| James McLean 15:13 - Nov 10 with 13992 views | Hayesender |
Apparently dropped by Wigan today for refusing to wear a poppy.
Now although I think he is an absolute c@#t for doing so, should he or anyone be forced to do something against their will?
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| James McLean on 15:22 - Nov 10 with 7282 views | WeaverQPR |
Thats why he will always be a chunt. |  |
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| James McLean on 15:24 - Nov 10 with 7273 views | komradkirk |
I am sure we will hear his take on things before long. |  | | |
| James McLean on 15:24 - Nov 10 with 7272 views | themodfather |
his choice, whatever his reason, someone in his family is likely to have served in one of the forces.
i think he's a charlie uniform november tango. |  | | |
| James McLean on 15:28 - Nov 10 with 7234 views | Hayesender |
Its estimated 35000 Irishmen died in ww1.
He should be reminded of this fact! | |
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| James McLean on 15:33 - Nov 10 with 7207 views | WeaverQPR |
Does he support Celtic? | |
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| James McLean on 15:34 - Nov 10 with 7204 views | QPRMUSO |
I hope opposing fans boo him from now on - jerk! | | | |
| James McLean on 15:36 - Nov 10 with 7195 views | BklynRanger |
If it was some kind of club policy I could see a problem. If its the decision of the manager then that's a bit of a different thing I suppose.
It's a tricky one anyway, I'm far from being in agreement with McLean, but I can understand why he wouldn't want to wear a poppy. Saying that though, he's far too young to be giving it the big one. |  | | |
| James McLean on 15:52 - Nov 10 with 7142 views | Bigears |
Shouldn't drop him for that as that are his veiws, but if his team mates refused to play with him, or he may have refused to do the minutes silence.
But what a thick idiot if he has, as poppy and remembrance days is not remembering just the British people lost, but for ALL men and women who lost their lives for us to live as we do today. Maybe someone should educate the thick idiot... | | | |
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| James McLean on 15:56 - Nov 10 with 7116 views | distortR |
If it's a republican thing, then maybe he should think twice about living and earning in England? I could not accept that off one of our players. | | | |
| James McLean on 16:14 - Nov 10 with 7032 views | kensalriser |
Completely unacceptable. Whether or not he wears a poppy has nothing to do with how he performs his job. |  |
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| James McLean on 16:25 - Nov 10 with 6986 views | distortR |
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| James McLean on 16:46 - Nov 10 with 6913 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Why would refusing to wear a poppy necessarily make him a republican? He might not be one. I really don't know if he is. And why is being a republican a bad thing?
I am a republican, a pacifist, and would never wear a poppy. I respect those that do and would expect to have my decision not to wear one respected in return.
Like McLean I am Irish, but I have English friends who are English republicans, pacifists and non-poppy wearers. |  |
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| James McLean on 16:46 - Nov 10 with 6908 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Cleverly put! | |
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| James McLean on 17:02 - Nov 10 with 6843 views | QPRDave |
If there are poppies on the rest of his teams shirts then his employer obviously supports this cause and as such has added it to his employees "uniform" for 1 day .....he should do as he's told, he's paid enough |  | | |
| James McLean on 17:09 - Nov 10 with 6796 views | jonno |
| James McLean on 15:36 - Nov 10 by BklynRanger |
If it was some kind of club policy I could see a problem. If its the decision of the manager then that's a bit of a different thing I suppose.
It's a tricky one anyway, I'm far from being in agreement with McLean, but I can understand why he wouldn't want to wear a poppy. Saying that though, he's far too young to be giving it the big one. |
Out of interest - why do you think someone would not want to wear a poppy? |  | | |
| James McLean on 17:12 - Nov 10 with 6777 views | distortR |
it was, but this is about respecting the traditions of the country you live in, and primarily respecting the sacrifices made by others so that one can enjoy the freedoms that we have. You know what? I'm on the republican, pacifist side of things, but as I said, this is about commemorating those who gave their lives for all our futures, and not condoning government.
So do one, Brian  | | | |
| James McLean on 17:13 - Nov 10 with 6772 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| James McLean on 17:12 - Nov 10 by distortR |
it was, but this is about respecting the traditions of the country you live in, and primarily respecting the sacrifices made by others so that one can enjoy the freedoms that we have. You know what? I'm on the republican, pacifist side of things, but as I said, this is about commemorating those who gave their lives for all our futures, and not condoning government.
So do one, Brian |
Now, now, distortR!
How are you, kid? | |
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| James McLean on 17:14 - Nov 10 with 6768 views | THEBUSH |
| James McLean on 16:46 - Nov 10 by BrianMcCarthy |
Why would refusing to wear a poppy necessarily make him a republican? He might not be one. I really don't know if he is. And why is being a republican a bad thing?
I am a republican, a pacifist, and would never wear a poppy. I respect those that do and would expect to have my decision not to wear one respected in return.
Like McLean I am Irish, but I have English friends who are English republicans, pacifists and non-poppy wearers. |
Mclean plays for Wigan, they pay his wages, all the team shirts have poppy's printed on them, it's a team game, whether he's Irish, English or whatever has nothing to do with playing football, leave personal feelings out of it, just play the game !! |  | | |
| James McLean on 17:15 - Nov 10 with 6756 views | BexleyQPR |
| James McLean on 17:02 - Nov 10 by QPRDave |
If there are poppies on the rest of his teams shirts then his employer obviously supports this cause and as such has added it to his employees "uniform" for 1 day .....he should do as he's told, he's paid enough |
As a freeborn Englishman I support James McLean's right not to wear a poppy. Since when has not wearing a poppy been a crime? Fair play to McLean.
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| James McLean on 17:20 - Nov 10 with 6739 views | distortR |
| James McLean on 17:15 - Nov 10 by BexleyQPR |
As a freeborn Englishman I support James McLean's right not to wear a poppy. Since when has not wearing a poppy been a crime? Fair play to McLean.
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Not a crime, just disrespectful to a whole host of people imho, mainly due to his high-profile occupation asdmittedly.
Freeborn? £700 for the hospital's insurance alone....
Grumpy Brian, I'm old and grumpy. And you got me started......... | | | |
| James McLean on 17:20 - Nov 10 with 6736 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| James McLean on 17:14 - Nov 10 by THEBUSH |
Mclean plays for Wigan, they pay his wages, all the team shirts have poppy's printed on them, it's a team game, whether he's Irish, English or whatever has nothing to do with playing football, leave personal feelings out of it, just play the game !! |
I agree. I'm saying that Nationality has nothing to do with it, at least not for me. I've worn a white poppy before, but I wouldn't wear a red one, and it's not because I'm Irish. That said, if (and distortR will tell you this is a stretch!) I made my living playing ball, and I felt I couldn't wear a shirt with a red poppy on it, and my club told me that they'd leave me out for the game as a result, I'd respect their decision. Not sure McLean will be so philosophical about it! | |
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| James McLean on 17:23 - Nov 10 with 6712 views | distortR |
| James McLean on 17:20 - Nov 10 by BrianMcCarthy |
I agree. I'm saying that Nationality has nothing to do with it, at least not for me. I've worn a white poppy before, but I wouldn't wear a red one, and it's not because I'm Irish. That said, if (and distortR will tell you this is a stretch!) I made my living playing ball, and I felt I couldn't wear a shirt with a red poppy on it, and my club told me that they'd leave me out for the game as a result, I'd respect their decision. Not sure McLean will be so philosophical about it! |
Bob Malcolm without the pace and vision doesn't start to do you justice. | | | |
| James McLean on 17:24 - Nov 10 with 6707 views | QPRDave |
| James McLean on 17:15 - Nov 10 by BexleyQPR |
As a freeborn Englishman I support James McLean's right not to wear a poppy. Since when has not wearing a poppy been a crime? Fair play to McLean.
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Not saying it is a crime but his team were all prepared to wear the shirt, why can't he. We the public are not interested in his opinions, he's paid very well to entertain the locals on a football pitch.
Players very often come out with we shouldn't intrude on there personal lives and just judge them on the pitch maybe mcclean can use this advice | | | |
| James McLean on 17:25 - Nov 10 with 6699 views | ted_hendrix |
All this could be easily sorted out when a player signs his contract, the player should ask for a stipulation worded into the contract along the lines "I will not wear the clubs shirt if it has the poppy emblem printed on It"
The clubs owners can then take a view whether to sign the player or not.
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