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Well, the money markets didn't like the mini budget. I met Liz Truss in a hotel in Monmouth a few years ago. She said her solution to pensioner poverty would be to feed them on Pedigree Chum. Not only would this save a lot of money, it would give them shiny coats and a nice cold nose.
You do realise that both the NHS; private medical services; and elderly care systems are totally reliant on immigrants. Indeed, if it wasn't for foreigners, the UK could not have coped with the surge in demand occasioned by the pandemic.
Tomorrow filthy foreigners will likely fill positions - that will deliver you three points - at goalkeeper, left back, centre halves, holding and attacking midfielders.
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"Totally" reliant? I don't think so. Anyhow, before boring folk with the same old rhetoric note the use of the word "uncontrolled". Controlled immigration works well; identifying the right calibre of individual to fill skills in short supply. It's the uncontrolled, open gate policy that causes population to swell and puts a strain on finite resources. For every 1 working in the NHS there will be 1000 draining the benefits system. That's no good to hardworking immigrants and non-immigrants alike.
P.S. Why are you calling foreigners "filthy"? That's simply not on. Watch your mouth.
It also made a small % of people a shed load of money, it couldn't have worked out much better for those people if it had been deliberate!
Indeed. Absolutely no concrete evidence to prove that pension funds were in danger of collapsing. More rhetoric to disguise the wealthy getting wealthier.
I was in Moorfields Eye Hospital yesterday for my annual check up. Carried out by three health professionals, one from Nigeria, second from Columbia, third from India. It's sad that they couldn't be helping treat patients in their own countries, but my god the NHS in London would be lost without them.
Seconded but let's not pretend that every single foreigner that enters the country is working in the NHS. The vast majority will be claiming "asylum", entering the benefits system and applying for council accommodation thus increasing demand for limited housing stock. This doesn't help those lovely health professionals who treated you as they, like the rest of the working population, will be subsequently priced out of housing in London. This is why I'm championing 'controlled' immigration; to ensure the UK is able to reward high-calibre foreigners filling skills in short supply and avoid economic migrants looking to piggyback working folk.
Why does anyone's observations on immigration immediately cause some to instantly hit back that people are anti-foreigner and basically insinuate racism? I saw no reference to filthy foreigners yet..... I dunno
You can be in favour of controlled immigration, against illegal economic migrants and.... sit down when you read this some of you.... not a black shirt, jackboot wearing, frothing at the mouth racist.
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Because they can't handle facts that are at odds with their feelings. Rather than take the time to compose a lucid counter argument they resort to cancel culture by insinuating the same old tired myths.
P.S. The "filthy foreigner" jibe was disgraceful. You could argue that it demonstrates unconscious bias!
Because they can't handle facts that are at odds with their feelings. Rather than take the time to compose a lucid counter argument they resort to cancel culture by insinuating the same old tired myths.
P.S. The "filthy foreigner" jibe was disgraceful. You could argue that it demonstrates unconscious bias!
Sorry I meant specifically that for very foreign NHS worker there is 1,000 unemployed and claiming benifits?
It's just an overstatement, hyperbole if you will, designed to emphasise the strength of feelings of the original poster.
Anyone can see it is hyperbole.
The NHS employs approx 1.3 million people, say 50% are originally from abroad (650k) then you'd have 650k x 1,000 getting benefits. That's 650 million people. We ain't got those numbers in the U.K.
Hyperbole... nothing more, nothing less. Not worth raising your blood pressure about.
It's just an overstatement, hyperbole if you will, designed to emphasise the strength of feelings of the original poster.
Anyone can see it is hyperbole.
The NHS employs approx 1.3 million people, say 50% are originally from abroad (650k) then you'd have 650k x 1,000 getting benefits. That's 650 million people. We ain't got those numbers in the U.K.
Hyperbole... nothing more, nothing less. Not worth raising your blood pressure about.
And, Bazza, FYI it's benefits not benifits.
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So we agree, it’s bullshit.
Can we also agree that it’s dangerous bullshit to spread?
Probably more sensible to stick to facts in future on incendiary topics.
Can we also agree that it’s dangerous bullshit to spread?
Probably more sensible to stick to facts in future on incendiary topics.
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No, I can't agree with that, I'm a strong believer in freedom of speech. If the original poster had, through fear of upsetting some people, not posted that I wouldn't have had the opportunity to disagree with it.
Because they can't handle facts that are at odds with their feelings. Rather than take the time to compose a lucid counter argument they resort to cancel culture by insinuating the same old tired myths.
P.S. The "filthy foreigner" jibe was disgraceful. You could argue that it demonstrates unconscious bias!
[Post edited 2 Oct 2022 15:53]
Nobody's looking to cancel you that I can see Benny - no need to act the victim.
There's a line between making a provocative point and just talking complete bollocks - that 1 in a 1000 is complete bollocks, and tarring 999 out of every 1000 people who come here as spongers is offensive however you want to dress it up. I'll even agree with you that some percentage of people are undoubtedly on the make, but let's keep it in some kind of perspective.
This one example alone has got several stats thst refute it:
The major way this country will grow is to properly invest in new and replacement infrastructure, be that road, rail, housing, renewable and nuclear energy. Pumping more money into the highly paid financial sector through tax cuts is not the way to go. The market wants to see some tangible assets to invest in and the Truss Kwarteng plan to throw money at cutting taxes in the hope it drives growth is narrow minded. For 20 or 30 years now our governments have failed to discuss that if you want the state to support a growing population in a whole host of areas you need to spend more and that requires a more realistic debate on tax and how it can be increased fairly to both businesses and workers etc.
The major way this country will grow is to properly invest in new and replacement infrastructure, be that road, rail, housing, renewable and nuclear energy. Pumping more money into the highly paid financial sector through tax cuts is not the way to go. The market wants to see some tangible assets to invest in and the Truss Kwarteng plan to throw money at cutting taxes in the hope it drives growth is narrow minded. For 20 or 30 years now our governments have failed to discuss that if you want the state to support a growing population in a whole host of areas you need to spend more and that requires a more realistic debate on tax and how it can be increased fairly to both businesses and workers etc.
Exactly!
Some authorities are doing this locally and thriving:
This looks really dry but it a fascinating. Tangible evidence against trickle down economics.
On every single indicator, since records began, houses were cheaper both relatively and actually compared to wages anytime prior to 2022.
I’m going to skip the rest of what you said.
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So it's not that houses have got more expensive - that's just normal inflation. The problem is that wages have been getting lower and lower, and not keeping up with inflation. So we all need higher wages.
So it's not that houses have got more expensive - that's just normal inflation. The problem is that wages have been getting lower and lower, and not keeping up with inflation. So we all need higher wages.
In 1995, the median income in London was £19,000 and the median house price was £83,000, meaning that people were spending 4.4 times their income on buying a property.
So it's not that houses have got more expensive - that's just normal inflation. The problem is that wages have been getting lower and lower, and not keeping up with inflation. So we all need higher wages.
Why does anyone's observations on immigration immediately cause some to instantly hit back that people are anti-foreigner and basically insinuate racism? I saw no reference to filthy foreigners yet..... I dunno
You can be in favour of controlled immigration, against illegal economic migrants and.... sit down when you read this some of you.... not a black shirt, jackboot wearing, frothing at the mouth racist.
I don’t think it was 6%, but happy for you to evidence otherwise.
And the answer, freight. Pre-pandemic, a 40HC container cost under $2k. At the turn of 2021 into 2022, pre-CNY, it was, if I recall correctly, around $15k when all extra carrier and port surcharges were considered. We’re an island that has a big export vs import deficit (on goods), so higher fright costs will cause inflation.
In my line of work you could see inflation coming from early 2021. The major carriers posted profits up 4000% vs pre-pandemic levels.
And on top of this by the start of 2022 there were already a few commodities showing significant inflation; corrugate (cardboard) was one and that is used across almost everything for packaging. Again, if I recall correctly, metals were also moving up. I’m not an expert, but most metal products are manufactured in China who were still taking a hardline on Covid so that possible drove a shortfall in supply, which, with the return of global demand in the west, pushed the price up. More demand than supply will drive inflation.
But the war in Ukraine then ramped things up another notch. It directly impacted food prices but also exacerbated the shortage of truck drivers in Europe (already 400k short by the start of 2021, so another cause of inflation pre-war). This then impacts every type of item moved by road freight.
Remember CPI/RPI are always a way behind what’s happening in the supply chain. I can’t find it, but I’m pretty sure I said on here 6 months ago, I could see inflation reaching 12% this year, not the 9% forecast by the BOE at the time which I think was then reached in May/June.
Couple of promising signs: many commodities are stabilising, freight is reducing (8k per 40HC) and gas, whilst volatile is showing signs that Ukrainian advances and success will reduce the wholesale price. Putting aside the “will he resort to nuclear weapons” conversation, it will almost certainly be good for reducing inflation and improving standard or living on the west if Putin is defeated or is brought to the negotiating table over Ukraine. All that said, in my view, western govt’s should fast tracking green energy infrastructure builds immediately, as a matter of priority to become more self sufficient, and to support the Paris Agreement targets.
Well, some would argue that house prices are too high because credit has been artificially kept too cheap. A period of adjustment back to a historically-normal lending rate of 5% might help rectify that.
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