:06 - Oct 8 with 1806 views | Rangersw12 |
Sounds like a good idea to me |  | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:39 - Oct 8 with 1774 views | DavieQPR |
Fed up of hearing about investment in grass root football. This has meant to be happening every year but local teams are still paying exorbitant fees for pitches.
If it lands up like a lot of Socialist Schools you will not have goals as there is not meant to be any losers. |  | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:52 - Oct 8 with 1768 views | kensalriser |
I've never heard of Socialist schools. Where are they? |  |
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| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 21:06 - Oct 8 with 1739 views | QPR_Jim |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:39 - Oct 8 by DavieQPR |
Fed up of hearing about investment in grass root football. This has meant to be happening every year but local teams are still paying exorbitant fees for pitches.
If it lands up like a lot of Socialist Schools you will not have goals as there is not meant to be any losers. |
I'm not sure I follow, you're in favour of investment in grass roots football but you don't want to hear about it anymore and you don't seem open to the idea of a policy to force the premier League to invest in grassroots football.
Tbh what Corbyn is suggesting is what most fans would want. I'd imagine in an ideal world he wouldn't want to get involved but the current governing bodies in football are absolutely useless and overseeing the shambles we have today. So fair play to him. |  | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 21:35 - Oct 8 with 1731 views | distortR |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:52 - Oct 8 by kensalriser |
I've never heard of Socialist schools. Where are they? |
it's a slippery slope.
socialist schools lead to communist colleges.
No university because they are too elitist, and definitely not because i can't be arsed to find an alliteration. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 22:13 - Oct 8 with 1691 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:52 - Oct 8 by kensalriser |
I've never heard of Socialist schools. Where are they? |
I know what a Socialist Stool is though, I did one this morning after a large coffee. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 22:16 - Oct 8 with 1688 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 21:35 - Oct 8 by distortR |
it's a slippery slope.
socialist schools lead to communist colleges.
No university because they are too elitist, and definitely not because i can't be arsed to find an alliteration. |
Don't forget Proletariat Playgroup. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 23:29 - Oct 8 with 1661 views | Miss_Terraces |
Every election I have voted in, I have voted labour.
I am 41 years old, other than my first year, I have never lived under a true labour party. Why? The answer is because we can't unite against the tories.
The choice would be left versus right, the left would win. labour, liberal democrats, green party, snp and plaid cymru together would destroy the tories.
corbyn can promise what ever, it doesn't matter, he's not getting in. | |
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| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 09:09 - Oct 9 with 1598 views | runningman75 |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 23:29 - Oct 8 by Miss_Terraces |
Every election I have voted in, I have voted labour.
I am 41 years old, other than my first year, I have never lived under a true labour party. Why? The answer is because we can't unite against the tories.
The choice would be left versus right, the left would win. labour, liberal democrats, green party, snp and plaid cymru together would destroy the tories.
corbyn can promise what ever, it doesn't matter, he's not getting in. |
I am slightly older than you. Always voted Labour apart from 2010 voted Lib Dems as did not like the way that New Labour were operating. Thought Clegg sounded fresh and had interesting ideas until jumping in bed with the Tories and lying to students. I voted remain in the referendum but do not like the Lib Dems ignoring leavers and Tories ignoring remainers so may hold my nose and go back to Labour. There is great potential in the Labour party but Corbyn is not a leader. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 12:10 - Oct 9 with 1524 views | kensalriser |
Who's proposed the government buying out half (or any of) the clubs in the country? | |
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| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 12:57 - Oct 9 with 1473 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
I suspect you are being wilfully ignorant but I’ll bite anyway.
The 50+1 wouldn’t be government owned, it would be owned by supporter associations and the like. Think of our own LSA. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 15:25 - Oct 9 with 1363 views | Sharpy36 |
I think this has legs, you only have to cast your minds back a few short years and remember the Ebbsfleet model, it worked out so well. |  |
| 'You didn't know that was wrong, but now you do. If you do it again, I'll know you are doing it on purpose.' |
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| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 15:32 - Oct 9 with 1356 views | kensalriser |
You seem to be arguing against things you've made up.. | |
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| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 15:42 - Oct 9 with 1350 views | Match82 |
I'm all for the idea but not entirely sure why corbyn is involved. |  | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 16:37 - Oct 9 with 1307 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 15:42 - Oct 9 by Match82 |
I'm all for the idea but not entirely sure why corbyn is involved. |
It is traditional for Labour Leaders to be involved with Labour Policy. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 17:20 - Oct 9 with 1275 views | stevec |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 16:37 - Oct 9 by BazzaInTheLoft |
It is traditional for Labour Leaders to be involved with Labour Policy. |
Out of interest Baz, if your model had been in place when the EFL hit the club with a £20 million fine and another £20 million for the owner to cover in some form, how much for instance would the elected supporters picked up from that bill?
I’m guessing nowt.
This is the problem with Labour Party policy, what to do when you run out of other people’s money. |  | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 17:33 - Oct 9 with 1262 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 17:20 - Oct 9 by stevec |
Out of interest Baz, if your model had been in place when the EFL hit the club with a £20 million fine and another £20 million for the owner to cover in some form, how much for instance would the elected supporters picked up from that bill?
I’m guessing nowt.
This is the problem with Labour Party policy, what to do when you run out of other people’s money. |
I don’t think you understand the Policy Steve. What you said makes no sense, and has a ripped off quote attached to the end of it. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:04 - Oct 9 with 1243 views | QPR_John |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 17:33 - Oct 9 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I don’t think you understand the Policy Steve. What you said makes no sense, and has a ripped off quote attached to the end of it. |
"LABOUR leader Jeremy Corbyn is to call for football fans to be given a much greater say on how their clubs are run, promising that a Labour government would empower fans and communities and review football governance. "
How can you have a say without having a financial involvement. [Post edited 9 Oct 2019 18:06]
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| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:43 - Oct 9 with 1229 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:04 - Oct 9 by QPR_John |
"LABOUR leader Jeremy Corbyn is to call for football fans to be given a much greater say on how their clubs are run, promising that a Labour government would empower fans and communities and review football governance. "
How can you have a say without having a financial involvement. [Post edited 9 Oct 2019 18:06]
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Just because you are a director on a board, doesn’t mean you have to have financial involvement.
It’s about governance more than ownership.
QPR have directors who do not have shares. It’s not controversial. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:53 - Oct 9 with 1220 views | stevec |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 17:33 - Oct 9 by BazzaInTheLoft |
I don’t think you understand the Policy Steve. What you said makes no sense, and has a ripped off quote attached to the end of it. |
Ha ha ha, that's a cop out Baz and you know it.
So the supporters on the Board get all the benefits without ever having to dip into their own pockets when things go a bit pear shaped. Seriously, what planet are you on.
Do you guys in your party EVER take financial responsibility for anything?? It must be a wonderful world your mind inhabits, where you get to spend everybody else's money but never your own. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:57 - Oct 9 with 1217 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:53 - Oct 9 by stevec |
Ha ha ha, that's a cop out Baz and you know it.
So the supporters on the Board get all the benefits without ever having to dip into their own pockets when things go a bit pear shaped. Seriously, what planet are you on.
Do you guys in your party EVER take financial responsibility for anything?? It must be a wonderful world your mind inhabits, where you get to spend everybody else's money but never your own. |
What is the difference between a non fiscal contributing Jamie Reuben being on our board and a non fiscal contributing supporter? The supporter would actually commit more cash to QPR every Saturday than billionaire property tycoon Jamie Reuben ever will.
*Edited: apologies Steve. [Post edited 9 Oct 2019 19:35]
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| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:24 - Oct 9 with 1819 views | stevec |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 18:57 - Oct 9 by BazzaInTheLoft |
What is the difference between a non fiscal contributing Jamie Reuben being on our board and a non fiscal contributing supporter? The supporter would actually commit more cash to QPR every Saturday than billionaire property tycoon Jamie Reuben ever will.
*Edited: apologies Steve. [Post edited 9 Oct 2019 19:35]
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Well first off, I’d never even heard of James Reuben till you mentioned him.
But in line with my earlier comments, if he’s not prepared to contribute financially then I don’t want him on the Board either. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:34 - Oct 9 with 1808 views | Rangersw12 |
Why are you against fan representation on the board?
You seem to be picking holes in it because it's a Labour idea | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:36 - Oct 9 with 1795 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:24 - Oct 9 by stevec |
Well first off, I’d never even heard of James Reuben till you mentioned him.
But in line with my earlier comments, if he’s not prepared to contribute financially then I don’t want him on the Board either. |
Your are loyal to your point and hatred of Labour I’ll give you that. | | | |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 20:27 - Oct 9 with 1769 views | stevec |
| The Labour Party & Football Governance on 19:34 - Oct 9 by Rangersw12 |
Why are you against fan representation on the board?
You seem to be picking holes in it because it's a Labour idea |
Largely because I prefer a Board that has financial responsibility for the decisions it makes, losing money tends to concentrate the mind.
When you don’t have a financial interest it’s easy to go on the likes of twitter lambasting the club for not spending a fortune on the new Charlie Austin, or the old one for that matter. What says the same people would think any different if they suddenly found themselves on the Board?
Then there’s the opposite issue. The fan who is sensible, suddenly finds himself in a position of influence, then after being introduced to Les, to Hoos and various other club luminaries, finds himself hanging on their every word and effectively becomes a useful stooge justifying even the most ridiculous club decisions.
Unfortunately that is the reality, which one of those people would any of us be, could we be certain we’d be any different?
Whatever any of us think of TF, where his decisions had an adverse effect on the club we support there is at least the knowledge that what it cost us in various emotions it cost him a lot more financially, and big time. | | | |
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