| Armstrong 22:57 - Jul 15 with 76683 views | digswellhoop |
sorry if I'm late Armstrong is a talent sign him on a long contract he will be a great player for us if nurtured properly
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| club on 23:03 - Jul 15 with 19943 views | daveB |
they've been trying to get him to sign a new deal for ages |  | | |
| club on 23:16 - Jul 15 with 19866 views | wombat |
| club on 23:03 - Jul 15 by daveB |
they've been trying to get him to sign a new deal for ages |
It seems like willock has little interest in staying with us , otherwise he would hav signed the contract that’s been on offer for a long while now |  |
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| club on 00:31 - Jul 16 with 19742 views | Northernr |
Another over active agent. No surprise that all these players are only moving to Cardiff, Bristol City, Blackburn etc - the clubs that like us specialise in finishing 16th in the Championship. Promise their clients the earth, talk them up, tell them they're worth £x, in the end... sideways move. Agent gets a nice cut every time they move. So the more sideways moves the better. |  | | |
| club on 00:49 - Jul 16 with 19687 views | StJude82 |
Does he really think that the fans at BC will tolerate a scoring rate of 1 in 34? He has had massive support, patience and empathy from us as fans. This will not be the case elsewhere. He doesn't strike me as the sort of player that will react well to a kick up the arse from his own crowd. | | | |
| club on 00:50 - Jul 16 with 19683 views | Northernr |
| club on 00:49 - Jul 16 by StJude82 |
Does he really think that the fans at BC will tolerate a scoring rate of 1 in 34? He has had massive support, patience and empathy from us as fans. This will not be the case elsewhere. He doesn't strike me as the sort of player that will react well to a kick up the arse from his own crowd. |
Which bit of that does his agent care about? | | | |
| club on 00:54 - Jul 16 with 19652 views | rbee |
| club on 23:03 - Jul 15 by daveB |
they've been trying to get him to sign a new deal for ages |
as indeed they should, currently he is a good prospect.
However to say ' he will be a great player for us if nurtured properly' is your opinion based on not a lot.
If another club offers us several million for him then I would accept it and invest it in another good prospect bearing in mind Armstrong could walk away for nothing.
I would also chance my arm by saying several million plus Nahki Wells. [Post edited 16 Jul 1:21]
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| club on 03:43 - Jul 16 with 19527 views | nix |
| club on 00:54 - Jul 16 by rbee |
as indeed they should, currently he is a good prospect.
However to say ' he will be a great player for us if nurtured properly' is your opinion based on not a lot.
If another club offers us several million for him then I would accept it and invest it in another good prospect bearing in mind Armstrong could walk away for nothing.
I would also chance my arm by saying several million plus Nahki Wells. [Post edited 16 Jul 1:21]
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I don't think anyone is going to pay several million for a player who is out of contract at the end of the season and has more potential than proven contribution.
I've really enjoyed having him in the squad but part of that is because he had pace in a team of snails so added something different. Hopefully we're addressing that a bit and won't be so glacial across the rest of the squad.
He seems like a nice lad and is fun to have around with his enthusiam and passion but I certainly wouldn't be throwing money to keep him. He really needs some time out on loan to work on aspects of his game and no-one will do that if he's only on a two year contract which is what his agent keeps persuading him to sign seemingly.
On a general point I wonder how many young players' careers greedy agents ruin by thinking about their own interests rather than the long term development of their players. |  | | |
| club on 04:30 - Jul 16 with 19461 views | numptydumpty |
| club on 03:43 - Jul 16 by nix |
I don't think anyone is going to pay several million for a player who is out of contract at the end of the season and has more potential than proven contribution.
I've really enjoyed having him in the squad but part of that is because he had pace in a team of snails so added something different. Hopefully we're addressing that a bit and won't be so glacial across the rest of the squad.
He seems like a nice lad and is fun to have around with his enthusiam and passion but I certainly wouldn't be throwing money to keep him. He really needs some time out on loan to work on aspects of his game and no-one will do that if he's only on a two year contract which is what his agent keeps persuading him to sign seemingly.
On a general point I wonder how many young players' careers greedy agents ruin by thinking about their own interests rather than the long term development of their players. |
I think as clubs seemingly in today's supposedly more savvy and more socially acceptable world we are meant to live in today as a duty of care and especially to younger players, warnings and advice to players that certain agents will not necessarily have your own personal career options in mind and for players to have some awareness that most agents are just in it for their own personal financial gain above the players long term welfare and career progression.
Loyalty also is so not a thing in football today.
Willock, I believe, will regret his decision, but Sinclair even more so. See his career stagnating. [Post edited 16 Jul 4:32]
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| club on 05:03 - Jul 16 with 19450 views | SydneyRs |
He's not even league one level yet. His agent is dreaming. | | | |
| club on 06:58 - Jul 16 with 19260 views | GroveR |
| club on 05:03 - Jul 16 by SydneyRs |
He's not even league one level yet. His agent is dreaming. |
Like Clive says, very good agent - read the article below from a few years back - it's a masterpiece of facts about big clubs mixed with speculation, conjecture and insinuendo.
It's like me writing an article about how award-winning 34yr old Australian actress Margot Robbie (all true) is rumoured to be a hot favourite in the non-existent race to toss my salad (regrettably not).
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/man-city-celtic-crystal-palace-qpr-ireland-wonde |  | | |
| club on 08:02 - Jul 16 with 19102 views | kingsburyR |
I'll keep with my view for the whole of last season.
I do not see what the infatuation is with this kid.
He cannot trap a bag of cement and has zero footballing intelligence.
How many time last season was he through on goal yet a heavy touch turns it into a 50/50 with the keeper or a back pass. And don't get me started on how many times he was caught offside if wide positions when he can see the entire oppo's back line.
Never took an interest in his youth and U23 record but ill hedge my bets by saying he used his strength like a flat track bully to out muscle defenders and bag a hatful of goals.
Any experienced defender alla Steve Cook will have seen a hundred Armstrong's and dealt with them comfortably.
I wish no bad on the kid. I hope he proves me wrong (like Eze who I thought was a lazy so and so!) and goes on to play Prem football...... I just can't see it.
If he moves on I won't lose any sleep. |  |
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| club on 08:17 - Jul 16 with 18998 views | Landshark |
| club on 08:02 - Jul 16 by kingsburyR |
I'll keep with my view for the whole of last season.
I do not see what the infatuation is with this kid.
He cannot trap a bag of cement and has zero footballing intelligence.
How many time last season was he through on goal yet a heavy touch turns it into a 50/50 with the keeper or a back pass. And don't get me started on how many times he was caught offside if wide positions when he can see the entire oppo's back line.
Never took an interest in his youth and U23 record but ill hedge my bets by saying he used his strength like a flat track bully to out muscle defenders and bag a hatful of goals.
Any experienced defender alla Steve Cook will have seen a hundred Armstrong's and dealt with them comfortably.
I wish no bad on the kid. I hope he proves me wrong (like Eze who I thought was a lazy so and so!) and goes on to play Prem football...... I just can't see it.
If he moves on I won't lose any sleep. |
That's exactly my view too. I just can't see the positives that other people see in him, he's not shown anything other than being a journeyman footballer around League Two/Non League level. Maybe it is blind faith in people, hoping there's a player in there somewhere. Maybe he's going to be a late bloomer, who knows.
Based on what I've seen on him so far, I've never been more sure of any player that there's not a footballer inside of him. As Clive said yesterday, he's a sprinter pretending to be a footballer. It's like Usain Bolt when he tried to become a footballer.
I really hope I am wrong, from the interviews I've seen of him and the way he conducts himself he seems like a really likeable chap. I hope he can make the step up, even if it is with someone else. | | | |
| club on 09:14 - Jul 16 with 18806 views | essextaxiboy |
| club on 08:17 - Jul 16 by Landshark |
That's exactly my view too. I just can't see the positives that other people see in him, he's not shown anything other than being a journeyman footballer around League Two/Non League level. Maybe it is blind faith in people, hoping there's a player in there somewhere. Maybe he's going to be a late bloomer, who knows.
Based on what I've seen on him so far, I've never been more sure of any player that there's not a footballer inside of him. As Clive said yesterday, he's a sprinter pretending to be a footballer. It's like Usain Bolt when he tried to become a footballer.
I really hope I am wrong, from the interviews I've seen of him and the way he conducts himself he seems like a really likeable chap. I hope he can make the step up, even if it is with someone else. |
Totally agree , I think he would be brilliant in Rugby League |  | | |
| club on 09:21 - Jul 16 with 18778 views | SydneyRs |
| club on 08:17 - Jul 16 by Landshark |
That's exactly my view too. I just can't see the positives that other people see in him, he's not shown anything other than being a journeyman footballer around League Two/Non League level. Maybe it is blind faith in people, hoping there's a player in there somewhere. Maybe he's going to be a late bloomer, who knows.
Based on what I've seen on him so far, I've never been more sure of any player that there's not a footballer inside of him. As Clive said yesterday, he's a sprinter pretending to be a footballer. It's like Usain Bolt when he tried to become a footballer.
I really hope I am wrong, from the interviews I've seen of him and the way he conducts himself he seems like a really likeable chap. I hope he can make the step up, even if it is with someone else. |
Sprinter pretending to be a footballer. Memories of Dominic Iorfa spring to mind. | | | |
| club on 09:34 - Jul 16 with 18690 views | TheChef |
It does feel like a Premier League glass ceiling has appeared.
Championship players only moving to other Championship clubs (and pretty much only ever a sideways move).
Seem to be even less players moving up to the Premier League. |  |
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| club on 09:40 - Jul 16 with 18658 views | robith |
| club on 00:54 - Jul 16 by rbee |
as indeed they should, currently he is a good prospect.
However to say ' he will be a great player for us if nurtured properly' is your opinion based on not a lot.
If another club offers us several million for him then I would accept it and invest it in another good prospect bearing in mind Armstrong could walk away for nothing.
I would also chance my arm by saying several million plus Nahki Wells. [Post edited 16 Jul 1:21]
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several million??????????????
You need to adjust your strain, brother
If we were offering several million for a striker who had a goal involvement once every 3.3 matches, this place would burn down |  | | |
| club on 09:41 - Jul 16 with 18679 views | kingsburyR |
English players and their agents are stuck up their own arse holes.
Why bother scouting in the Championship when all of Europe and beyond offers better value. | |
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| club on 10:14 - Jul 16 with 18529 views | rbee |
| club on 09:40 - Jul 16 by robith |
several million??????????????
You need to adjust your strain, brother
If we were offering several million for a striker who had a goal involvement once every 3.3 matches, this place would burn down |
Sorry, I thought I read that Bristol City were considering a 2m bid. I agree, that figure is too high. | | | |
| club on 10:15 - Jul 16 with 18539 views | Northernr |
If we get £2m with 12 months left on his deal we've done alright I think. | | | |
| club on 10:17 - Jul 16 with 18503 views | gazza1 |
Decent enough lad by all accounts, likeble boy.....not sure that he is the 'full ticket' though.
As for his playing skills, very limited indeed.....he gave us enough option basically but that is it. Not sure that he will ever be a regular Championship level striker. If he leaves then sobeit, not the end of the world, would be nice to get a couple of quid for him though. | | | |
| club on 10:29 - Jul 16 with 18451 views | Northernr |
One big negative is it doesn't help with our chronic lack of pace. | | | |
| club on 10:30 - Jul 16 with 18440 views | wombat |
| club on 10:15 - Jul 16 by Northernr |
If we get £2m with 12 months left on his deal we've done alright I think. |
figure being put around last night was , wait for it £250k id have thought maybe a million max with a decent sell on clause , which lets be honest wont ever be paid , | |
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| club on 10:31 - Jul 16 with 18423 views | Gloucs_R |
He clearly (possibly his agent) thinks he is better than what he is.
But in his defense, he's been poorly managed by us. We were desperate, threw him in to the deep end and put lots of hopes and dreams on him.
The reality is, he's currently a League 1 / 2 player who needs to be playing at that level, learning the game and scoring goals. Could he be a Championship striker in 2/3 years, possibly. He's certainly got a lot of the attributes but does miss some of the foundations. But he's not going to get to that level without playing 30+ games in the lower leagues next season. If he think he's going to go to Bristol and be anything more than a bench warmer, coming on for the last 20 mins, then he's in for a bit of a shock.
So unlike Chair (Stevenage) and Eze (Wycombe), I think we have handled it poorly but needs must and all that.
PS - Kolli is another one we are getting all excited about, I would like him (and Walsh for that matter) to go out on loan for a season. |  |
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| club on 10:33 - Jul 16 with 18407 views | Northernr |
| club on 10:30 - Jul 16 by wombat |
figure being put around last night was , wait for it £250k id have thought maybe a million max with a decent sell on clause , which lets be honest wont ever be paid , |
That's more like what I was expecting. | | | |
| club on 10:36 - Jul 16 with 18366 views | Pdog |
Used in the right system, against specific opponents he can be impactful, by impactful we're talking getting the team up there, winning corners / throw-ins, running the channel and maybe a goal here and there.
Those players do have a place in teams, as long as everyone is on board with their limitations and expectations are moderate. I could see a League 1 / lower champ player in there sure.
The thing with physical attributes is that when they are matched (thinking Diaby sheff wed at home), you need something else to fall back on (technical ability / game intelligence etc), which right now is lacking.
Wish him all the best but feel he's not a Marti type player. In a 433 or 4231 his attributes just don't compliment the team well enough. Impact sub maybe, but evidently he feels better than that though i believe he needs to learn his trade at a lower level. |  | | |
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