| New owners or investor 07:41 - Mar 21 with 9267 views | guthrieintherain |
According to Twitter that's why Kaplan was over here.
Another American not sure if it's investment or a buy out my guess would be investment. |  |
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| New owners or investor on 14:30 - Mar 25 with 1379 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New owners or investor on 23:58 - Mar 24 by max936 |
"On the Swansea fan ownership I was on the money
They wasted 6 years of all their time and £400,000 (40 years subscriptions at £10, 80 year subscriptions at £5). Of the 50,000 fans that follow Swansea city I was the only "fool" to point out the rank folly of their approach"
I'll repeat this again but in big, hopefully you'll absorb it at last. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS, as you're been told TIME and TIME AGAIN and facts are facts the TRUST were discluded from any discussions regards the sale of the Club to your yankee doodle mates, because your butties Jenkins and co clearly told them to not involve the Trust, The YANKS actually admitted that fact, WHY can't you see and acknowledge that?
Your continual denial would make my blood boil if it wasn't so laughable, you lack total credibility for 99% of what you post.
You can deny all you want, but you've a clear agenda that is devoid of any ACTUAL facts,
Todays Trust have totally and disgracefully sold its members down the Tawe and out into the Bristol Channel, they'll never get a penny off me or any of my butties pennies.
Trust was set up to create a fund that could help the club if ever the bad days arose again, it was never intended to be a fund that would put money into the club for its day today running, it was always to act as a safety net. Again you've been told this thousands of times, but because it doesn't suit your blind narrative you chose to ignore the actual facts. |
No one sells anything by sitting on the backside telling people they do not want to sell. It just the way it works. No one was going to force them to sell. Selling needs a willing buyer and a willing seller. The Trust management were unwilling and the democratically elected people representing the members.
The Trust are now subject to two very serious anti value forces. Dilution and inflation. Inflation is at 10% and hanging around. Dilution on their share holding and inflation on their cash. Its a one way ticket to nowhere.
"Trust was set up to create a fund that could help the club if ever the bad days arose again, it was never intended to be a fund that would put money into the club for its day today running, it was always to act as a safety net."
They cannot deliver on this mission statement. They missed the boat because of a mentality that you and many other have. An entitlement mentality. Swansea City shares are super high risk and not protected by the FCA.
Levien knows this. The $30m he has burned on Swansea city is not great but he looked chilled and dabber in his Swansea top the other day. He is not crying just putting in another $10m or so. Good for him. |  |
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| New owners or investor on 15:14 - Mar 25 with 1340 views | max936 |
| New owners or investor on 14:30 - Mar 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No one sells anything by sitting on the backside telling people they do not want to sell. It just the way it works. No one was going to force them to sell. Selling needs a willing buyer and a willing seller. The Trust management were unwilling and the democratically elected people representing the members.
The Trust are now subject to two very serious anti value forces. Dilution and inflation. Inflation is at 10% and hanging around. Dilution on their share holding and inflation on their cash. Its a one way ticket to nowhere.
"Trust was set up to create a fund that could help the club if ever the bad days arose again, it was never intended to be a fund that would put money into the club for its day today running, it was always to act as a safety net."
They cannot deliver on this mission statement. They missed the boat because of a mentality that you and many other have. An entitlement mentality. Swansea City shares are super high risk and not protected by the FCA.
Levien knows this. The $30m he has burned on Swansea city is not great but he looked chilled and dabber in his Swansea top the other day. He is not crying just putting in another $10m or so. Good for him. |
They cannot deliver on this mission statement. They missed the boat because of a mentality that you and many other have. An entitlement mentality. Swansea City shares are super high risk and not protected by the FCA.
They cannot deliver, because as, as been EXPLAINED to you countless times, but with your mentality you conveniently choose to ignore the plain FACTS
How in loving f do you know what my mentality is?
How do you think that I've an entitlement mentality ? another pointless point you make when you've got no idea except in your delusional mind.
You are in a tiny minority with your opinions, they are not facts, because you haven't the ability to absorb they actual facts, cause you've been brain washed, by lies. [Post edited 25 Mar 2023 15:16]
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| New owners or investor on 15:44 - Mar 25 with 1322 views | Whiterockin |
| New owners or investor on 15:14 - Mar 25 by max936 |
They cannot deliver on this mission statement. They missed the boat because of a mentality that you and many other have. An entitlement mentality. Swansea City shares are super high risk and not protected by the FCA.
They cannot deliver, because as, as been EXPLAINED to you countless times, but with your mentality you conveniently choose to ignore the plain FACTS
How in loving f do you know what my mentality is?
How do you think that I've an entitlement mentality ? another pointless point you make when you've got no idea except in your delusional mind.
You are in a tiny minority with your opinions, they are not facts, because you haven't the ability to absorb they actual facts, cause you've been brain washed, by lies. [Post edited 25 Mar 2023 15:16]
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Spot on. Never let facts get in the way of an agenda. As I have said before, someone so bitter must have been embarrassed by the trust. |  | | |
| New owners or investor on 16:50 - Mar 25 with 1285 views | Superjan |
| New owners or investor on 14:30 - Mar 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No one sells anything by sitting on the backside telling people they do not want to sell. It just the way it works. No one was going to force them to sell. Selling needs a willing buyer and a willing seller. The Trust management were unwilling and the democratically elected people representing the members.
The Trust are now subject to two very serious anti value forces. Dilution and inflation. Inflation is at 10% and hanging around. Dilution on their share holding and inflation on their cash. Its a one way ticket to nowhere.
"Trust was set up to create a fund that could help the club if ever the bad days arose again, it was never intended to be a fund that would put money into the club for its day today running, it was always to act as a safety net."
They cannot deliver on this mission statement. They missed the boat because of a mentality that you and many other have. An entitlement mentality. Swansea City shares are super high risk and not protected by the FCA.
Levien knows this. The $30m he has burned on Swansea city is not great but he looked chilled and dabber in his Swansea top the other day. He is not crying just putting in another $10m or so. Good for him. |
“ looked chilled and dabber “ in his Swansea top “ , do you have a little crush on him ? | | | |
| New owners or investor on 18:53 - Mar 25 with 1231 views | max936 |
| New owners or investor on 15:44 - Mar 25 by Whiterockin |
Spot on. Never let facts get in the way of an agenda. As I have said before, someone so bitter must have been embarrassed by the trust. |
Lets be fair it wouldn't be a difficult job to embarrass this Resoloven fella. | |
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| New owners or investor on 19:07 - Mar 25 with 1212 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New owners or investor on 18:53 - Mar 25 by max936 |
Lets be fair it wouldn't be a difficult job to embarrass this Resoloven fella. |
Brainwashed by who?. No one has commented on the alternative arguments except me. I make my own conclusions and use my own brain to assess situations.
I respect the Trust PR people who are excellent at creating loyalty to be fair. I note they paid for a PR firm listed one set of accounts. A heady mix of footy socialism and pseudo Christian rhetoric always goes down well in south Wales.
The next saviours of Swansea if it happens will not want the Trust involved. More trouble than they are worth. | |
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| New owners or investor on 19:12 - Mar 25 with 1210 views | max936 |
| New owners or investor on 19:07 - Mar 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Brainwashed by who?. No one has commented on the alternative arguments except me. I make my own conclusions and use my own brain to assess situations.
I respect the Trust PR people who are excellent at creating loyalty to be fair. I note they paid for a PR firm listed one set of accounts. A heady mix of footy socialism and pseudo Christian rhetoric always goes down well in south Wales.
The next saviours of Swansea if it happens will not want the Trust involved. More trouble than they are worth. |
"Brainwashed by who?. No one has commented on the alternative arguments except me. I make my own conclusions and use my own brain to assess situations."
Highly debatable. | |
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| New owners or investor on 19:41 - Mar 25 with 1191 views | QJumpingJack |
| New owners or investor on 19:07 - Mar 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Brainwashed by who?. No one has commented on the alternative arguments except me. I make my own conclusions and use my own brain to assess situations.
I respect the Trust PR people who are excellent at creating loyalty to be fair. I note they paid for a PR firm listed one set of accounts. A heady mix of footy socialism and pseudo Christian rhetoric always goes down well in south Wales.
The next saviours of Swansea if it happens will not want the Trust involved. More trouble than they are worth. |
did you join the Trust in the dark days of late 2001 (Petty era) ? | | | |
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| New owners or investor on 19:48 - Mar 25 with 1176 views | Whiterockin |
| New owners or investor on 19:41 - Mar 25 by QJumpingJack |
did you join the Trust in the dark days of late 2001 (Petty era) ? |
Didn't we have auto enrolment with our season tickets for a while? | | | |
| New owners or investor on 20:58 - Mar 25 with 1142 views | max936 |
| New owners or investor on 19:48 - Mar 25 by Whiterockin |
Didn't we have auto enrolment with our season tickets for a while? |
We did for one season I think maybe 2, but that would be two at most, this shower there now have tried to do it again, but these owners would never agree to it, rightly so cause this Trust board are beyond useless. | |
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| New owners or investor on 21:25 - Mar 25 with 1125 views | SullutaCreturned |
| New owners or investor on 19:12 - Mar 24 by pete |
I agree the recent times dont look good but for some one to insult people the way he did just got my goat up,people in the very early days worked their socks off and helped this club stay in bis. thats what i was getting at I joined but not renewed for the last 2 yrs to me the members were sold out that is another story
we all have opinions which in the main i respect but the guy insulted a lot of people for no reason |
He continually insults people who disagree with him. His line is though, not to call them names, not to throw personal abuse because he knows what would happen. Instead he goes down the route of claiming Swansea fans generally are dim, thick and not as clever as himself.
It's a tactic used by posters before him , he insults people without breaking the rules enough to draw the mods attention.
I stopped reading his drivel, it's so boring it makes Macyntires the wheel look good. he makes eastenders look well written.
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| New owners or investor on 21:31 - Mar 25 with 1113 views | Dr_Winston |
| New owners or investor on 21:25 - Mar 25 by SullutaCreturned |
He continually insults people who disagree with him. His line is though, not to call them names, not to throw personal abuse because he knows what would happen. Instead he goes down the route of claiming Swansea fans generally are dim, thick and not as clever as himself.
It's a tactic used by posters before him , he insults people without breaking the rules enough to draw the mods attention.
I stopped reading his drivel, it's so boring it makes Macyntires the wheel look good. he makes eastenders look well written.
Put on ignore is the best option. |
If we're being honest, he's not a million miles wrong based on your first paragraph. About Swans fans in general being thick as opposed to him being smart.
What he won't accept and never has is the simple reality that the sellouts did their utmost to f*ck the Trust over, because doing anything else would have resulted in far less money for them. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| New owners or investor on 21:34 - Mar 25 with 1098 views | Whiterockin |
| New owners or investor on 21:31 - Mar 25 by Dr_Winston |
If we're being honest, he's not a million miles wrong based on your first paragraph. About Swans fans in general being thick as opposed to him being smart.
What he won't accept and never has is the simple reality that the sellouts did their utmost to f*ck the Trust over, because doing anything else would have resulted in far less money for them. |
Nail bang on the head. | | | |
| New owners or investor on 21:46 - Mar 25 with 1081 views | Badlands |
| New owners or investor on 21:31 - Mar 25 by Dr_Winston |
If we're being honest, he's not a million miles wrong based on your first paragraph. About Swans fans in general being thick as opposed to him being smart.
What he won't accept and never has is the simple reality that the sellouts did their utmost to f*ck the Trust over, because doing anything else would have resulted in far less money for them. |
Have disagree. The Trust said they would never sell so no point involving them.
Leaving aside the profits made we had to change the management model or we’d have been bankrupted. |  |
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| New owners or investor on 21:48 - Mar 25 with 1069 views | Dr_Winston |
| New owners or investor on 21:46 - Mar 25 by Badlands |
Have disagree. The Trust said they would never sell so no point involving them.
Leaving aside the profits made we had to change the management model or we’d have been bankrupted. |
"The Trust said they would never sell"
No they didn't. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| New owners or investor on 21:48 - Mar 25 with 1068 views | Whiterockin |
| New owners or investor on 21:46 - Mar 25 by Badlands |
Have disagree. The Trust said they would never sell so no point involving them.
Leaving aside the profits made we had to change the management model or we’d have been bankrupted. |
The trust said that if an offer was made they would put it to the members. | | | |
| New owners or investor on 21:52 - Mar 25 with 1055 views | max936 |
| New owners or investor on 21:46 - Mar 25 by Badlands |
Have disagree. The Trust said they would never sell so no point involving them.
Leaving aside the profits made we had to change the management model or we’d have been bankrupted. |
Here we go again FME's they said that with regards that first lot who were chancers, they said that they would have to see what if any other offers came in as to whether any sale would have been good for SCFC, they never ever totally ruled out selling, absolutely not, they were deliberately kept in the dark until it was far to late about Kaplan and Levien's proposed deal. | |
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| New owners or investor on 21:54 - Mar 25 with 1049 views | Whiterockin |
| New owners or investor on 21:52 - Mar 25 by max936 |
Here we go again FME's they said that with regards that first lot who were chancers, they said that they would have to see what if any other offers came in as to whether any sale would have been good for SCFC, they never ever totally ruled out selling, absolutely not, they were deliberately kept in the dark until it was far to late about Kaplan and Levien's proposed deal. |
Exactly. | | | |
| New owners or investor on 22:02 - Mar 25 with 1033 views | max936 |
| New owners or investor on 21:54 - Mar 25 by Whiterockin |
Exactly. |
Its gone beyond boring now Whitey, there's no educating some, its either that or they are deliberately being obtuse. | |
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| New owners or investor on 22:13 - Mar 25 with 1011 views | Whiterockin |
| New owners or investor on 22:02 - Mar 25 by max936 |
Its gone beyond boring now Whitey, there's no educating some, its either that or they are deliberately being obtuse. |
They clearly have an agenda and everyone can see it, the more they keep on the more stupid they make themselves look. Let them crack on I say. | | | |
| New owners or investor on 22:54 - Mar 25 with 962 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| New owners or investor on 22:13 - Mar 25 by Whiterockin |
They clearly have an agenda and everyone can see it, the more they keep on the more stupid they make themselves look. Let them crack on I say. |
The Trust is now in a real bad place and only have themselves to blame.
The twin forces of dilution and inflation which did not exist in the Huw Jenkins era where inflation was 2% and there was no investment.
2015-2016 were the high point of the club and to many of us a slow steady decline was the most likely scenario. All the other owners saw it and acted to reduce their risk. . The Trust did not. It was a bad call.
The members should carry on paying £5 a year if it makes them happy. It is however irrelevant to the football club without new thinking. Its capacity for harm massively over reaches its capacity for good. | |
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| New owners or investor on 12:24 - Mar 26 with 856 views | QJumpingJack |
| New owners or investor on 22:54 - Mar 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The Trust is now in a real bad place and only have themselves to blame.
The twin forces of dilution and inflation which did not exist in the Huw Jenkins era where inflation was 2% and there was no investment.
2015-2016 were the high point of the club and to many of us a slow steady decline was the most likely scenario. All the other owners saw it and acted to reduce their risk. . The Trust did not. It was a bad call.
The members should carry on paying £5 a year if it makes them happy. It is however irrelevant to the football club without new thinking. Its capacity for harm massively over reaches its capacity for good. |
Autumn 2013 was the high point for the club. | | | |
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